RE: Dodge Challenger Hellcat: You Know You Want To

RE: Dodge Challenger Hellcat: You Know You Want To

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WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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aeropilot said:
If you bother to read the guys posts, he states just exactly what the aero and chassis is on this 'Capri' and as such I have no reason to doubt what he's saying either... biggrin
glanced through his profile and his last 12 months of posts but couldn't find a thread, it's not like 'I didn't bother' to look at something staring me in the face

aeropilot

34,680 posts

228 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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WCZ said:
aeropilot said:
If you bother to read the guys posts, he states just exactly what the aero and chassis is on this 'Capri' and as such I have no reason to doubt what he's saying either... biggrin
glanced through his profile and his last 12 months of posts but couldn't find a thread, it's not like 'I didn't bother' to look at something staring me in the face
He explains in posts in THIS thread........

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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aeropilot said:
He explains in posts in THIS thread........
"The spaceframed 900kg twin turbocharged cosworth engined xpack bodied capri"

was wondering about power output, gearbox, actual specs, aero etc

just genuinely curious

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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fesuvious said:
FFS,

This is a hellcat thread.

Currently 450bhp, capable of 600bbhp.
8-900kilos.

F&@king fast.

Currently has some braking issues.

Hey, did I mention I own a hellcat?
so way down on bhp/ton vs the konigsegg (mentioning brakes it holds the 0-300-0 record atm)

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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WCZ said:
fesuvious said:
FFS,

This is a hellcat thread.

Currently 450bhp, capable of 600bbhp.
8-900kilos.

F&@king fast.

Currently has some braking issues.

Hey, did I mention I own a hellcat?
so way down on bhp/ton vs the konigsegg (mentioning brakes it holds the 0-300-0 record atm)
mmmm Koenigsegg 900bhp/1400kg = 600bhp/tonne

Capri at 800kg/450bhp = 563bhp/tonne

....and the lighter weight would likely make it faster around a track (see Colin Chapman)

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Ares said:
mmmm Koenigsegg 900bhp/1400kg = 600bhp/tonne

Capri at 800kg/450bhp = 563bhp/tonne

....and the lighter weight would likely make it faster around a track (see Colin Chapman)
depends on the Koenigsegg

Agera R - 1,140bhp / 1435kg - 794bhp/tonne
Agera RS - 1,160bhp / 1395kg - 831bhp/tonne
Agera 1:1 - 1,360bhp / 1360kg - 1000bhp/tonne

I don't believe that just being road legal is a barrier to keeping up with a modified Capri, I'm sure the Radical SR8 LM, Mclaren P1 GTR, Caparo T1 etc would keep up with various race cars.


WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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fesuvious said:
Yawn
Yeah, you're the one making claims that your ford capri is as fast as a 1000bhp/tonne car.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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WCZ said:
Ares said:
mmmm Koenigsegg 900bhp/1400kg = 600bhp/tonne

Capri at 800kg/450bhp = 563bhp/tonne

....and the lighter weight would likely make it faster around a track (see Colin Chapman)
depends on the Koenigsegg

Agera R - 1,140bhp / 1435kg - 794bhp/tonne
Agera RS - 1,160bhp / 1395kg - 831bhp/tonne
Agera 1:1 - 1,360bhp / 1360kg - 1000bhp/tonne

I don't believe that just being road legal is a barrier to keeping up with a modified Capri, I'm sure the Radical SR8 LM, Mclaren P1 GTR, Caparo T1 etc would keep up with various race cars.
It's not just the road legal nature, its the whole package.

My 150bhp Caterham, road legal, just, would spank several supercars on track 10 years ago.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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WCZ said:
fesuvious said:
Yawn
Yeah, you're the one making claims that your ford capri is as fast as a 1000bhp/tonne car.
I don't think he did? Did he say it would beat all Koeniggsegs?

J4CKO

41,637 posts

201 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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How fast do some need to go, been driving a 2.0 diesel BMW all week and its perfectly adequate, got back in my CLS and it feels ridiculous after that, so a Hellcat must be a similar kind of level of improvement over that, if not more, and its considered slow ?

I think there is a big gulf between forum chat and reality, I cant imagine anyone going in something that fast and then thinking it is slow, unless they race Top Fuellers or something.

Then you remember its for the road, with speed limits, people, road furniture etc, its almost like the available power and performance is in a different scale to the surroundings, I gave mine a boot on the way in and was at 80 mph in next to no time, over every speed limit in the country.

Really, what I needed for that journey is that 100 odd bhp seven type thing and to stop worrying about performance figures, power outputs and tech.


Guvernator

13,164 posts

166 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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Some people seem to be missing the point of these cars. They aren't made to be the quickest on track, the most sophisticated or be able to put all their power down cleanly. They hark back to the days where people just put the biggest, baddest engine they could find in a cheap car so that you could outdrag your mates on the nearest piece of straight tarmac or do doughnuts\powerslides to impress your mates and or ladies at the local drive-in while making a sound that would wake the dead and for that I absolutely love them.

Also only on Pistonheads could an article about a retro American muscle car turn into a pissing contest about a track prepped Capri and a Koenigsegg! rolleyes