Dealer sold me modified car without my knowledge
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fatboy69 said:
So you knew that the car was n/a & might be slow yet you still bought it.
And then started to whinge like a bh?
Mate. You are an idiot.
And the colour of the alloys - "its not as fast as i thought it might be, and the alloys arent OEM shade therefore its my right to bring it back and make it the dealers problem".And then started to whinge like a bh?
Mate. You are an idiot.
Stunned.
Genuinely.
Soooo glad i'm out of motor trading when you're up against mentalities like this.
Latest post - quoted for posterity by others so saved me the bother - admits to drag racing and ragging it around country roads too.
Seems to me a good enough reason for the dealer to tell him to f. off altogether as he has no way of knowing what damage might have been caused.
I'm tempted to tell him that if you don't like the advice you're getting don't post on PH - or at least stop digging.
But this & the previous threads are just too funny for words.
Perhaps he ought to sue the dealer in the small claims court. I'd take a day or two off to go & watch.
Seems to me a good enough reason for the dealer to tell him to f. off altogether as he has no way of knowing what damage might have been caused.
I'm tempted to tell him that if you don't like the advice you're getting don't post on PH - or at least stop digging.
But this & the previous threads are just too funny for words.
Perhaps he ought to sue the dealer in the small claims court. I'd take a day or two off to go & watch.
Osinjak said:
Boost Junkies said:
lord trumpton said:
Why did the dealer describe the car incorrectly? Did the advert state 'un-refurbished alloys in original colour'?
You have already said you spotted the wheel colour when viewing so why didn't you kick up a fuss then?
I wanted the car then. I don't want it now. You have already said you spotted the wheel colour when viewing so why didn't you kick up a fuss then?
hornetrider said:
Based on a pattern exhaust and different colour wheels? Which insurance company is this? Have you had this confirmed? Did they quote you extra to cover the coloured wheels? What is the wheel colour now - can we have pics?
Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back
No I'm not giving pics or mentioning the colour because someone will find the car online and tell the dealer. I had such threats in the last thread which is why I got it deleted
CivBrum said:
Is the 350z even slow? 276 - 308bhp. Not slow in my book.
Nope, it's not, it is a bit on the lardy side and if this chap has only ever driven turbo cars he probably thinks it feels slow because of the linear power delivery.I owned one for a little over a year and enjoyed it well enough, it's a nice car to chuck down a b road.
I've also owned a Leon cupra, e46 M3 and now golf r estate. The 350z was not massively slower than the rest.
It sounds to me like the op is just a crap driver with a bad attitude.
Boost Junkies said:
hornetrider said:
Based on a pattern exhaust and different colour wheels? Which insurance company is this? Have you had this confirmed? Did they quote you extra to cover the coloured wheels? What is the wheel colour now - can we have pics?
Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back
No I'm not giving pics or mentioning the colour because someone will find the car online and tell the dealer. I had such threats in the last thread which is why I got it deleted
Call them and explain that you have recently bought a car and have become aware the wheels are not standard colour, and where do you stand.
Do you accept the exhaust is not a problem for insurance?
Ok no pics is fine. Is the original colour silver? What is the colour now?
Boost Junkies said:
I love how every post I make, the same old curtain twitchers and hand wringers turn up 2 seconds later to inform everyone of my previously deleted threads (deleted due to the unwarranted abuse I was getting, might I add). Ok so you might not agree with my course of action, but there's no need to call me every name under the sun.
Also it wasn't just a drag race we had, we went on country roads too. And it's not the only reason I want rid, yet everyone is clinging on to this minor detail. I already suspected that I'd find the car slow due to its N/A nature.
The thread about 'cancelling DVLA change of registered keeper' wasn't so I could force the car back into the dealers hands, it was so I could make matters easier for the dealer if the number of registered keepers stays the same.
FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident. All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described.
I'd appreciate it if all future replies didn't involve cussing me out - I can't see how you can point at my age and my apparent lack of maturity whilst dishing out playground insults yourself. And I bet some of you are drawing your pension!
Have you actually asked Directline? They won't care about the wheel colours. If the exhaust is an OEM replacement then they won't care about that either.Also it wasn't just a drag race we had, we went on country roads too. And it's not the only reason I want rid, yet everyone is clinging on to this minor detail. I already suspected that I'd find the car slow due to its N/A nature.
The thread about 'cancelling DVLA change of registered keeper' wasn't so I could force the car back into the dealers hands, it was so I could make matters easier for the dealer if the number of registered keepers stays the same.
FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident. All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described.
I'd appreciate it if all future replies didn't involve cussing me out - I can't see how you can point at my age and my apparent lack of maturity whilst dishing out playground insults yourself. And I bet some of you are drawing your pension!
Boost Junkies said:
hornetrider said:
Based on a pattern exhaust and different colour wheels? Which insurance company is this? Have you had this confirmed? Did they quote you extra to cover the coloured wheels? What is the wheel colour now - can we have pics?
Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back
No I'm not giving pics or mentioning the colour because someone will find the car online and tell the dealer. I had such threats in the last thread which is why I got it deleted
The alloy wheel colour - even if its some lurid colour - you saw the alloys before you bought the car. A simple sanity check would tell you that maybe white or bright orange alloys arent an OEM colour.
IF they're a shading difference then not one fk will be given. By anybody. Ever.
Boost Junkies said:
hornetrider said:
Based on a pattern exhaust and different colour wheels? Which insurance company is this? Have you had this confirmed? Did they quote you extra to cover the coloured wheels? What is the wheel colour now - can we have pics?
Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back
Best park it on the drive & stop driving it then.
Im not mentioning any colour - of the car or the wheels, because there's very few 350z for sale as it is. I don't know where else he advertised it and it wouldn't be hard for someone to find it and tell the dealer. I've seen how these sleuthing threads go in the past. The last thing I want is a car that I take a massive financial hit on because of pistonheads
Boost Junkies said:
Im not mentioning any colour - of the car or the wheels, because there's very few 350z for sale as it is. I don't know where else he advertised it and it wouldn't be hard for someone to find it and tell the dealer. I've seen how these sleuthing threads go in the past. The last thing I want is a car that I take a massive financial hit on because of pistonheads
So call directline and ask about the colour of the wheels. Let us know what they say.Boost Junkies said:
Im not mentioning any colour - of the car or the wheels, because there's very few 350z for sale as it is. I don't know where else he advertised it and it wouldn't be hard for someone to find it and tell the dealer. I've seen how these sleuthing threads go in the past. The last thing I want is a car that I take a massive financial hit on because of pistonheads
So now it's PH at fault? Really????Why are you so concerned about " mods" and your insurance? You had a 300 bhp Seat, presumably you were insured ok on that. Can you not use the same insurance company?
As you've been told wheel colour and pattern exhaust will make zero difference to your insurance.
I've got different wheels fitted on mine, insurance not bothered.
As you've been told wheel colour and pattern exhaust will make zero difference to your insurance.
I've got different wheels fitted on mine, insurance not bothered.
Boost Junkies said:
hornetrider said:
Based on a pattern exhaust and different colour wheels? Which insurance company is this? Have you had this confirmed? Did they quote you extra to cover the coloured wheels? What is the wheel colour now - can we have pics?
Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back
No I'm not giving pics or mentioning the colour because someone will find the car online and tell the dealer. I had such threats in the last thread which is why I got it deleted
Regarding your above points:
Call Direct Line as a fake prospective customer. 'I'm Fred Smith, I'm considering buying a 350Z. This one has different coloured wheels and a none OEM exhaust. Do you class this as a mod?'
The photo, quite easy to photoshop a numberplate out.
Take some advice, stop giving the dealer a headache, running a business is hard enough work as it is. 1 in 10 people in the world don't have access to clean water, yet you're getting your knickers in a twist because your car is a fraction slower than a mates. Get a grip!!
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