RE: Jaguar XE SV Project 8 - official!
Discussion
Looks alright, but the car is not a really good looking design like the F type. I'm sure they will sell them but any investor is going to be waiting a long long time to make any money on these in my opinion.
600hp in a average looking saloon is not going to set the world on fire, this has been done before by BMW with the M3 CSL and Mecedes with the Black series.
In BMW's case it was the last of the the legendary N/A sixes and in AMG's case a hot version of arguably Mercedes best M3 rivals with one of AMG's best ever v8s under the hood.
Its nice to see Jag at least competing again these days butits hard to work up much enthusiasm for this
600hp in a average looking saloon is not going to set the world on fire, this has been done before by BMW with the M3 CSL and Mecedes with the Black series.
In BMW's case it was the last of the the legendary N/A sixes and in AMG's case a hot version of arguably Mercedes best M3 rivals with one of AMG's best ever v8s under the hood.
Its nice to see Jag at least competing again these days butits hard to work up much enthusiasm for this
Jag would do a lot better with 30 somethings like myself if they actually offered a manual gearbox mated to their petrol engines...
I've always liked jags, perhaps due to the XJ220 being released when I was a kid and having a toy of the beautiful XJS. My son loves to look at the F-types in the Jag dealership we sometimes pass in the car. An XE should make a great car for my family but I want petrol and a manual, to get that and RWD you're pretty much forced towards ze Germans, which is probably why so many BMWs are driven by my contemporaries at work. Jag does have an image problem (IMO) but hopefully silly cars like this one go some way to improving the situation.
I've always liked jags, perhaps due to the XJ220 being released when I was a kid and having a toy of the beautiful XJS. My son loves to look at the F-types in the Jag dealership we sometimes pass in the car. An XE should make a great car for my family but I want petrol and a manual, to get that and RWD you're pretty much forced towards ze Germans, which is probably why so many BMWs are driven by my contemporaries at work. Jag does have an image problem (IMO) but hopefully silly cars like this one go some way to improving the situation.
Maldini35 said:
M4SER said:
Why? Because a 200mph, 600bhp XE is going to be huge fun, simple as that. Who wouldn't enjoy terrorising GT3s at a track day in a 4-door Jaguar XE? Yes, it's expensive but then a highly bespoke car, produced in tiny numbers is always going to be expensive.
Summing up, car enthusiasts have never had it so good, there's lots of truly great performance cars out there right now, Jaguar launching a limited run of 300 Project8 is simply offering (wealthy) enthusiasts another new and exciting option.
This makes a lot of senseSumming up, car enthusiasts have never had it so good, there's lots of truly great performance cars out there right now, Jaguar launching a limited run of 300 Project8 is simply offering (wealthy) enthusiasts another new and exciting option.
Maldini35][quote. M4SER said:
Summing up, car enthusiasts have never had it so good, there's lots of truly great performance cars out there right now, Jaguar launching a limited run of 300 Project8 is simply offering (wealthy) enthusiasts another new and exciting option.
This makes a lot of senseAs others have said - this is definitely NOT a car for enthusiasts - it’s a toy for gold wrapped Veyron owning super rich to pose about Harrods in.
TBH, it wouldn’t matter if it weighed 2500kg and handled like a tank - for it target audience that’s totally irrelevant. As long as it very expensive and very noisy that enough.
Others said this will lead to a more affordable proper R version of the XE. Personally doubt it. The R version would need to have flared arches and the V8 engine but I can’t see how if the Project 8 costs 150k what they could take out [without ruining the car] and sell it for say 75k tops - as that what it needs to cost to complete with the M3 or C63 or RS4
Ali_T said:
High Roller said:
What's the betting that the next SVO project is a Frankenstein F-Pace? Oh lordy!
Local Jag dealer says that's a definite! Very strange, but then I thought the Project 7 was very strange. That seemed to be all about compromise - impractical yet also heavy, luxury seats yet no roof, hardcore engine with automatic gearbox... This looks like more of the same, wrapped in a ridiculous bodykit and with a price that is, frankly, laughable. They need to fix what's wrong with their standard cars rather than messing about like this. I guess this is the thinking that gave us the XFRS, a car launched in idiot blue with dodgy wheels and huge wing as though all the tat might distract from the fact it was technically mid-pack at best.
Sorry, sorry. I'm calm now. I love Jag and it just frustrates me to see them turn the phrase "Speak softly and carry a big stick" on its head so often.
Sorry, sorry. I'm calm now. I love Jag and it just frustrates me to see them turn the phrase "Speak softly and carry a big stick" on its head so often.
MustardCutter said:
Jag would do a lot better with 30 somethings like myself if they actually offered a manual gearbox mated to their petrol engines...
My XE has the diesel ingenium 2.0 with a manual gearbox and that works for me. Given ZF supply the same manual and auto boxes to Jaguar and the German competition. I agree that a XE petrol manual would be a nice option, I did have manuals in my V6 2.5 X type sports AWD, often slated by press and people who never drove them, totally different animal to the diesels, but 2.5 V6 did 150,000 miles with no problem, I had the last laugh 
MrTappets said:
Very strange, but then I thought the Project 7 was very strange. That seemed to be all about compromise - impractical yet also heavy, luxury seats yet no roof, hardcore engine with automatic gearbox... This looks like more of the same, wrapped in a ridiculous bodykit and with a price that is, frankly, laughable. They need to fix what's wrong with their standard cars rather than messing about like this. I guess this is the thinking that gave us the XFRS, a car launched in idiot blue with dodgy wheels and huge wing as though all the tat might distract from the fact it was technically mid-pack at best.
Sorry, sorry. I'm calm now. I love Jag and it just frustrates me to see them turn the phrase "Speak softly and carry a big stick" on its head so often.
Sorry, sorry. I'm calm now. I love Jag and it just frustrates me to see them turn the phrase "Speak softly and carry a big stick" on its head so often.
This is what I meant to say
I'm sure it will be fun to drive but it could have been so much better.
Domf said:
MustardCutter said:
Jag would do a lot better with 30 somethings like myself if they actually offered a manual gearbox mated to their petrol engines...
My XE has the diesel ingenium 2.0 with a manual gearbox and that works for me. Given ZF supply the same manual and auto boxes to Jaguar and the German competition. I agree that a XE petrol manual would be a nice option, I did have manuals in my V6 2.5 X type sports AWD, often slated by press and people who never drove them, totally different animal to the diesels, but 2.5 V6 did 150,000 miles with no problem, I had the last laugh Often predicted sales of manual versions doesn't warrant the possible tear up in design. How Aston offered a manual on a very similar V8, I don't know.
t!M4SER said:
Why? Because a 200mph, 600bhp XE is going to be huge fun, simple as that. Who wouldn't enjoy terrorising GT3s at a track day in a 4-door Jaguar XE? Yes, it's expensive but then a highly bespoke car, produced in tiny numbers is always going to be expensive. But on the plus side these limited run cars often have their own distinctive character and a production run of 300, on a global scale, is tiny. That's why cars like this often tend to keep their value so well.
no one is saying it would not be funThe issue is with your own money would this be the 1st choice to spend £150k on a car ?
For many it has to be way down the list of cars to buy for £150k
Ed Straker said:
We are not all in 2017 "Rovers" driving at perma-40 and getting through 100g of Werthers Original per hour.
Some of us are still sufficiently compos mentis to know we should be despising you and your over-priced Beetle.
I don't own a beetle. and even if the joke was funny I don't own a 911 either !Some of us are still sufficiently compos mentis to know we should be despising you and your over-priced Beetle.
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