Cars that never sold well
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The Chrysler Delta.
Actually nothing to do with Chrysler, just wore Chrysler badges to enable it to be sold in the UK. It started life in Europe as a Lancia Delta, based on the underpinnings of the Fiat Bravo. Hardly sold in the UK which I think was a shame, in total I think there are no more than 500 of them in the UK. A few more in Italy wearing Lancia badges though.
Another one from the FIAT group at the same time, the Chrysler Ypsilon.
Again, the only association this car has with Chrysler is the badge. It also started off in life as a Lancia, which was based on Fiat 500 underpinnings. Had several of these as rental cars while living in Spain, in my opinion the Ypsilon is infact a far better car than the 500. The Fiat is cute and fashionable which is what sells them in the UK on PCP to 20-something women, the Ypsilon benefits from being a 5-door but still the same small package.
Actually nothing to do with Chrysler, just wore Chrysler badges to enable it to be sold in the UK. It started life in Europe as a Lancia Delta, based on the underpinnings of the Fiat Bravo. Hardly sold in the UK which I think was a shame, in total I think there are no more than 500 of them in the UK. A few more in Italy wearing Lancia badges though.
Another one from the FIAT group at the same time, the Chrysler Ypsilon.
Again, the only association this car has with Chrysler is the badge. It also started off in life as a Lancia, which was based on Fiat 500 underpinnings. Had several of these as rental cars while living in Spain, in my opinion the Ypsilon is infact a far better car than the 500. The Fiat is cute and fashionable which is what sells them in the UK on PCP to 20-something women, the Ypsilon benefits from being a 5-door but still the same small package.
Muddle238 said:
The Chrysler Delta.
Again, the only association this car has with Chrysler is the badge. It also started off in life as a Lancia, which was based on Fiat 500 underpinnings. Had several of these as rental cars while living in Spain, in my opinion the Ypsilon is infact a far better car than the 500. The Fiat is cute and fashionable which is what sells them in the UK on PCP to 20-something women, the Ypsilon benefits from being a 5-door but still the same small package.
I had the Ypsilon as a hire car. Hated the drive and feel of it, in my opinion it was worse than the Fiat 500.Again, the only association this car has with Chrysler is the badge. It also started off in life as a Lancia, which was based on Fiat 500 underpinnings. Had several of these as rental cars while living in Spain, in my opinion the Ypsilon is infact a far better car than the 500. The Fiat is cute and fashionable which is what sells them in the UK on PCP to 20-something women, the Ypsilon benefits from being a 5-door but still the same small package.
Watchman said:
Quhet said:
bmw320ci said:
Citroen XM/Estate 878 ever registered and only 4 left by the looks of it
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
I don't believe that there's only 4 left, I saw one yesterday in central Bristolhttps://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/citroen_xm
Regardless, there weren't many XMs about. I had an estate auto diesel version - a pool car from work. I put 80K miles on it. It had THE comfiest seats in any car I'd driven then and since.
Because the rear wheel was partly shrouded by the wheel arch, there was a lever by the gear lever that would push the car upwards about 8 inches to unshroud the wheel, should you need to change it. That feature helped me to ford a flood across the access road to Berkely nuclear power station back in the 90s.
Imagine taking a French car intentionally through fast moving water that was bonnet deep. People say French cars have dodgy electrics but this one never missed a beat. I regretted having to give it back.
Zedboy said:
Saw an immaculate Citroen C6 wafting down the M1 into town this morning. First sighting for many months. Rare and comfy +++!
Beautiful cars.Apparently the original sales target was 20,000 units per year when the car was launched in 2005, but they hadn't even achieved that figure by 2011, the year before it was canned. An epic failure by any standards. But what a car!
Dazed and Confused said:
HTP99 said:
i3; i see plenty about, I think alot of it is location specific though.
i8; maybe not but again I see a fair few and anyway were BMW expecting to sell loads?
We do have a BMW dealer about a mile down the road, I doubt I see an i3 more than one every couple of weeks.i8; maybe not but again I see a fair few and anyway were BMW expecting to sell loads?
MK3 VW Scirocco, hence the reason why they are no longer creating a new model as originally planned.
It's a shame as i really loved mine and they still look great, in my eyes. Used examples are even cheaper than a Golf GTI but, on the other hand, they will also not be able to hold their value in the same way.
It's a shame as i really loved mine and they still look great, in my eyes. Used examples are even cheaper than a Golf GTI but, on the other hand, they will also not be able to hold their value in the same way.
culpz said:
MK3 VW Scirocco, hence the reason why they are no longer creating a new model as originally planned.
It's a shame as i really loved mine and they still look great, in my eyes. Used examples are even cheaper than a Golf GTI but, on the other hand, they will also not be able to hold their value in the same way.
They sold well enough not to be in this thread.It's a shame as i really loved mine and they still look great, in my eyes. Used examples are even cheaper than a Golf GTI but, on the other hand, they will also not be able to hold their value in the same way.
Frimley111R said:
culpz said:
MK3 VW Scirocco, hence the reason why they are no longer creating a new model as originally planned.
It's a shame as i really loved mine and they still look great, in my eyes. Used examples are even cheaper than a Golf GTI but, on the other hand, they will also not be able to hold their value in the same way.
They sold well enough not to be in this thread.It's a shame as i really loved mine and they still look great, in my eyes. Used examples are even cheaper than a Golf GTI but, on the other hand, they will also not be able to hold their value in the same way.
And i quote; "Both the tin top Beetle and the Scirocco are poor sellers for VW". So, you can add the Beetle to this little list too
In all fairness, it does say it "might" be binned off an not "will". But, in the case of the Scirocco, the new model should have already been revealed by now for release this year or next. No-one's heard a peep.
culpz said:
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-vw-scirocco-m...
And i quote; "Both the tin top Beetle and the Scirocco are poor sellers for VW". So, you can add the Beetle to this little list too
In all fairness, it does say it "might" be binned off an not "will". But, in the case of the Scirocco, the new model should have already been revealed by now for release this year or next. No-one's heard a peep.
Talking about the R specifically, perhaps a pain for some was that the Scirocco R was FWD only so many would go for the Golf R.And i quote; "Both the tin top Beetle and the Scirocco are poor sellers for VW". So, you can add the Beetle to this little list too
In all fairness, it does say it "might" be binned off an not "will". But, in the case of the Scirocco, the new model should have already been revealed by now for release this year or next. No-one's heard a peep.
This said, I don't find people loving the 2010-2012 (MK6?) Golf R much either. I've seen three on the road, ever.
The Renault Laguna 3 on the whole seems a lot rarer than the mk2.
I think mainly because I own one, I've never see many Twingo mk2 in the 4 and half years I've had mine. And its really rare to see another GT or RS, Let alone a Renault Wind.
A fella at work has an old Honda Accord coupe, never seen many of them about.
Citroen C Crosser and the 4007 (PSA version of the Mitsubishi Outlander) . I also saw a two Proton Gen2's this morning....
I think mainly because I own one, I've never see many Twingo mk2 in the 4 and half years I've had mine. And its really rare to see another GT or RS, Let alone a Renault Wind.
A fella at work has an old Honda Accord coupe, never seen many of them about.
Citroen C Crosser and the 4007 (PSA version of the Mitsubishi Outlander) . I also saw a two Proton Gen2's this morning....
Frimley111R said:
sinbaddio said:
Vauxhall Cavalier Cabriolet - seen one, when they were current models
I don't remember that as proper production/sold in the main showrooms model?Think majority were built in Germany by Hammond and Thiede plus another couple of companies had a go at making one.
Harry Enfield owned one for quite a while - I've seen about 3 different ones this year alone - quite a few survive and they built around 500. They were the most expensive Cavalier you could buy at that time - about £500 more than a 5-door CDi
They did a convertible based on the Mk1 Cavalier Coupé/Manta as well but that was converted by Crayford
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