RE: Austin Maestro van: Would You Really Want To

RE: Austin Maestro van: Would You Really Want To

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SimonTheSailor

12,606 posts

228 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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People who are saying that they would have it - would you hand over 8K though ?!

SpudLink

5,804 posts

192 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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There are many things I love about the ‘80s. This is not one of them.

On the subject of old Leyland vans:
In about 2001 I was living in Welwyn Garden City. The council decided to demolish a block of old garages. One of them contained an ‘S’ reg (1977) Sherpa Van, in mint condition. I can’t imagine why someone though it was worth preserving. I don’t know what happened to it after that.

kambites

67,578 posts

221 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I learned to drive in a Maestro, albeit a hatch not a van. Much better car than people would have you believe (which admittedly isn't saying much).

Turbobanana

6,277 posts

201 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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SpudLink said:
There are many things I love about the ‘80s. This is not one of them.

On the subject of old Leyland vans:
In about 2001 I was living in Welwyn Garden City. The council decided to demolish a block of old garages. One of them contained an ‘S’ reg (1977) Sherpa Van, in mint condition. I can’t imagine why someone though it was worth preserving. I don’t know what happened to it after that.
On a similar note, I heard of a Peugeot dealer who had held the franchise for Simca and Talbot before it all morphed in Peugeot. Anyway, they decided to extend their premises which involved demolishing a couple of sheds, one of which contained a new, unregistered Simca 1100 Pick Up complete with pre-delivery wax and protective seat covers still on.

E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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sgtBerbatov said:
My uncle had two of these, he brought one over to Ireland with him and it was his work horse for many years.

Personally I'd have one. But then again I find the styles of the cars from the late 80's/90's to be the pinnacle of car design. They were all uniquely different to a fault. Whereas today, you'd be mistaken for thinking that Vauxhall Astra that just passed you was actually a Renault Megane.
Whilst you may find the 80s/90s the pinnacle of car design, I cannot believe anyone would think anything like this is anything like the pinnacle of design....!?

firebird350

323 posts

180 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I don't have any experience of the Maestro van but at the end of the 1970's I spent a summer working for Sunblest (Allied Bakeries) which involved spending a fair bit of time behind the wheel of several Marina and Escort (Mk 1) vans - yes, in those bright, full-blown Sunblest liveries of old.

As a rally fan back then I obviously preferred the looks of the Escort because the 1970's had been the rally era of the Boreham works RS Escorts but, truth be told, the Marina was actually the better drive of the two from a fun point of view. When empty, the Marina was sooooo light at the rear that all you had to do on a wet road was drop down into second gear at around 40 MPH and the rear axle would instantly lock up. I used to love doing that in the run-up to a junction or a set of traffic lights just to see how far it would slide. Mind you, I was only 22 at the time.

You could also change up and down through the gearbox without ever resorting to the clutch once you'd used it to get off the start line. Don't know why that impressed me so much but it did! I had some great drives that summer.

Also, the 1.3 litre Marina's engine revved far higher and more eagerly than the Escort's 1.1 litre lump which always felt strangled by comparison. With that cavernous load deck to amplify the noise (when empty), rubber floor mats and no sound deadening you could really kid yourself you were in a top-end screamer in the Marina because it made quite a decent sound actually and, when empty, it weighed next to nothing and didn't go badly at all. Great car to hone a few driving skills in.

silvermog

61 posts

139 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Maestro and Maestro vans were exported as CKD for assembly in the Middle-East/Eastern Europe amongst other places, consequently their simplicity was a virtue to someone. At the end of the production I seem to recall a significant number of the kits couldn't be exported due to sanctions (I recall) and languished in storage.

They were bought en-mass by a dealer (Parkway Motors) and for many years assembled in a roadside garage outside Ledbury and sold on as "new" vehicles. This was years after new sales in the UK dried up … so wouldn't be surprised if some of these pop-up now and again in surprisingly good condition given they were more recent and much better assembled than normal.

court

1,487 posts

216 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Those late perkins turbo diesels were pretty pokey IIRC, compared well with the TD Escort vans at the time.

jeremyh1

1,358 posts

127 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I used to drive them they were reliable but that is as far as you go

They are in reality awful and not worth this money !

Nors

1,291 posts

155 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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"No apparent faults"

Apart from the price, looks, colour, it's a Maestro van and you'll look a right tt!

SDB660

568 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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firebird350 said:
.....but, truth be told, the Marina was actually the better drive of the two from a fun point of view. When empty, the Marina was sooooo light at the rear that all you had to do on a wet road was drop down into second gear at around 40 MPH and the rear axle would instantly lock up. I used to love doing that in the run-up to a junction or a set of traffic lights just to see how far it would slide. Mind you, I was only 22 at the time.

You could also change up and down through the gearbox without ever resorting to the clutch once you'd used it to get off the start line. Don't know why that impressed me so much but it did! I had some great drives that summer.

Also, the 1.3 litre Marina's engine revved far higher and more eagerly than the Escort's 1.1 litre lump which always felt strangled by comparison. With that cavernous load deck to amplify the noise (when empty), rubber floor mats and no sound deadening you could really kid yourself you were in a top-end screamer in the Marina because it made quite a decent sound actually and, when empty, it weighed next to nothing and didn't go badly at all. Great car to hone a few driving skills in.
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing and will keep the conversation going with a friend at local who is Ford Escort mad. Marina beats Escort. Who would have thought it?

Q Car

138 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Wasn't that gorgeous Lancia Montecarlo from a couple of days ago the same costs as this? Wasn't it £4k to buy and £4k to restore? Hmmm, which one to go for??......

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I can barely believe that it even exists. My dad had a Maestro as a company car from brand new and it started falling to pieces scarcely over a month after he got it. By definition this thing has to be in much, much better condition now than when it left the factory but to be honest I cannot comprehend any sane person handing over more than bangernomic money for it...

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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SimonTheSailor said:
People who are saying that they would have it - would you hand over 8K though ?!
£5,000 maybe, but not £8,000.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I have a soft spot for 80's Austin stuff like the Metro and Maestro. Not an 8k soft spot though

Jonny_

4,128 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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While I wouldn't pay £8k for it, I'm kind of glad that there are people who would.

Impressive that it's survived this long in such good condition, given that these were pretty much universally unloved when new.

alpha channel

1,387 posts

162 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I love the fact that this still exists and while I have the odd affliction to the tune that I quite like a good chunk of BL stuff, this isn't one of those loves )I have an MG Maestro though, still wouldn't pay £8k for one though). Now a properly sorted MG Montego...

MuscleSaloon

1,552 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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chazwozza said:
Buy it. Stick big V8 in. Win.

Zad

12,703 posts

236 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I can think of many vehicles that are more deserving of a big V8 or a Cosworth drivetrain.

8K... FFS

njw1

2,071 posts

111 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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firebird350 said:
I don't have any experience of the Maestro van but at the end of the 1970's I spent a summer working for Sunblest (Allied Bakeries) which involved spending a fair bit of time behind the wheel of several Marina and Escort (Mk 1) vans - yes, in those bright, full-blown Sunblest liveries of old.

As a rally fan back then I obviously preferred the looks of the Escort because the 1970's had been the rally era of the Boreham works RS Escorts but, truth be told, the Marina was actually the better drive of the two from a fun point of view. When empty, the Marina was sooooo light at the rear that all you had to do on a wet road was drop down into second gear at around 40 MPH and the rear axle would instantly lock up. I used to love doing that in the run-up to a junction or a set of traffic lights just to see how far it would slide. Mind you, I was only 22 at the time.

You could also change up and down through the gearbox without ever resorting to the clutch once you'd used it to get off the start line. Don't know why that impressed me so much but it did! I had some great drives that summer.

Also, the 1.3 litre Marina's engine revved far higher and more eagerly than the Escort's 1.1 litre lump which always felt strangled by comparison. With that cavernous load deck to amplify the noise (when empty), rubber floor mats and no sound deadening you could really kid yourself you were in a top-end screamer in the Marina because it made quite a decent sound actually and, when empty, it weighed next to nothing and didn't go badly at all. Great car to hone a few driving skills in.


I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Maestro van basically just a Marina van with a Maestro front end (and fwd)?