RE: Porsche to quit LMP1
Discussion
Agree with the majority, Formula E is absolute rubbish. I've persuaded myself to watch a couple of races on TV but it only confirmed my pre-conception that it was devoid of any of the qualities that make motor sport attractive. Porsche might consider Jaguar's experience in FE also - walk into a Jag showroom and you don't see too many photos on the wall of their magnificent FE car do you ?
Final 2 thoughts. 1) if you'd walked up to the average WEC enthusiast 10 years ago and said that Ginetta would be in with a shout of overall honours at Le Mans in 2018 would they have checked what you were smoking ? 2) Scalextric might feel some natural affiliation to FE but whilst their latest releases include a VW Microbus, Ian Scheckter's Gunston liveried Lotus 72 and the infamous E type Shaguar (although not advertised as such) there is no sign of a model FE car as yet - ironic or what ?
Final 2 thoughts. 1) if you'd walked up to the average WEC enthusiast 10 years ago and said that Ginetta would be in with a shout of overall honours at Le Mans in 2018 would they have checked what you were smoking ? 2) Scalextric might feel some natural affiliation to FE but whilst their latest releases include a VW Microbus, Ian Scheckter's Gunston liveried Lotus 72 and the infamous E type Shaguar (although not advertised as such) there is no sign of a model FE car as yet - ironic or what ?
Edited by moffspeed on Saturday 29th July 09:11
PhantomPH said:
Loyly said:
This is sad news. Formula E is deathly dull. It is the crappest motorsport around.
This.I've genuinely given FE a chance, but it does absolutely NOTHING for me. Perhaps I am not the demographic it appeals to. I am the dinosaur.
No noise = no fun to watch. Just something wrong about "green cars" and motorsport.
Might be more fun if the pit stops had the entire pit crew jump on some stationary bikes linked to generators, and they have to charge up the batteries in the car for the rest of the race.
Alternatively, they remove the batteries, and electric motor and replace with a high reving v8 or v10 engine...............
ONtheROCS said:
I've tried watching FE but it's simply rubbish. WTF is "fan boost" all about? I know it's not the only racing series with gimmicky crap chucked in but come on.
It's just a ruse to to try and get spectator involvement/connect with the viewers. I suppose it needs gimmicks to get the sport off the ground. Just tried watching a FE race and turned off before the end, the onboard sound is like a visit to the dentist
I'm out.
Mr-B said:
It's just a ruse to to try and get spectator involvement/connect with the viewers. I suppose it needs gimmicks to get the sport off the ground.
Just tried watching a FE race and turned off before the end, the onboard sound is like a visit to the dentist
I'm out.
I tried too. Lasted 7 laps.... Just tried watching a FE race and turned off before the end, the onboard sound is like a visit to the dentist
I'm out.
Then turned on Sky Arts and enjoyed the who and now Fleetwood Mac.
Imagine 1/4 mile EV races.... likely faster but utter silence...
Who cares. Maybe I'm old fashioned but the smell of unburnt petrol and a thundering engine or a screamer of an engine or that amazing Mazda Le Mans winning w
ker engineer are all sublime. If I want to see super fast EVs I'll get my look 1/8th scale Kyosho inferno out.
Whilst I expected this to mostly be complaining about Formula E being rubbish I didn't expect it to be so consistent...
I can't be the only person who does like it. The racing is closer and more interesting than in Formula 1 in my opinion, partly helped by the low aero they run and the somewhat crap tyres. If they were to re-body the cars as touring cars they might be better received, something like Nissan Leafs etc.
I can't be the only person who does like it. The racing is closer and more interesting than in Formula 1 in my opinion, partly helped by the low aero they run and the somewhat crap tyres. If they were to re-body the cars as touring cars they might be better received, something like Nissan Leafs etc.
MrGeoff said:
This is a shame. I just can't, and I've tried, to get excited about Formula E.
Probably because it's the WWE of motorsport.Fan Boost??? Oh dear...
The need to swap cars part way through the race hardly paints Electric cars in a positive light either.
I'd rather watch NASCAR! (and that's saying a LOT!)
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iwantcheese5 said:
Whilst I expected this to mostly be complaining about Formula E being rubbish I didn't expect it to be so consistent...
I can't be the only person who does like it. The racing is closer and more interesting than in Formula 1 in my opinion, partly helped by the low aero they run and the somewhat crap tyres. If they were to re-body the cars as touring cars they might be better received, something like Nissan Leafs etc.
There is a lot of electric = bad attitude and refuse to actually watch without prejudice. I can't be the only person who does like it. The racing is closer and more interesting than in Formula 1 in my opinion, partly helped by the low aero they run and the somewhat crap tyres. If they were to re-body the cars as touring cars they might be better received, something like Nissan Leafs etc.
I enjoy it, as you say the racing is close which makes it interesting, it is odd being quiet but its just different and takes a bit of getting used to, but it doesn't bother me.
Mr-B said:
Just tried watching a FE race and turned off before the end, the onboard sound is like a visit to the dentist
I'm out.
I'm out.
As others have done, I've made attempts to watch it a few times last year.
Haven't bothered at all this year, and likely won't ever again.
Things like this will just push 'Historic Motorsport' further into the mainstream IMHO.
While not a member any more, I'm still in touch with people from my old motor club, and there's now no one competing in 'current' rallying, everyone, including the few under 40's that compete are all running cars in 'historic rallying' classes.
The prime spectator event for most club members these days, isn't the Rally GB, Brit GP etc., but Goodwood Revival, Silverstone Classic, Roger Albert Clark Rally etc.
If all the big manufacturers left Le Mans maybe we'd return to the days of interesting teams and car parks not full of identikit fleet cars along with sensible pricing.
Let Formula E hoover up all the corporate wkery and blandness and keep it all in one place where thousands of accountant and middle office types can accept their corporate invites and hang out together talking about dull things while having a glance occasionally at some dull racing.
Let Formula E hoover up all the corporate w
kery and blandness and keep it all in one place where thousands of accountant and middle office types can accept their corporate invites and hang out together talking about dull things while having a glance occasionally at some dull racing. DonkeyApple said:
If all the big manufacturers left Le Mans maybe we'd return to the days of interesting teams and car parks not full of identikit fleet cars along with sensible pricing.
Let Formula E hoover up all the corporate wkery and blandness and keep it all in one place where thousands of accountant and middle office types can accept their corporate invites and hang out together talking about dull things while having a glance occasionally at some dull racing.
These manufacturers sponsor the event so if that goes ticket prices will go up or a reduced event. Let Formula E hoover up all the corporate w
kery and blandness and keep it all in one place where thousands of accountant and middle office types can accept their corporate invites and hang out together talking about dull things while having a glance occasionally at some dull racing. FIREBIRDC9 said:
Whats going to happen to Toyota?
Are they really going to want to take part in LMP1 seeing as they are the only manufacturer team?
Can't see them staying unless someone else steps upAre they really going to want to take part in LMP1 seeing as they are the only manufacturer team?
DonkeyApple said:
If all the big manufacturers left Le Mans maybe we'd return to the days of interesting teams and car parks not full of identikit fleet cars along with sensible pricing.
Let Formula E hoover up all the corporate wkery and blandness and keep it all in one place where thousands of accountant and middle office types can accept their corporate invites and hang out together talking about dull things while having a glance occasionally at some dull racing.
Porsche and Audi weren't stopping people from competing. LMP1 was always going command huge investment, them leaving doesn't change this fact, now what we'll have is simply LMP1 dying and not a "return of interesting teams", and that's somehow great?Let Formula E hoover up all the corporate w
kery and blandness and keep it all in one place where thousands of accountant and middle office types can accept their corporate invites and hang out together talking about dull things while having a glance occasionally at some dull racing. Welshbeef said:
These manufacturers sponsor the event so if that goes ticket prices will go up or a reduced event.
Not necessarily. It just means there is less money to be syphoned off and by fewer people. Le Mans is an utterly bloated corporate event, loaded with debt and corporate excess. Like so many events these days which have been high jacked by corporates for their own benefit. 20 years ago it still managed to attract just as many people. The racing was just as good as was the entertainment. It just didn't cost anywhere near as much as you weren't having to line the pockets of hundreds of leaches.
Formula E as the absolute pinnacle of corporate f
kwittery and how it sucks all sports dry of any kind of sportiness. There has to be a prototype class which pushes the boundaries.
But EV is madness
100% reliability
Pit stop would be battery swap
Water cooled motors to prevent overheating.
Electrical fire
What about the dangers of accidents. With battery vehicles and leaking acid on the track /onto competitors.
But EV is madness
100% reliability
Pit stop would be battery swap
Water cooled motors to prevent overheating.
Electrical fire
What about the dangers of accidents. With battery vehicles and leaking acid on the track /onto competitors.
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