RE: Alpina B5 Touring: Review

RE: Alpina B5 Touring: Review

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ambuletz

10,754 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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DoubleD said:
ambuletz said:
inb4 someone says 'the perfect sleeper!'
No one has said that because it isnt a sleeper



I guess you'd have to see the sleeper thread(s) on here to know that.

Glasgowrob

3,246 posts

122 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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utterly stunning, if only it had another couple of hundred bhp frown

ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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2 GKC said:
Frankel thinks it's not shouting about its performance? Bloody awful front splitter with Alpina splashed across it, 4 exhaust pipes, stripes down the sides and a stupid amount of badging on the back? Pretty shouty I'd say.

That said, I like it!
I kind of understand what you mean but I like that look & it's a much better effort the BMW's:




numtumfutunch

4,731 posts

139 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Rick101 said:
Love it. Amazing work.

Got to keep the decals. It's classic Alpina.
No decals and debadged for me

Those who know will spot the wheels and Alpina paint

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Lovely stuff. Really like the most recent interpretation of the Alpina 20 spoke alloy. cool

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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numtumfutunch said:
Rick101 said:
Love it. Amazing work.

Got to keep the decals. It's classic Alpina.
No decals and debadged for me

Those who know will spot the wheels and Alpina paint
Yeah the front is classic Alpina.....cheap glued on bits of plastic. Shame really.

E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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diehardbenzfan said:
E65Ross said:
By your logic, who would buy a Huracan?

Someone who would spend this much would probably be the someone who wants something very very fast whilst being more practical and comfortable than a Huracan?
Well my logic suggests one is a Lamborghini and the other is an SE looking 5 series estate with a splitter and 4 exhausts that will plummet in value, yes the Lamborghini is twice the price but my point is why would someone spend 90 grand on an ordinary car with power that can never be accessed when they can spend half on a 530d that will have more than enough performance for every day use. Each to their own of course.
So you're saying it doesn't make sense to spend £90k on a car with this much power when you can get one much cheaper, yet you justify buying a lambo at twice the price with similar power (and is faster)??

Are you therefore saying one should only buy the Huracan purely on looks, and not how it drives, because you can't use the power? In that case, if we all agreed with you, then no-one would ever buy an M5, E63 AMG, RS6 etc etc...?

I see where you're coming from, but you're totally missing the point of these types of cars.

ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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steveb8189 said:
93k is a lot of money but I wonder how Alpina make any money with the substantial changes required to end up with this beast. Which 5 series do they start with? I wonder if they get them from BMW without engines or whether they have to remove and resell.
Alpina get the bare shells from BMW then add their bespoke parts to the cars, I think they only make 1100-1700 cars per year so they're a rare sight.

The reason you'll buy one of these over an M5 that costs similar money will be because you like the ride better & the interiors feel like another step up too.

I can only speak from experience of my D3 & M3 that the D3 felt better/more enjoyable to drive & somehow more special inside although I think the M3 seats just edged it in terms of better side support but everywhere else when driving normally the D3 was better when you got to 9/10ths then the M3 was clearly better & more composed but for the other 358 days of the year it swung back the other way. The B3 must be a cracker because if they can make a diesel feel this good the petrol must be a blinder.

I changed the wheels on mine there are another two around my neck of the woods one estate & another saloon, so I didn't want to be the same (& they're hard to clean) so they're now sitting in the loft, apart from the above I've not changed a thing which is rare for me & I can't fault the car.

This B5 seems like it's the car to have over the M5 depending on what you want from your car of course, at the end of the day it's nice to have the choice. beer





ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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diehardbenzfan said:
Well my logic suggests one is a Lamborghini and the other is an SE looking 5 series estate with a splitter and 4 exhausts that will plummet in value, yes the Lamborghini is twice the price but my point is why would someone spend 90 grand on an ordinary car with power that can never be accessed when they can spend half on a 530d that will have more than enough performance for every day use. Each to their own of course.
E63/RS6/M5 all depreciate heavily the Alpina's actually firm up in price (but they'll will depreciate) whilst the more available products drop steadily.

British Beef

2,220 posts

166 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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JohnGoodridge said:
FN2TypeR said:
Mr E said:
I'd probably have one of these over an E63.

No badges and standard wheels please.
I couldn't agree more
Alpina Classic 20" (as in the pics) are the only wheel option. Think they're gorgeous personally. Alpina would be my choice in this segment also.

The convergence in this sector of the market is sad though.

10 years ago there was so much more difference. I could have chosen from:
a N/A RWD 5.0 V10 BMW M5,
a T/T 4WD 5.2 V10 Audi RS6, or
a N/A RWD 6.2 V8 Mercedes Benz E63.

Nowadays I can choose from one of three T/T 4.0-ish V8 4WD wagons.

Although I suppose I shouldn't complain too much. In another 10 years they'll all be electric.
I agree 100%

A couple you missed...

Jaguar XFR estate (5lt v8 supercharged)

I do hope Alfa make their Gulia in estate format, currently no plans I believe.

Escort3500

11,919 posts

146 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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AC43 said:
A very powerful but non-shouty road car developed on the road for the road.

A perfect recipe.
^^^^. This. Spoiled only by the dreadful stripes, spoiler badging and those rims. Might have been OK in the Eighties but not now.

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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diehardbenzfan said:
Well my logic suggests one is a Lamborghini and the other is an SE looking 5 series estate with a splitter and 4 exhausts that will plummet in value, yes the Lamborghini is twice the price but my point is why would someone spend 90 grand on an ordinary car with power that can never be accessed when they can spend half on a 530d that will have more than enough performance for every day use. Each to their own of course.
because a 530d isn't that fast and you can have much more performance than one before it gets too much for the road imo

Leins

9,476 posts

149 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Over £90k?

rofl


No wonder Alpinas are rare.
While I take the point, I suspect this is cheaper in real terms than its E34 equivalent was over 20 years ago. Also rare too though

griffdude

1,826 posts

249 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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alexpa said:
Love it! Alpina should also do an 'Audi RS4 Avant Plus' competitor; 500bhp, 4wd, 3 series touring, etc ;-)
Have a look that the B3 Touring.

ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Leins said:
Alucidnation said:
Over £90k?

rofl


No wonder Alpinas are rare.
While I take the point, I suspect this is cheaper in real terms than its E34 equivalent was over 20 years ago. Also rare too though
I'm pretty sure the M5 is 90k ish

Burnham

3,668 posts

260 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
I changed the wheels on mine....
Oh, what wheels do you have fitted?..perfect opportunity for a pic!

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
I'm pretty sure the M5 is 90k ish
More like 70k ish

ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Stance SC 6's no photo the cars filthy ours is black but the wheels are the same finish as below.


ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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DoubleD said:
More like 70k ish
I'm pretty sure it'll turn out to be 80k before options

Burnham

3,668 posts

260 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
Stance SC 6's
Very nice...a little easier to clean than the classics too laugh