Cars that never sold well
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R36vw said:
Passat R36 roughly 160 registered in the uk approx 90 saloons and 70 estates.
Quite a rare beast, uk sales tanked as it was released in 2008 at the start of recession, combined with £500 road tax. A real sleeper
The R-Line did much better, similar looks but came with the 2.0 diesel engineQuite a rare beast, uk sales tanked as it was released in 2008 at the start of recession, combined with £500 road tax. A real sleeper
Quhet said:
bmw320ci said:
Citroen XM/Estate 878 ever registered and only 4 left by the looks of it
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
I don't believe that there's only 4 left, I saw one yesterday in central Bristolhttps://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
Regardless, there weren't many XMs about. I had an estate auto diesel version - a pool car from work. I put 80K miles on it. It had THE comfiest seats in any car I'd driven then and since.
Because the rear wheel was partly shrouded by the wheel arch, there was a lever by the gear lever that would push the car upwards about 8 inches to unshroud the wheel, should you need to change it. That feature helped me to ford a flood across the access road to Berkely nuclear power station back in the 90s.
Imagine taking a French car intentionally through fast moving water that was bonnet deep. People say French cars have dodgy electrics but this one never missed a beat. I regretted having to give it back.
ericmcn said:
swisstoni said:
Honda Legend.
Just checked and it looks like they've given up with it in the UK.
Not just the Legend which never really took off in the UK, Honda also stopped selling the Accord.Just checked and it looks like they've given up with it in the UK.
I considered a Legend before i got the Subaru (both had AWD) but the rarity of the Legend plus very expensive parts if it did go wrong did turn me away.
Finding parts was a bloody nightmare too, but I do miss it. It was more like driving a boat than a car and I kind of enjoyed that!
Edited by rossi1001 on Wednesday 28th June 23:56
Watchman said:
Quhet said:
bmw320ci said:
Citroen XM/Estate 878 ever registered and only 4 left by the looks of it
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
I don't believe that there's only 4 left, I saw one yesterday in central Bristolhttps://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
Regardless, there weren't many XMs about. I had an estate auto diesel version - a pool car from work. I put 80K miles on it. It had THE comfiest seats in any car I'd driven then and since.
Because the rear wheel was partly shrouded by the wheel arch, there was a lever by the gear lever that would push the car upwards about 8 inches to unshroud the wheel, should you need to change it. That feature helped me to ford a flood across the access road to Berkely nuclear power station back in the 90s.
Imagine taking a French car intentionally through fast moving water that was bonnet deep. People say French cars have dodgy electrics but this one never missed a beat. I regretted having to give it back.
The French and some others have given up trying to sell higher ticket items in this country because the Germans have won the hearts and tiny minds of the types who know nothing about cars but plenty about brands.
It's a shame because the roadscape and the secondhand choice is diminished as a result.
I had a decade of running a couple of French barges that were bought with about 40k miles for £4k each
It's a shame because the roadscape and the secondhand choice is diminished as a result.
I had a decade of running a couple of French barges that were bought with about 40k miles for £4k each
Tucker1 said:
Anybody mentioned the Lotus Europa S Turbo yet?
Never sold in any numbers at all, nothing to do with being a bad car, just that it didn't fit into any particular category. Not comfortable enough to be a GT yet similar money to a Cayman, but not focused enough to be an out and out track car in standard set up. Very early cars initially had some poor fuelling which along with the fact it was no Cayman, nor Exige attracted some poor press reviews.
I had one for four years and absolutely loved it. Mine was the re-launch 225 Lux Touring press car AU07HDO, I bought directly from a guy who worked for Lotus Sport. I ran it as a daily for all that time in all weathers, totally reliable, fun to live with and cost nothing to run. I've never known a car draw such positive attention wherever I took it. Even sold after 4 years for a profit, was gutted to let it go but at the time needed funds for a house build.
It's one of the missed beauties I think, especially in retrospect; at the time maligned for being neither fish nor fowl, yet a good engine with lots of top room for improvement, less flamboyant looks than the Exige and now looking at it it's probably one of the best 'pocket rockets' out there. I think there're about 100 registered in the UK and about 4-5 original SEs, values are rock solid and Hoffmans can do great things with it if you want to go down that road. A really under appreciated car imo.Never sold in any numbers at all, nothing to do with being a bad car, just that it didn't fit into any particular category. Not comfortable enough to be a GT yet similar money to a Cayman, but not focused enough to be an out and out track car in standard set up. Very early cars initially had some poor fuelling which along with the fact it was no Cayman, nor Exige attracted some poor press reviews.
I had one for four years and absolutely loved it. Mine was the re-launch 225 Lux Touring press car AU07HDO, I bought directly from a guy who worked for Lotus Sport. I ran it as a daily for all that time in all weathers, totally reliable, fun to live with and cost nothing to run. I've never known a car draw such positive attention wherever I took it. Even sold after 4 years for a profit, was gutted to let it go but at the time needed funds for a house build.
On the XM, there are actually around 300 still kicking about. what the poster did was just look at the HML page for cars just registered as "citroen XM" and that doesn;t wrap in all the models of XM, just the ones where that's all that was written on the v5
If you look here, you'll see all the different models of XM that were across two pages.
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&...
If you look here, you'll see all the different models of XM that were across two pages.
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&...
bmw320ci said:
Citroen XM/Estate 878 ever registered and only 4 left by the looks of it
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
Those numbers didn't feel right to me. I used to have an XM as a company car and as it was a choice from a list (rather than "you can have any car you want up to £x") quite a few others also had XMs. Quite separately, my brother in law also had an XM a few years later. Another chap that I worked with later ran a series of XMs as his own cars.https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
This page tells a different story as it covers various models of XM rather than just "XM". Even in 2001 there were over 13,000 on the road.
Matt-il77s said:
R36vw said:
Passat R36 roughly 160 registered in the uk approx 90 saloons and 70 estates.
snip
Quite a rare beast, uk sales tanked as it was released in 2008 at the start of recession, combined with £500 road tax. A real sleeper
The R-Line did much better, similar looks but came with the 2.0 diesel enginesnip
Quite a rare beast, uk sales tanked as it was released in 2008 at the start of recession, combined with £500 road tax. A real sleeper
snip
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_p...
Dazed and Confused said:
BMW i3/i8
i3; i see plenty about, I think alot of it is location specific though.i8; maybe not but again I see a fair few and anyway were BMW expecting to sell loads?
Like the R36 Passat mentioned earlier, were VW expecting it to be a big seller or more a low volume "halo" model?
Swole said:
370Z.
I like the Nismo one. When they get below £10k I could be persuaded as a toy car, super/turbocharge it, throw it on a diet. Would probably end up a real weapon.
Might be a while as they dont seem to go down, always amazed at how expensive they are but they are pretty rare, even 350's seem to hold their price well for anything that is half decent I like the Nismo one. When they get below £10k I could be persuaded as a toy car, super/turbocharge it, throw it on a diet. Would probably end up a real weapon.
Dazed and Confused said:
CivBrum said:
Renault Laguna Coupe, 3.5l v6. Only one on AutoTrader!
http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
£3875 for a 2009 sports coupe with 205bhp, only 73k miles, full service history, doesn't seem a bad deal.
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