Nuisance bikers

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Manners2001

144 posts

84 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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GravelMachineGun said:
How do you solve a problem of nuisance bikers racing up and down the street?
I have lots of lycra warriors pedalling past my house as well - real pain in the hole! Puts me right off my breakfast when I go out to get the paper......

In actual answer to your question - if you genuinely think they are racing, rather than just progressing swiftly in too low a gear, then your best bet is to record some dates/times/details/potentially footage and then go to see the OB.

Pete Eroleum

278 posts

188 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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GravelMachineGun said:
How do you solve a problem of nuisance bikers racing up and down the street?
Install a burger/kebab/bacon sandwich van exactly half way along its length.

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Manners2001 said:
rather than just progressing swiftly in too low a gear, then your best bet is to record some dates/times/details/potentially footage and then go to see the OB.
Thats a good point. I have had the usual comments "going a bit there", "in a rush?" because they think im going fast when i'm not really. I can literally creep along at 20mph, and manage to draw attention just because the bike is doing 3000 rpm instead of a cars 1500rpm.

langtounlad

781 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Is your exhaust a legal version?
If you are drawing attention at 3,000rpm I suspect it's not legal. soapbox
If it's not legal and drawing attention at 3,000rpm then you are probably very anti-social when really 'making progress'.
To be clear, I have no problems with bikes being enjoyed and always endeavour to assist their progress when driving.
I do resent being disturbed in my back garden by a bike that's several streets away making a racket and probably driving well above a safe speed for a built-up area (judging by the amount of revs being used). headacheirked

Manners2001

144 posts

84 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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BuzzBravado said:
Thats a good point. I have had the usual comments "going a bit there", "in a rush?" because they think im going fast when i'm not really. I can literally creep along at 20mph, and manage to draw attention just because the bike is doing 3000 rpm instead of a cars 1500rpm.
Only slightly less annoying than the yoots on hairdryers doing 32 mph flat out.....! smash

Not being a biker (and for transparency very occasionally having bikes go past my house making a bit of a din and being a bit irritated), could you change to a more suitable gear to bring your revs down or does the gearing necessitate this? I'd like to know if my upset is warranted! smile

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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It is an aftermarket exhaust, which isn't that loud, but loud enough for drivers to hear me coming, and that is vital. It has saved my bacon more than once.

langtounlad

781 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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If it's 'loud enough to hear you coming' I'm confident that it's illegal.
You mention aftermarket but not whether it complies to the noise laws.
If you are so loud that a car ahead of you can hear you, just think how loud that is to those behind you.
In my opinion that is unjustified and I hope that you don't live near me. rolleyes

RizzoTheRat

25,174 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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langtounlad said:
If it's 'loud enough to hear you coming' I'm confident that it's illegal.
You might be surprised. Limit is 74 dB(A) for cars, and 80 dB(A) for bikes. dB is a log scale so 6dB increase is something like 50% increase in volume.

langtounlad

781 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I accept that point.
However for a rear facing exhaust to be so loud that it can be heard inside a car that is some distance in front of the bike I'm confident that is going to be exceeding the legal decibel limit.

RizzoTheRat

25,174 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Valid point.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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BuzzBravado said:
It has saved my bacon more than once¹
¹citation required.

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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You want evidence that noise gives drivers a heads up I'm coming? It's fairly obvious isn't it, and it helps again the "didn't see you mate" lot. All I can say is I have no doubt in my mind it has reduced the amount of times I have had close calls since I'm the one that can compare before and after. It's probably not a popular opinion on a car forum but drivers are far from observant in the grand scheme. My driving discipline changed massively once I also taken to two wheels. You should give it a bash before you get on the high horse.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I'll admit it, I don't even know what a motorbike is but I do plan to find out and ride one some day.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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BuzzBravado said:
You want evidence that noise gives drivers a heads up I'm coming? It's fairly obvious isn't it, and it helps again the "didn't see you mate" lot. All I can say is I have no doubt in my mind it has reduced the amount of times I have had close calls since I'm the one that can compare before and after. It's probably not a popular opinion on a car forum but drivers are far from observant in the grand scheme. My driving discipline changed massively once I also taken to two wheels. You should give it a bash before you get on the high horse.
How much did the noisy can reduce your insurance premium by?





langtounlad

781 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
BuzzBravado said:
You want evidence that noise gives drivers a heads up I'm coming? It's fairly obvious isn't it, and it helps again the "didn't see you mate" lot. All I can say is I have no doubt in my mind it has reduced the amount of times I have had close calls since I'm the one that can compare before and after. It's probably not a popular opinion on a car forum but drivers are far from observant in the grand scheme. My driving discipline changed massively once I also taken to two wheels. You should give it a bash before you get on the high horse.
How much did the noisy can reduce your insurance premium by?
Is it a fair generalisation that a large percentage of bikers are running illegal exhaust systems and not properly declaring the modification to their insurers?
If so I don't understand why the Police don't take more interest in this matter.
Such selfish behaviour ensures that the general public are intolerant of bikers.

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
How much did the noisy can reduce your insurance premium by?
I don't have a before and after since it was on when i started the policy. I highly doubt it would have reduced it though. Clearly a few of you have an issue with the idea that sound can alert you to my coming near you. Most accidents occur when a driver pulls out of a junction in front of a biker. The usual reason is "i didnt see you", which is just the way it is, we are only human. Being able to hear me gives another one of your senses a chance to be alerted. It isn't rocket science and is widely regarded amongst bikers as a smart move. I'm comparing close calls before and after, and for me the difference is clear. I don't see why you all have an issue with that.

Also you seem to be assuming i have some 100000db straight through asbo can, when it is nothing of the sort. If you were in your car you would hear me about 30yds away, and it is a rumble not a scream.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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BuzzBravado said:
Also you seem to be assuming i have some 100000db straight through asbo can, when it is nothing of the sort. If you were in your car you would hear me about 30yds away, and it is a rumble not a scream.
What car would I have to be in on the scale of 2CV to S-Class to hear you at 30 yards?

At what distance would I hear you if you had a standard can on?


Cold

15,249 posts

91 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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A healthy set of ears forms no part of the Driving Test. Relying on an illegal exhaust as some sort of pseudo placebo for warning other drivers appears to be a little misguided.

MDUBZ

861 posts

101 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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I declared mine (homologated) with the nominal hp increase, no change. tbh I bought the bike purely on the sound of the stock exhaust... then put termi's on it and removed the db killers, it is quite loud but i love it ears

I quite like sitting in the garden and hearing the sound of a bike giving it some, we only get a few on nice days: they start giving it some from the national speed limit which is ~500m away... just me? getmecoat

it would probably get on my tits if it was the same people all the time outside the front of my house though.. words would need to be had.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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MDUBZ said:
I declared mine (homologated) with the nominal hp increase, no change. tbh I bought the bike purely on the sound of the stock exhaust... then put termi's on it and removed the db killers, it is quite loud but i love it ears
But doesn't it bother you at all that you're more than likely annoying a lot of people?