RE: Rolls-Royce Cullinan on the 'ring!

RE: Rolls-Royce Cullinan on the 'ring!

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Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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loose cannon said:
Cheaper tyres, better On fuel,cheaper to maintain when it breaks, look better,
More aerodynamic, you won't scare the hell out of everyone and there aunty when you tailgate them to oblivion, and you will not look like a mouse in a block of flats
Oh and estate cars have more room and handle much better and you will be safe in the knowledge that you won't look a prize Pratt
If image bothers you which is ironic because that's the main reason for owning an SUV
Cheapest tyres I've ever had were on my ML.
Not sure why cheaper to maintain??
Look better - most estate cars looks awful compared to saloon and most SUVs.
Their not There....but I really don't think a guy in an X5 Vs 5-Series Touring is going to suddenly scare the hell out of everyone rolleyes
Estate cars have less room....and how many people by estate cars based on the handling rather than their load lugging ability?

As for image being the prime driver, such crap and utter ignorance. Time to prise the chip off your shoulder!

E65Ross

35,090 posts

213 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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loose cannon said:
Cheaper tyres, better On fuel,cheaper to maintain when it breaks, look better,
More aerodynamic, you won't scare the hell out of everyone and there aunty when you tailgate them to oblivion, and you will not look like a mouse in a block of flats
Oh and estate cars have more room and handle much better and you will be safe in the knowledge that you won't look a prize Pratt
If image bothers you which is ironic because that's the main reason for owning an SUV
You mention cheaper on fuel AND more aerodynamic as 2 individual points, but in reality they're one and the same....

Tyres....the price differences are very negligible in the scheme of things for equivalent models. Tyres for 530d touring vs a 3.0 diesel X5 are not really any different for price.

More room? See my previous comments. Look better.....subjective. Cheaper to maintain when it breaks??! How on earth is an SUV more expensive than an estate?

The only point I'll grant you is the fuel economy, but even that isn't that much difference. Clearly people want them for a reason hence they're so popular.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Ares said:
Cheapest tyres I've ever had were on my ML.
Not sure why cheaper to maintain??
Look better - most estate cars looks awful compared to saloon and most SUVs.
Their not There....but I really don't think a guy in an X5 Vs 5-Series Touring is going to suddenly scare the hell out of everyone rolleyes
Estate cars have less room....and how many people by estate cars based on the handling rather than their load lugging ability?

As for image being the prime driver, such crap and utter ignorance. Time to prise the chip off your shoulder!
Lol what utter bile I love posting stuff to wind up self centred muppets like you and all the rest of the upset brigade, I couldn't give a hoot what car other people own tbh I just love winding people up on here as it's really the only point now to pistonheads tbh laugh ten people on my tea break table rolling around in the floor hehe

Edited by loose cannon on Friday 28th July 10:25

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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loose cannon said:
Ares said:
Cheapest tyres I've ever had were on my ML.
Not sure why cheaper to maintain??
Look better - most estate cars looks awful compared to saloon and most SUVs.
Their not There....but I really don't think a guy in an X5 Vs 5-Series Touring is going to suddenly scare the hell out of everyone rolleyes
Estate cars have less room....and how many people by estate cars based on the handling rather than their load lugging ability?

As for image being the prime driver, such crap and utter ignorance. Time to prise the chip off your shoulder!
Lol what utter bile I love posting stuff to wind up self centred muppets like you and all the rest of the upset brigade, I couldn't give a hoot what car other people own tbh I just love winding people up on here as it's really the only point now to pistonheads tbh laugh
Bile?

As for only posting to wind people up. Really?

I apologise, I granted you with maturity and intelligence, seeking a (vaguely) intelligent discussion. I was wrong. But for you, perhaps it's time to grow up, at least before the new term starts.

Halmyre

11,208 posts

140 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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loose cannon said:
Ares said:
Cheapest tyres I've ever had were on my ML.
Not sure why cheaper to maintain??
Look better - most estate cars looks awful compared to saloon and most SUVs.
Their not There....but I really don't think a guy in an X5 Vs 5-Series Touring is going to suddenly scare the hell out of everyone rolleyes
Estate cars have less room....and how many people by estate cars based on the handling rather than their load lugging ability?

As for image being the prime driver, such crap and utter ignorance. Time to prise the chip off your shoulder!
Lol what utter bile I love posting stuff to wind up self centred muppets like you and all the rest of the upset brigade, I couldn't give a hoot what car other people own tbh I just love winding people up on here as it's really the only point now to pistonheads tbh laugh ten people on my tea break table rolling around in the floor hehe

Edited by loose cannon on Friday 28th July 10:25
The Cringeworthy thread is over there --->

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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seefarr said:
What's with the names of these hideously blingy behemoths - Bentley Bentgaya and Rolls Cullinangus? Really? laugh
I think Rolls Royce has chosen an absolute diamond of a name.


Edited by Europa1 on Friday 28th July 13:58

Pickled

2,051 posts

144 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Love it!

There really is something special about a Goodwood RR, an old client has a Phantom and I was lucky enough to be taken out in it a few times and nothing compares (IMO) I can see him buying one to replace his Phantom and Disco for track car towing duties (if they type approve a towbar)


DonkeyApple

55,364 posts

170 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Europa1 said:
I think Rolls Royce has chosen an absolute diamond of a name.


Edited by Europa1 on Friday 28th July 13:58
As names of diamonds go it's one of the better ones.

Would have been more fun if they'd named it 26th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union though. biggrin

DPSFleet

192 posts

162 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Emperor's clothes this! Just reflects who the Customers are these days for a RR. Awful thing, why would you ever want such a monster. Wonder if it has chandeliers inside?

Robert-nszl1

401 posts

89 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Wills2 said:
Crankie Shaft said:
DonkeyApple said:
The truth is that this massive, uber luxurious car is fully in keeping with RR's true heritage. If any marque was ever going to be suitable for the luxury SUV trend it is very obviously RR who first made SUVs over 100 years ago up until they switched to saloons in the 60s.

This behemoth is finally a return to its roots for RR.










Arguably, this will be the first time since it was nationalised in 71 that Rolls Royce Motors has produced a true Rolls Royce a la Rolls Royce Ltd, the company that invented the luxury SUV over 100 years ago.
Completely agree. Good post sir.
Yep me too.
Well sort of, except RR hardly carried the tradition on much beyond the 20/30's, and a Rolls towing a trailer doesn't make it an SUV. Part of the problem is that the marque lost much of its 'class' in the 70's, and it has struggled to regain it. I recognise Range Rovers can look brash, but the man that turns up to a shoot in this thing rather than a soberly appointed Vogue may be disappointed with the reaction. That said I suspect anyone that buys a Rolls probably doesn't care what others think.

I have to say I find it a fascinatingly terrible thing, and would love to have a go in it! Certainly not something I would say about the Bentayga

DonkeyApple

55,364 posts

170 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Indeed but the basis was to show that 100 years ago the product was used by the extremely wealthy to go out into the world. It had ground clearance, was significantly larger than the average car (the pic of the Bug being towed has always been mildly amusing as a bit of history), camping, towing, expeditions, knocking around estates and down unmetalled roads all in the finest comfort possible at the time. They were Sports Utility Vehicles. Spacious, comfortable road cars that could easily be used for the sporting persuits of the day.

But ever since the British Govt nationalised it their products seem mostly to have been used for curb crawling and other classic urban persuits for which a large saloon was perfectly adequate.

This behemoth is more of a traditional RR than anything since 1971.

As for the modern 'shoot' well there are destinctly two types these days which is why you always try and view the guest list before accepting an invitation. This thing won't be remotely uncommon!!!!!!!

Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 29th July 10:20

LuS1fer

41,136 posts

246 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Remember when they stopped John Dodds using their grille and then they stole his styling....
https://youtu.be/u43pWEwI6xY

MDL111

6,958 posts

178 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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E65Ross said:
loose cannon said:
Cheaper tyres, better On fuel,cheaper to maintain when it breaks, look better,
More aerodynamic, you won't scare the hell out of everyone and there aunty when you tailgate them to oblivion, and you will not look like a mouse in a block of flats
Oh and estate cars have more room and handle much better and you will be safe in the knowledge that you won't look a prize Pratt
If image bothers you which is ironic because that's the main reason for owning an SUV
You mention cheaper on fuel AND more aerodynamic as 2 individual points, but in reality they're one and the same....

Tyres....the price differences are very negligible in the scheme of things for equivalent models. Tyres for 530d touring vs a 3.0 diesel X5 are not really any different for price.

More room? See my previous comments. Look better.....subjective. Cheaper to maintain when it breaks??! How on earth is an SUV more expensive than an estate?

The only point I'll grant you is the fuel economy, but even that isn't that much difference. Clearly people want them for a reason hence they're so popular.
I would have thought that active safety is better in an estate than an SUV - Higher Centre of Gravity and higher weight should ensure that braking from high speed or cornering at high speeds is more difficult in the SUV / same goes for impact of cross winds at high speeds. i am thinking Autobahn not mincing about on the m25 - which - granted - for you guys is probably less relevant

E65Ross

35,090 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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MDL111 said:
E65Ross said:
loose cannon said:
Cheaper tyres, better On fuel,cheaper to maintain when it breaks, look better,
More aerodynamic, you won't scare the hell out of everyone and there aunty when you tailgate them to oblivion, and you will not look like a mouse in a block of flats
Oh and estate cars have more room and handle much better and you will be safe in the knowledge that you won't look a prize Pratt
If image bothers you which is ironic because that's the main reason for owning an SUV
You mention cheaper on fuel AND more aerodynamic as 2 individual points, but in reality they're one and the same....

Tyres....the price differences are very negligible in the scheme of things for equivalent models. Tyres for 530d touring vs a 3.0 diesel X5 are not really any different for price.

More room? See my previous comments. Look better.....subjective. Cheaper to maintain when it breaks??! How on earth is an SUV more expensive than an estate?

The only point I'll grant you is the fuel economy, but even that isn't that much difference. Clearly people want them for a reason hence they're so popular.
I would have thought that active safety is better in an estate than an SUV - Higher Centre of Gravity and higher weight should ensure that braking from high speed or cornering at high speeds is more difficult in the SUV / same goes for impact of cross winds at high speeds. i am thinking Autobahn not mincing about on the m25 - which - granted - for you guys is probably less relevant
Yes, braking from 150mph compared to its estate counterpart is really relevant for 99% of SUV buyers....

DonkeyApple

55,364 posts

170 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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There's bound to be an EV version of this car in due point as the silky smooth and instant torque delivery of the electric motor very much favours this type of car and the majority of owners live in the global metropolises impacted by modern legislation, so I wonder if a floor full of batteries would help SUVs in the stability stakes for those who live life Le Mans Stylee.

MDL111

6,958 posts

178 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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E65Ross said:
MDL111 said:
E65Ross said:
loose cannon said:
Cheaper tyres, better On fuel,cheaper to maintain when it breaks, look better,
More aerodynamic, you won't scare the hell out of everyone and there aunty when you tailgate them to oblivion, and you will not look like a mouse in a block of flats
Oh and estate cars have more room and handle much better and you will be safe in the knowledge that you won't look a prize Pratt
If image bothers you which is ironic because that's the main reason for owning an SUV
You mention cheaper on fuel AND more aerodynamic as 2 individual points, but in reality they're one and the same....

Tyres....the price differences are very negligible in the scheme of things for equivalent models. Tyres for 530d touring vs a 3.0 diesel X5 are not really any different for price.

More room? See my previous comments. Look better.....subjective. Cheaper to maintain when it breaks??! How on earth is an SUV more expensive than an estate?

The only point I'll grant you is the fuel economy, but even that isn't that much difference. Clearly people want them for a reason hence they're so popular.
I would have thought that active safety is better in an estate than an SUV - Higher Centre of Gravity and higher weight should ensure that braking from high speed or cornering at high speeds is more difficult in the SUV / same goes for impact of cross winds at high speeds. i am thinking Autobahn not mincing about on the m25 - which - granted - for you guys is probably less relevant
Yes, braking from 150mph compared to its estate counterpart is really relevant for 99% of SUV buyers....
Well... I thought we were listing reasons where SUVs are inferior to estates. And in Germany it will likely be relevant to more than 1 percent of buyers I would've thought - does not seem to keep them from buying suvs though

Robert-nszl1

401 posts

89 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Indeed but the basis was to show that 100 years ago the product was used by the extremely wealthy to go out into the world. It had ground clearance, was significantly larger than the average car (the pic of the Bug being towed has always been mildly amusing as a bit of history), camping, towing, expeditions, knocking around estates and down unmetalled roads all in the finest comfort possible at the time. They were Sports Utility Vehicles. Spacious, comfortable road cars that could easily be used for the sporting persuits of the day.

But ever since the British Govt nationalised it their products seem mostly to have been used for curb crawling and other classic urban persuits for which a large saloon was perfectly adequate.

This behemoth is more of a traditional RR than anything since 1971.

As for the modern 'shoot' well there are destinctly two types these days which is why you always try and view the guest list before accepting an invitation. This thing won't be remotely uncommon!!!!!!!

Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 29th July 10:20
I'm not disagreeing that back in the day they were indeed large/ go anywhere vehicles. I was merely suggesting it wasn't a tradition that they maintained. Great pics though. I wasn't particularly disagreeing with your post, there are many manufacturers with far more tenuous links to the historic SUV. One might of course argue that all cars back then were SUVs to a degree, given they had to be. RR's were (amongst other things) very reliable. Perhaps ironic given another poster has suggested they are suffering quality issues

E65Ross

35,090 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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MDL111 said:
E65Ross said:
MDL111 said:
E65Ross said:
loose cannon said:
Cheaper tyres, better On fuel,cheaper to maintain when it breaks, look better,
More aerodynamic, you won't scare the hell out of everyone and there aunty when you tailgate them to oblivion, and you will not look like a mouse in a block of flats
Oh and estate cars have more room and handle much better and you will be safe in the knowledge that you won't look a prize Pratt
If image bothers you which is ironic because that's the main reason for owning an SUV
You mention cheaper on fuel AND more aerodynamic as 2 individual points, but in reality they're one and the same....

Tyres....the price differences are very negligible in the scheme of things for equivalent models. Tyres for 530d touring vs a 3.0 diesel X5 are not really any different for price.

More room? See my previous comments. Look better.....subjective. Cheaper to maintain when it breaks??! How on earth is an SUV more expensive than an estate?

The only point I'll grant you is the fuel economy, but even that isn't that much difference. Clearly people want them for a reason hence they're so popular.
I would have thought that active safety is better in an estate than an SUV - Higher Centre of Gravity and higher weight should ensure that braking from high speed or cornering at high speeds is more difficult in the SUV / same goes for impact of cross winds at high speeds. i am thinking Autobahn not mincing about on the m25 - which - granted - for you guys is probably less relevant
Yes, braking from 150mph compared to its estate counterpart is really relevant for 99% of SUV buyers....
Well... I thought we were listing reasons where SUVs are inferior to estates. And in Germany it will likely be relevant to more than 1 percent of buyers I would've thought - does not seem to keep them from buying suvs though
Before quoting this as fact, I'd be interested in seeing any stats suggesting that SUVs are less safe due to supposed increased stopping distances. Do the SUVs have slightly larger brakes than their estate counterparts....and are the stopping distances definitely longer? And is that increase in distance actually significant (ie more than just a couple of percent)?

Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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E65Ross said:
In that case the higher driving position often (not always) means they have a better ride quality. As I said above, the width can sometimes be that bit better inside as my friend found out by being able to get 3 kid seats across the back of an X5 and not in a 5 series touring. See above RE 4WD as well (although that argument is becoming less strong as more companies now offer 4WD in saloons and estates.

Definitely a few reasons as to why some prefer them over estate cars. Still can't understand why people can't grasp that, but there we go!

I personally prefer estate cars, yet I can totally see why people buy them. Interesting people slate cars like the Audi Q range, BMW X range etc yet rarely slate a RR. If it's because the RR is better off road.....then that's a bit odd, considering many of the RR cars sold to the public will never go off road....
If you're referring to the Range Rover not the Rolls, they do have better off road ability, I've used mine off road a good few times and it takes everything I've thrown at it, unfortunately(and as much as I like them) they're also unreliable piles of junk which constantly go wrong, I've vowed never to buy another LR product after this, I'm going to do what I should have done ages ago and buy a Landcruiser.

Rolls Royce 4x4, it looks nice enough, not my cup of tea though plus i couldn't afford one.

CDP

7,460 posts

255 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Quickmoose said:
Love how hard core off road vehicles became sanitised to use on roads.... and that now we have road vehicles relentlessly marketed as off road adventuring utility products with massive ground clearance and 4WD and hill descent...
I can imagine in the Gulf there will be a fair few of these with set up with sand tyres and space for falcons in the back.