RE: Audi RS5: Review
Discussion
Chestrockwell said:
Surely if a manufacturer takes a car off sale because of the new WTLP whatever means none of the previous ones are road worthy emissions wise.
There are so many reasons why they could have stopped production because of WLTP emissions. (Reasoning not specific to RS5)1. They have a backlog of testing to do and therefore you pull the least popular products. Remember that pretty much all A4s and A5s were out of production for this exact issue. 2.0 TFSI Arteons are still out of production because of this.
2. They are struggling to get it to meet the NEW emissions standards. I.e. it complied before the 1st of September last year, it doesn't now. And for whatever reason they are having bother getting it to comply.
3. They have pulled it because it doesn't make sense to rehomologate it for a short time, such as the outgoing (gone) M3.
4. There is a backlog of engineering work to do. I know the high powered 2.0 TFSI in Golf R, S3, Leon Cupra have lost the row of injectors on the intake manifold but have gained a particulate filter in the exhaust. This doesn't happen by itself. When deadlines are brought forward by a year (even if it was VWs fault) massive companies can't always react quickly when plans are already in motion. But interestingly enough the Cupra was available before the S3 before the Golf R so testing and hologation work was probably also a factor.
I really don't understand why you think the previous cars would be not road worthy. Rules change and they make the cars to suit the current rules. In the same manner as how new cars (at ECWVTA level at least) need tyre pressure monitoring systems, daytime running lights and AEBS as standard. Technology being driven by the legislation.
mhurley said:
I aren't sure I'd want a 6 year old Aston to do what my S5 does for me (and what an RS5 would do for me if I had one of them). 15000 miles a year at circa 30mpg, in warranty.Weekend car, damn right I'd want the Aston but everyday probably not, especially if I had to rely on it.
jakesmith said:
These reviews of Audis are all quite similar... fast, understeer, poor ride, expensive, not as good as x
I bet if I drove it it would be bloody awesome though
Audis seem to fare better on the long term tests where you are living with the car, having decent power and traction without necessarily wanting the hoon factor rather than the normal tests where they cane them for a day and then judge the car based on how much fun they had.I bet if I drove it it would be bloody awesome though
Edited by jakesmith on Friday 29th March 00:29
British Beef said:
Looks like the old one, a little faster, a little lighter bla bla bla
You have to be a seriously uninspired human to flush £80 large on one of these.
The Alfa Guilia looks a better prospect on all fronts IMO, if it proves reliable!! (Very small IF)
I had a Giulia Quadrifoglio for 18 months. Total nightmare. Serious faults that the dealer couldn't fix. Independent engineer's report commissioned to convince Alfa that the car was defective. Design faults in early cars (water from windscreen drainage falls directly onto engine ECU, door seals don't seal, constant rattle from doors, warning lights going off for no reason, headlights full of condensation). Interior plastics and in car audio totally crap and a very thinly spread dealer network (1 dealer between Lands End and Bristol!) make the ownership experience substandard. I now have a 2020 RS5 Coupe Sport Edition and is superior in every single way. Their is enormous prejudice against fast Audi s but the truth is that for 99% of the time, they are brilliant. Pushed to the limit on a track they might not reward as a rear drive car will but in real world, all weather driving, the RS5 is superb. On top of that, it looks fabulous.You have to be a seriously uninspired human to flush £80 large on one of these.
The Alfa Guilia looks a better prospect on all fronts IMO, if it proves reliable!! (Very small IF)
TomScrut said:
Audis seem to fare better on the long term tests where you are living with the car, having decent power and traction without necessarily wanting the hoon factor rather than the normal tests where they cane them for a day and then judge the car based on how much fun they had.
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