Driver Location Signs - Whats the point?

Driver Location Signs - Whats the point?

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Gafferjim

1,335 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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CraigyMc said:
Is there an app that can dispatch the services to wherever the phone is, bypassing the call handlers altogether?
HAHAHA! You've obviously never worked at the receiving end of the general public, it's a wonder that some of them can remember how to dress themselves.

zeDuffMan

4,055 posts

151 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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ashleyman said:
Seeing these 2 men grappling at the side of the road with lorries and cars passing in L1 at speed looked dangerous. If one of them was to slip or fall or get pushed into oncoming traffic they'd be dead
The fact that two grown men have stopped on the hard shoulder to have a punch up suggests nothing would be lost if something did happen.

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Gafferjim said:
CraigyMc said:
Is there an app that can dispatch the services to wherever the phone is, bypassing the call handlers altogether?
HAHAHA! You've obviously never worked at the receiving end of the general public, it's a wonder that some of them can remember how to dress themselves.
Nothing stopping someone from building tech that identifies people properly by their phones and doing precisely what the callhandlers do after that.

V8RX7

26,870 posts

263 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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IME it's more that the entire system and / or operators are useless.

I've called them a few times, the last time was for a large tree that some idiots had set on fire, in the summer, in the woods of a local park.

I tried to tell her which entrance and whereabouts in the park but she insisted on a road name - which I didn't know.

I asked to be put through to the local station as they'd know the area but that isn't possible, I told her to pass my No. to them - that isn't possible - in the end I gave up too.

As the Fire Station was only a couple of miles away

"Tell them to look out the window and follow the smoke"


FiF

44,094 posts

251 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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To be fair the problem they have is a difficult one when the location isn't a specific and easily identifiable address. Add in they cannot have local knowledge, when the caller doesn't have local knowledge too then it must be almost impossible.

Still think it's not beyond the wit of man to have something in their system to allow identification of a location by some universal method. We have a nation that is mapped by that amazing organisation Ordnance Survey, and has been doing this for generations.

My phone can virtually instantly generate my location in various forms, I can press one app and it determines location and sticks it into Twitter / email / SMS message instantly, or plots it into a map. FFS the way we are tracked these days, I can roll up at the local Chinese restaurant and Google is asking me for a review, or walk into Sainsbury's and before a minute is up get a message about here are My Supermarket bargains in the store. If bloody Google can find you inside a minute then.... I

zeDuffMan

4,055 posts

151 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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FiF said:
Still think it's not beyond the wit of man to have something in their system to allow identification of a location by some universal method. We have a nation that is mapped by that amazing organisation Ordnance Survey, and has been doing this for generations.
https://what3words.com/

FiF

44,094 posts

251 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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zeDuffMan said:
FiF said:
Still think it's not beyond the wit of man to have something in their system to allow identification of a location by some universal method. We have a nation that is mapped by that amazing organisation Ordnance Survey, and has been doing this for generations.
https://what3words.com/
Interesting, found the three words that fixed the location where I broke my knee last year and folks had so much trouble describing the location to ambulance service. Opened the map, typed the three words in, BOOM, straight there. Access points need local knowledge mind, but still.

akirk

5,390 posts

114 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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there would be no difficulty in having a system for the call handler where they just type in the information they are given and the system pinpoints the location - they could use a mixture of signs / roads / junctions / etc. and a computer can work it out - no need for human training when you are dealing with quantifiable data sets

jamei303

3,004 posts

156 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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I had this problem reporting a wheelbarrow on the M25. I memorised the location sign that happened to be immediately adjacent to the thing and told this to the operator. They then asked me what junction I was near and how far I was from it. I've no idea I said, 30, 31? A mile or two maybe? But it was exactly at M25.B.185.1. Ok they said, we'll try and find it. rolleyes

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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lord trumpton said:
Must admit I've got no idea where MXX JX is either
Think it's around 1020 10

HTH

swisstoni

17,012 posts

279 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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All that money to devise and implement what looks like an excellent location system and no money spent telling anyone about it.

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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pits said:
lord trumpton said:
Must admit I've got no idea where MXX JX is either
Think it's around 1020 10

HTH
Roman roads are always easier due to the straightness.

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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CraigyMc said:
pits said:
lord trumpton said:
Must admit I've got no idea where MXX JX is either
Think it's around 1020 10

HTH
Roman roads are always easier due to the straightness.
Slippery though, too many cobbles, Romans like a cobble stone.

surveyor

17,828 posts

184 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Highways agency had no problem when I called to report a scaffold pole on the M25. But then I already knew the basic common sense that it was easier to locate the area by stopping and using the fixed phone by the motorway.