RE: Range Rover Velar: Review

RE: Range Rover Velar: Review

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Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Cold said:
I can't take the opinions of someone who says the X5 rides well seriously. I just can't, sorry.
I just said it rode better, IMO/IME, than the previous generation Disco.

I can't take someone seriously who says someone's experience based opinion is wrong because they don't agree with it. wink

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Granfondo said:
Ares said:
I didn't actually, I referred to Range Rovers, not the Evoque. And I edited the missing word in my reply 2 mins before your reply to add 'not', as in I've not driven and Evoque.
Doesn't take Einstein or the Beatles manager to work out that a car twice the price just might be better especially when it's from the same manufacturer! wink

Still doesn't make the DS noisy or have a bad ride.

You don't have to agree but you're still wrong! wink
It's comparative. Period. Thats what I've said all along.

Compared to a Phantom, a Range Rover is noisy and has a bad ride.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Ares said:
Granfondo said:
Ares said:
I didn't actually, I referred to Range Rovers, not the Evoque. And I edited the missing word in my reply 2 mins before your reply to add 'not', as in I've not driven and Evoque.
Doesn't take Einstein or the Beatles manager to work out that a car twice the price just might be better especially when it's from the same manufacturer! wink

Still doesn't make the DS noisy or have a bad ride.

You don't have to agree but you're still wrong! wink
It's comparative. Period. Thats what I've said all along.

Compared to a Phantom, a Range Rover is noisy and has a bad ride.
Totally ridiculous comparisons but it does still not mean the DS is noisy or has a bad ride due to the fact in all the road tests I have read the ride is what scores it most points over its rivals!
I am not saying the ride is as good as a RR or Roller you don't have to agree but you're still wrong!

p1stonhead

25,584 posts

168 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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How bling is this! Bloody hell.


Jim AK

4,029 posts

125 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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p1stonhead said:
How bling is this! Bloody hell.

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And some think the DS ride is bad!!

Truly awful.......... Bruv! biglaugh

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Granfondo said:
Ares said:
Granfondo said:
Ares said:
I didn't actually, I referred to Range Rovers, not the Evoque. And I edited the missing word in my reply 2 mins before your reply to add 'not', as in I've not driven and Evoque.
Doesn't take Einstein or the Beatles manager to work out that a car twice the price just might be better especially when it's from the same manufacturer! wink

Still doesn't make the DS noisy or have a bad ride.

You don't have to agree but you're still wrong! wink
It's comparative. Period. Thats what I've said all along.

Compared to a Phantom, a Range Rover is noisy and has a bad ride.
Totally ridiculous comparisons but it does still not mean the DS is noisy or has a bad ride due to the fact in all the road tests I have read the ride is what scores it most points over its rivals!
I am not saying the ride is as good as a RR or Roller you don't have to agree but you're still wrong!
Everything is a comparison.

FFRR to Phantom is no bigger leap than DS to FFRR.


I'm not wrong. It's my opinion, based on experience. My ex had a Freelander in the late 90s. That rode better and was quite than the DS I drove. Partly as it was a petrol rather than diesel, but every DS I've seen has been diesel, and a noisy diesel that that.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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p1stonhead said:
How bling is this! Bloody hell.

I don't think it's bling. It's not a Kahn/Onyx. I think its easily the best looking car in the LR/RR lineup.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Ares said:
Everything is a comparison.

FFRR to Phantom is no bigger leap than DS to FFRR.


I'm not wrong. It's my opinion, based on experience. My ex had a Freelander in the late 90s. That rode better and was quite than the DS I drove. Partly as it was a petrol rather than diesel, but every DS I've seen has been diesel, and a noisy diesel that that.
Wrong again!
The new 2.0d is not noisy in comparison to the BMW unit in the 2.0d X3/X5!
You don't have to agree but your still wrong. wink

Shiv_P

2,751 posts

106 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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WTF is FFRR?

corozin

2,680 posts

272 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Shiv_P said:
WTF is FFRR?
Full fat Range Rover. i.e. the big one.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Ares said:
p1stonhead said:
How bling is this! Bloody hell.

I don't think it's bling. It's not a Kahn/Onyx. I think its easily the best looking car in the LR/RR lineup.
"Not bling". rofl

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Granfondo said:
Ares said:
Everything is a comparison.

FFRR to Phantom is no bigger leap than DS to FFRR.


I'm not wrong. It's my opinion, based on experience. My ex had a Freelander in the late 90s. That rode better and was quite than the DS I drove. Partly as it was a petrol rather than diesel, but every DS I've seen has been diesel, and a noisy diesel that that.
Wrong again!
The new 2.0d is not noisy in comparison to the BMW unit in the 2.0d X3/X5!
You don't have to agree but your still wrong. wink
<facepalm>

and it's you're, not your. If you are going act supercilious and claim to know my opinions better than I do, at least use the right word wink

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Granfondo said:
Ares said:
p1stonhead said:
How bling is this! Bloody hell.

I don't think it's bling. It's not a Kahn/Onyx. I think its easily the best looking car in the LR/RR lineup.
"Not bling". rofl
No. I think it's a fabulous design for an SUV, not ostentatious or pretentious, just clean lines.

Zad

12,705 posts

237 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Whatever people think of their taste in design, they do seem to have the knack of making very profitable cars for what seems to be a rapidly expanding market, even here in the UK. Of course, what happens when the private finance deal market implodes is a different matter.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Ares said:
Granfondo said:
Ares said:
p1stonhead said:
How bling is this! Bloody hell.

I don't think it's bling. It's not a Kahn/Onyx. I think its easily the best looking car in the LR/RR lineup.
"Not bling". rofl
No. I think it's a fabulous design for an SUV, not ostentatious or pretentious, just clean lines.
Style over substance!

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Granfondo said:
Ares said:
Granfondo said:
Ares said:
p1stonhead said:
How bling is this! Bloody hell.

I don't think it's bling. It's not a Kahn/Onyx. I think its easily the best looking car in the LR/RR lineup.
"Not bling". rofl
No. I think it's a fabulous design for an SUV, not ostentatious or pretentious, just clean lines.
Style over substance!
I'd say for it's market, substance is near 100%. If style exceeds that then well done JLR?

Are you saying it should look worse to become more acceptable? Curious approach.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Ares said:
I'd say for it's market, substance is near 100%. If style exceeds that then well done JLR?

Are you saying it should look worse to become more acceptable? Curious approach.
It's just a big Evoque or a re-skinned F- Pace which will suit the type of buyer that will be renting these!
No it shouldn't look worse because that's the "style" element it's the "substance" that's the problem with its hardware!
Edited by Granfondo on Wednesday 2nd August 21:38


Edited by Granfondo on Wednesday 2nd August 21:41

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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Granfondo said:
Ares said:
I'd say for it's market, substance is near 100%. If style exceeds that then well done JLR?

Are you saying it should look worse to become more acceptable? Curious approach.
It's just a big Evoque or a re-skinned F- Pace which will suit the type of buyer that will be renting these!
No it shouldn't look worse because that's the "style" element it's the "substance" that's the problem with its hardware!
Edited by Granfondo on Wednesday 2nd August 21:38


Edited by Granfondo on Wednesday 2nd August 21:41
Lease, not rent. Unless you have a chip on your shoulder about finance ;-)

And what substance is missing for it's target market?

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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I have now owned my D300 First Edition Velar for a week - bloody fantastic car and I have come out of a Range Rover Sport and have driven a FFRR many times when my RRS was at the dealership for warranty or service work. The D300 Velar on air suspension is the pick of the bunch. In First Edition trim the interior fit and finish is magnificent and makes the FFRR Autobiography look boring! The car drives very well especially in Dynamic mode it hugs corners very well.

The infotainment system is super quick and is a major wow factor of the car with those dual screens.

This is the one to have - currently the best RR available IMHO of course.

Those calling it a bigger Evoque or another F-Pace need to seriously go drive one and you will see it is far from it! I own an Evoque too and they cannot be compared!



Edited by PrancingHorses on Thursday 3rd August 10:43

Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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PrancingHorses said:
I have now owned my D300 First Edition Velar for a week - bloody fantastic car and I have come out of a Range Rover Sport and have driven a FFRR many times when my RRS was at the dealership for warranty or service work. The D300 Velar on air suspension is the pick of the bunch. In First Edition trim the interior fit and finish is magnificent and makes the FFRR Autobiography look boring! The car drives very well especially in Dynamic mode it hugs corners very well.

The infotainment system is super quick and is a major wow factor of the car with those dual screens.

This is the one to have - currently the best RR available IMHO of course.

Those calling it a bigger Evoque or another F-Pace need to seriously go drive one and you will see it is far from it! I own an Evoque too and they cannot be compared!



Edited by PrancingHorses on Thursday 3rd August 10:43
I'am only winding Arse up!
The interior is fantastic and it has showroom appeal in spades and your right about it being the pick of the range unless you need the towing capacity or proper 4x4 capability which most people don't!
The only gripe is that it's very pricey for what it is IMO but that won't stop it selling like hot cakes!