RE: Audi RS5: Review
Discussion
So Audi are positioning this as a GT?
What a cop out. So basically they can't compete with BMW and Merc in this segment so decided it sits elsewhere. However with a crap ride it won't make a very comfortable GT!
As for £80k (let's say you can get one for £71k) it's faintly ridiculous; the options should mostly be standard (the M4 comes with a far better spec out the box).
I also can't believe they still insist on the backwards sequential shift. I test drove a last gen RS5 and this along with the weight and lack of agility was one of the reasons I went for the V8 M3. Bonkers and completely counter intuitive pushing forward to change up; I prefer to use the stick rather than paddles when pressing on. Must be habit I guess.
I'm really not sure who will buy these but can't see why you'd want one over a C63 or M3. When the Alfa QV coupe comes out they'll be in even more bother.
Would be interesting to see a group test to see how the performance compares with the above 2. My gut says it'll be blown out the water.
What a cop out. So basically they can't compete with BMW and Merc in this segment so decided it sits elsewhere. However with a crap ride it won't make a very comfortable GT!
As for £80k (let's say you can get one for £71k) it's faintly ridiculous; the options should mostly be standard (the M4 comes with a far better spec out the box).
I also can't believe they still insist on the backwards sequential shift. I test drove a last gen RS5 and this along with the weight and lack of agility was one of the reasons I went for the V8 M3. Bonkers and completely counter intuitive pushing forward to change up; I prefer to use the stick rather than paddles when pressing on. Must be habit I guess.
I'm really not sure who will buy these but can't see why you'd want one over a C63 or M3. When the Alfa QV coupe comes out they'll be in even more bother.
Would be interesting to see a group test to see how the performance compares with the above 2. My gut says it'll be blown out the water.
kers call it 
).Ares said:
Go and drive them. They are not GTs.
Call them sports saloons, call the sports cars, whatever, but they are not GTs, especially not the M.
I don't think "GT" and "sports saloon" are contradictory, I suppose it's a matter of semantics though. I haven't driven the current M4, but I've driven most of the previous versions (M3s, obviously) and I'd certainly call them GTs with the exception of the E30. Call them sports saloons, call the sports cars, whatever, but they are not GTs, especially not the M.
Admittedly I have far less experience of AMGs.
ETA: If anything I'd say the M4 is likely to make a better GT than this because BMW M-cars tend to ride significantly better than Audi's RS models.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 6th July 09:41
PunterCam said:
Smaller wheels don't magically change ride quality, they just take the edge off
Nothing 'magic' about it. Ride quality is affected by every single squidgy, bouncy piece of material between the road and your arse. Tyres (and the air in them), springs, dampers, suspension mounts and even seats. If you reduce the compliance in any area you'll get a harder ride, requiring you to make compensating changes in other areas. Wheels, tyres and pressures play a huge part in determining ride quality.davidcharles said:
macky17 said:
Audi have managed to squeeze every single thing that's wrong with modern cars into a single vehicle.
Impressive.
like what?...lovely interior?... hugely fast?...full of tech ? (its 2017, times have changed)... not sure why its hated so muchImpressive.
Unsurprised by the review and indeed many of the comments in this thread.
I'm an Audi fanboy - make no mistake - but this all seems a little odd. The RS5 is perhaps the flagship conventional sports car for the brand, and it was a surprise to learn that the V8 was being dropped for a V6 for sure. That means from the current crop of serious sports coupes:
M4: Inline 6, twin turbo
C63: V8, twin turbo
RS5: V6, twin turbo
Each of the German halo brands have gone a different route with their vehicles. Only one of these is a significant deviation from the 'norm'.
Perhaps a nod to the first few RS models, which come from a time when 5/6 cylinders were optimal? Increasingly we're seeing manufacturers sticking hefty price tags on cars that appear on paper to perform well with less, but in practice provide little raw enjoyment - aside from exhaust farts and techgasms within the cockpit.
Quite fussy in the looks department from the front and rear, and I personally think those rotor style wheels have run their course now, having featured on pretty much every Audi from the lowly A1 to the mighty RS6 for what feels like a decade.
Still, they'll sell like hot cakes no doubt - or at least, lease in significant numbers.
I'm an Audi fanboy - make no mistake - but this all seems a little odd. The RS5 is perhaps the flagship conventional sports car for the brand, and it was a surprise to learn that the V8 was being dropped for a V6 for sure. That means from the current crop of serious sports coupes:
M4: Inline 6, twin turbo
C63: V8, twin turbo
RS5: V6, twin turbo
Each of the German halo brands have gone a different route with their vehicles. Only one of these is a significant deviation from the 'norm'.
Perhaps a nod to the first few RS models, which come from a time when 5/6 cylinders were optimal? Increasingly we're seeing manufacturers sticking hefty price tags on cars that appear on paper to perform well with less, but in practice provide little raw enjoyment - aside from exhaust farts and techgasms within the cockpit.
Quite fussy in the looks department from the front and rear, and I personally think those rotor style wheels have run their course now, having featured on pretty much every Audi from the lowly A1 to the mighty RS6 for what feels like a decade.
Still, they'll sell like hot cakes no doubt - or at least, lease in significant numbers.
Edited by Resolutionary on Thursday 6th July 10:42
Edited by Resolutionary on Thursday 6th July 10:58
davidcharles said:
macky17 said:
Audi have managed to squeeze every single thing that's wrong with modern cars into a single vehicle.
Impressive.
like what?...lovely interior?... hugely fast?...full of tech ? (its 2017, times have changed)... not sure why its hated so muchImpressive.
But those are the things people get a bee in their bonnet about on here. I certainly don't love it but I can see appeal in it. I would certainly struggle to justify the £15k over an S5 unless the engine is loads better.
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