Dealer sold me modified car without my knowledge

[anonymous-user]

Boost Junkies said:

FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident. All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described.

I'd appreciate it if all future replies didn't involve cussing me out - I can't see how you can point at my age and my apparent lack of maturity whilst dishing out playground insults yourself. And I bet some of you are drawing your pension!

For future reference, It's nothing to do with your age (I am 24) it's your terrible attitude of "i have made a mistake so the dealer MUST take the car back"

I am not drawing my pension, again I'm 24 and it's sunday anyway? Pension day is tuesday

OP you need to get a grip and grow up in all honesty.

DSGbangs said:

Fact sheet:

OP test drove the car and paid a deposit for it and bought it,

OP had a traffic light gran prix style race with his mate in his 300bhp focus St, and lost.

OP started a thread on here asking for advice on how to reject the car for this reason and no other.

OP got laughed out of the thread.

OP then started another thread on how to cancel and undo the DVLA change of keeper under the premise that this would force the dealer to take the car back.

OP was told by the dealer that he could give the car back for -1K what he paid for it.

OP was laughed out of another thread.

OP is now trying to reject because the exhaust isnt aftermarket but also isn't the one that came with the car from the factory and also because the OEM wheels are a different colour.

OP is about to be laughed out of another thread.

Bookmarked.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 24th June 18:48

[StescoG66]

Boost Junkies said:

I love how every post I make, the same old curtain twitchers and hand wringers turn up 2 seconds later to inform everyone of my previously deleted threads (deleted due to the unwarranted abuse I was getting, might I add). Ok so you might not agree with my course of action, but there's no need to call me every name under the sun.

Also it wasn't just a drag race we had, we went on country roads too. And it's not the only reason I want rid, yet everyone is clinging on to this minor detail. I already suspected that I'd find the car slow due to its N/A nature.

The thread about 'cancelling DVLA change of registered keeper' wasn't so I could force the car back into the dealers hands, it was so I could make matters easier for the dealer if the number of registered keepers stays the same.

FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident. All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described.

I'd appreciate it if all future replies didn't involve cussing me out - I can't see how you can point at my age and my apparent lack of maturity whilst dishing out playground insults yourself. And I bet some of you are drawing your pension!

I despair if this is really true, I really do............ Your idea of 'modifications' are not modifications. Induction, kit, non std exhaust, remap etc etc ARE modifications. Pattern part exhaust and non original wheel colour do NOT constitute "beyond OEM spec".

Why not just admit - you have buyers regret. It happens. Just stop trying to get somebody else -who is blameless in this scenario - to shoulder the financial and moral responsibility of clearing up your ignorance/stupidity/selfishness/naivety/immorality (delete as applicable)

[valiant]

fatboy69 said:

So now it's PH at fault? Really????

You don't get it.

It simply has to be someone else's fault. In no way can this snowflake be responsible for his own decisions.

[CrouchingWayne]

OP - when racing your mate were you granny shifting, not double clutching?

[Mound Dawg]

He never had his car.


He wishes.

[MDMA .]

valiant said:

fatboy69 said:

So now it's PH at fault? Really????

You don't get it.

It simply has to be someone else's fault. In no way can this snowflake be responsible for his own decisions.

OP may have responsibility deficit disorder.

[lord trumpton]

Boost Junkies said:

lord trumpton said:

Why did the dealer describe the car incorrectly? Did the advert state 'un-refurbished alloys in original colour'?

You have already said you spotted the wheel colour when viewing so why didn't you kick up a fuss then?

I wanted the car then. I don't want it now.

Well from that answer yo are just trolling.

Bet you can't provide some pics?

[bearman68]

Been enjoying the abuse of the OP, and indeed I have joined in. It's been a fun thing to do on a wet Saturday. But it's probably getting a bit much now, and I suspect the OP has just about got the message. (Not sure mind).

If I were in this situation,I think I would enjoy the RWD lovelyness of the chassis, and enjoy the 300 bhp of V6 goodness, and learn to gel with it. It might be a bit lardy, but it's not a bad car, and it's certainly not slow. It's a hoot to drive on B roads, and OP has clearly not owned RWD (or probablt N/A) before. Maybe it just takes a bit of getting used to. (Or learning to drive).

OP, paint the wheels bright orange, and go and enjoy it.

[BarbaricAvatar]

Has this been brought to everyone's attention yet?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

He wants all his money back so he can buy an Impreza... which will also be slower than the Focus. Dealer should either offer him £1500 less than what he paid for the 350 or tell him to get lost.

As hard as it is to believe, there has been mention of the dealer showing up in one of the deleted topics which would suggest that this whole sorry debacle is true. If the dealer is watching all this unfold, then you're welcome to email me pics of the car in question for me to post for everyone else to see; your identity will remain a secret.

Edited by BarbaricAvatar on Sunday 25th June 12:53

[TooMany2cvs]

BarbaricAvatar said:

Has this been brought to everyone's attention yet?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

He wants all his money back so he can buy an Impreza...

MODIFIED!

(Beyond a pattern exhaust and a quick wheel blow-over, I wonder?)

[cowboyengineer]

Boost Junkies said:

Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:
A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back

No I'm not giving pics or mentioning the colour because someone will find the car online and tell the dealer. I had such threats in the last thread which is why I got it deleted

But you knew the wheels were not oem colour before you bought it and when you insured it. So surly you declared it at the time? If not, why didn't you?

The exhaust is not a modification.

So the only modification you need to declare to the insurance company was the one you knew about before you insured it. So how is this the garages problem?

[shakotan]

Boost Junkies said:

Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:
A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back

No I'm not giving pics or mentioning the colour because someone will find the car online and tell the dealer. I had such threats in the last thread which is why I got it deleted

You're an idiot.

[InitialDave]

Boost Junkies said:

I love how every post I make, the same old curtain twitchers and hand wringers turn up 2 seconds later to inform everyone of my previously deleted threads (deleted due to the unwarranted abuse I was getting, might I add).

It was completely warranted. Still is by the looks of it.

Boost Junkies said:

Ok so you might not agree with my course of action, but there's no need to call me every name under the sun.

I don't think we're even halfway through the list yet.

Boost Junkies said:

Also it wasn't just a drag race we had, we went on country roads too. And it's not the only reason I want rid, yet everyone is clinging on to this minor detail. I already suspected that I'd find the car slow due to its N/A nature.

Not to sound like an old man (I'm 35, and pulled some pretty stupid st when I was your age), but the roads really aren't the place for that, certainly not the kind of speeds that'd really let you find out for sure which 300bhp car is faster.

Boost Junkies said:

The thread about 'cancelling DVLA change of registered keeper' wasn't so I could force the car back into the dealers hands, it was so I could make matters easier for the dealer if the number of registered keepers stays the same.

I'm actually goign to give you the benefit of the doubt on that one, though such thoughtfulness does seem at odds with everything else.

Boost Junkies said:

FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident.

Not FACTS.

FACTS:
Aftermarket exhaust that is not a performance one is not a modification, it is a like-for-like replacement of a relatively consumable item.
Direct Line will cover you for wheels being refurbished a different colour. They will note it as a modification, but should not increase your premium as a result of this. I know this because I called them just now (1:20pm on 25/06/2017) and they told me so.

Boost Junkies said:

All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described.

Then you should have used it as a negotiating point when buying. You have zero right to pass the cost for such work onto the dealer. I can't see the dealer feeling the slighest bit of goodwill toward you, but I'm pretty sure a few gestures may be forthcoming.

Boost Junkies said:

I'd appreciate it if all future replies didn't involve cussing me out - I can't see how you can point at my age and my apparent lack of maturity whilst dishing out playground insults yourself. And I bet some of you are drawing your pension!

Because you're young, you apparently lack maturity, and if nothing else has been getting through to you, the abuse is at least somewhat cathartic.

And if I could draw my pension 30+ years early, I'd be pretty happy about it TBH.

[DaveCWK]

To hopefully add something useful to this ridiculous thread, iirc the 350z is very long geared, so if performance feel in the seat of the pants a little inadequate I'd look at getting a higher ratio rear diff. Should be possible for £1k or so.

[Davie]

Boost Junkies said:

Also it wasn't just a drag race we had, we went on country roads too. And it's not the only reason I want rid, yet everyone is clinging on to this minor detail. I already suspected that I'd find the car slow due to its N/A nature.

FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident. All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described

Dude!

Please, stop... you're getting your vagina in a twist over an OEM fitment, non-Nissan branded exhaust and a wheel colour that isn't quite standard and thus bleating on about invalid insurance yet in the next breath, openly broadcasting that not only was it a drag race but you had a bit sport down some country lanes too? Best hope nothing happens and best hope your insurers don't get wind of this and opt to cancel your policy for you.

You're absolute weapons grade if you think you have a case to stand on over the wheels being a different colour... there's a couple of situations here; first the colour difference is so subtle, nobody would give a single fook and second, if they're illuminous green or something equally obvious, are you blind?

I hope the dealer tell you to do one and never darken his door again but sadly, you seem to be so deluded that he may just give you the money to get you to ps off and annoy somebody else. This must be a wind up and we've all done up like a good un... if not then oh dear God!

[greysquirrel]

I've also just noticed that the thread title is misleading - "without my knowledge" yet admits to having known about the wheels.

[HTP99]

The OP is a "Millennial", he has been spoon fed all his life and has become used to stamping his feet if it doesn't go his way and his mummy has come running to sort things out for him, he is now an adult in an adults world and unfortunately he isn't equipped to deal with accepting responsibility for his own actions and hasn't realised that stamping ones feet and having a hissy fit in the adult world, doesn't work.

[Hoofy]

CrouchingWayne said:

OP - when racing your mate were you granny shifting, not double clutching?

Mound Dawg said:

He never had his car.


He wishes.

[catman]

OP, the exhaust is NOT modified. Tens of thousands of exhausts are replaced every year, by Kwikfit etc. Do you imagine that the owners then telephone their Insurer to tell them?

I also doubt that different colour wheels would bother your Insurer. Even if it did, you would still be covered for third party liability.

The fact that you noticed the non-standard wheels before you purchased the car would negate any allegation of mis-selling in court.

There's zero chance of the Dealer compensating you for changing the colour of the wheels. Why would you do that if you're not keeping the car?

Tim

[lord trumpton]

Yeah yeah yeah there's no car OP - all this is just a made up story from a sad, bored bloke sat in his bedroom with his undercrackers on his head.

Post some pics up of this supposed car of yours. It doesn't exist does it?