Cars that never sold well

[Ninja59]

Ultrafunkula said:

MG ZT V8, don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh...

Lucky enough to have been in one of these (my friend owns one), a strange car in all respects - possibly the worst thing with it is the ride is more like riding on bricks, and sadly the engine is only SOHC, very late on they were working on supercharged versions.... It was a nice "car" to be in though overall and very enjoyable! Although by today's standards it is totally underpowered and poor in all respects.

Pre facelift cars are rare, facelift ones are more "common".

Of all the MG Rover 75/ZT range the most rare is the 75 V8....I never knew one existed!

[Alex_225]

CS Garth said:

I recall seeing a new one for sale in the depths of the financial crisis of late 2008/early 2009 for £16,500......

An absolute bargain when you consider that they've actually crept up in value and sell for around the £20k mark!

I'm pretty sure they sold less than 200 of them in the UK.

[hondansx]

Podie said:

JohnStitch said:

mhurley said:

I'll start
MK 6 Golf R Convertible

Don't think i have ever seen one

I was parked next to one at work the other day - Didn't realise they once did a convertible version and wondered if the owner had just modded it with a bunch of 'R' bits. Looked quite smart actually, and I don't normally like convertible Golfs, they just don't look right to me.

Must admit I didn't realise they had made them.

[typical PH comment]
Clearly not avilable on the cheap lease deals
[/typical PH comment]

The Mk6 Golf R never benefited from the amazing lease deals. When I had one, i saw maybe 2 others on the road. With the optional Recaros and other bits it was the wrong side of £35k.

The convertible was released right at the end of the lifecycle and was an additional £7,000! It was, of course, more expensive, but criminally was FWD rather than the Haldex 4WD. This was because the additional bracing meant they couldn't fit in the extra driveshafts!

[chris285]

Second gen seat cordoba

[anonymous-user]

Cough - Aston Martin Cygnet

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/aston-martin/cygnet/9...

According to DVLA just 141 Cygnets were registered in the UK and many of those will have been demonstrators of one sort or another.

Prices started at £30,995 – more than double the price of an almost identical Toyota iQ.

[Accelebrate]

2011 onwards MGs

[anonymous-user]

Frog-faced, whale-arsed Ford Scorpio.

I only saw a handful during the years when they were current. Thankfully.

[Whitean3]

Can't believe no-one has mentioned the Edsel Ford (I must be getting old!)



"The Edsel was an automobile marque that was planned, developed, and manufactured by the Ford Motor Company for model years 1958-60. With the Edsel, Ford had expected to make significant inroads into the market share of both General Motors and Chrysler and close the gap between itself and GM in the domestic American automotive market.

Ford invested heavily in a yearlong teaser campaign leading consumers to believe that the Edsel was the car of the future- an expectation it failed to meet. After it was unveiled to the public, it was considered to be unattractive, overpriced, and overhyped. The Edsel never gained popularity with contemporary American car buyers and sold poorly.

Total Edsel sales were approximately 116,000, less than half the company's projected break-even point. The company lost $350 million on the venture. Only 118,287 Edsels were built. By US auto industry standards, these production figures were dismal, particularly when spread across a run of three model years.

The very name "Edsel" became a popular symbol for a commercial failure."

[ukaskew]

Alex_225 said:

An absolute bargain when you consider that they've actually crept up in value and sell for around the £20k mark!

Lightly used Mk1 Clio V6s were selling for £8-10k around the same time, I had a chance to buy a Mars Red one. Could have had a stable of appreciating assets if you hoovered up a few niche Renaultsports around that time (probably a 182 Trophy as well for good measure)

[LordHaveMurci]

Vauxhall Signum.

City Rover or whatever it was called.

Audi A2 never sold very well did it?

[CRA1G]

AndStilliRise said:

BMW Z8, but worth a fortune now.

Damm right...! I paid less than £50k for a 7,000 mile 18 month old one back in the day....!

[mhurley]

LordHaveMurci said:

Vauxhall Signum.

Good shout. Forgotten all about that one

[Richard-390a0]

alorotom said:

Fiat Tipo (new one - doesn't seem to be very popular)

Really?. I seem to see loads of the estate version in the Southampton area compared to the hatchback. Probably 20 to 1 in favour of the estate which I think looks quite nice from the outside, no idea what the interiour is like though.

[Stuart70]

Ninja59 said:

Ultrafunkula said:

MG ZT V8, don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh...

Lucky enough to have been in one of these (my friend owns one), a strange car in all respects - possibly the worst thing with it is the ride is more like riding on bricks, and sadly the engine is only SOHC, very late on they were working on supercharged versions.... It was a nice "car" to be in though overall and very enjoyable! Although by today's standards it is totally underpowered and poor in all respects.

Pre facelift cars are rare, facelift ones are more "common".

Of all the MG Rover 75/ZT range the most rare is the 75 V8....I never knew one existed!

Ninja59 I don't understand your post. Ultrafunkula comments on ZT V8 - you reply talking about said car and then your final line is saying you didn't know they existed? Wtf?

Can I have some of what you are on?

[anothernameitist]

Lonsdale - Austrilian Mitsibushi

Sao - South African Mazda

Asia Roksta - Jeep

Mahindra - Jeep. Our local Ford dealership had one as a recover truck, they needed another recovery truck to collect the Mahindra

Dacia - first time around Renaul 12s

Proton - whole range since introduction
Peruda As above

[Jimmy Recard]

Stuart70 said:

Ninja59 I don't understand your post. Ultrafunkula comments on ZT V8 - you reply talking about said car and then your final line is saying you didn't know they existed? Wtf?

Can I have some of what you are on?

Really?

He says he was fully aware of the MG ZT with a V8 (the MG ZT260), but only later became aware of the Rover 75 V8.

I really don't believe you can't work that out

[havoc]

Sold +/- 450 in the UK over a 16 year run, or a little over 40 a year. vs >600 a year for the 993-model 911...which in standard (non-GT) form wasn't as good a car.

(The facelift NSX hardly sold at all...<100 over 4 years)




Stuart 70 - there's a difference between the MG ZT-260 and the Rover 75 V8. The first is rare and he's ridden in it, the second is a unicorn.

[patmahe]

Opel/Vauxhall Tigra, the folding hardtop one that came after the Puma rival. Saw one the other day and was just thinking I cannot remember the last time I saw one of them.

Someone will be along soon to tell me there were actually eleventy-million of them sold.

[deggles]

Series 1 Lotus Exige - ~600 made but they weren't really a limited edition, they just couldn't shift them at the time!

[Ninja59]

havoc said:

Sold +/- 450 in the UK over a 16 year run, or a little over 40 a year. vs >600 a year for the 993-model 911...which in standard (non-GT) form wasn't as good a car.

(The facelift NSX hardly sold at all...<100 over 4 years)

Stuart 70 - there's a difference between the MG ZT-260 and the Rover 75 V8. The first is rare and he's ridden in it, the second is a unicorn.

Hard one with the NSX, I always think the pre facelift is very "dated" now the facelift did bring it more up to date, but as said they are very rare. I do wonder how the new one will do.

In regards to comments about ZT 260 v 75 V8 totally correct as I did not know until my friend said about the numbers produced of ZT260 v 75 V8 (he is heavily into the MG Rover & Volvo world (also has an 850R)).