RE: Jaguar F-Type 2.0: Review
Discussion
ZX10R NIN said:
Is this car meant for foreign markets that penalise cars over 2000cc.
I guess so, given that now the same unit powers quite a few models across the JLR line-up.Makes good business sense to them, even if the pricing strategy seems skewed to the UK consumer. Are we the largest JLR consumers? Probably not. The Middle East and Asia / China are likely more significant players.
ZX10R NIN said:
Is this car meant for foreign markets that penalise cars over 2000cc.
It surely must be. I can't begin to understand the mentality of a UK customer who might walk into a Jaguar dealership burning for an F-Type and opt to secure a 4cyl for £2k odd less than a wholly better V6 (i.e. a decent amount of cylinders for a premium sports car at circa £50k) - even with a couple of hundred pounds extra in tax to fork out.Still I expect we'll see numerous single-exhaust Fs on the roads in months to come.
Many years ago I had an XJS that required a V12 to generate 300bhp. It was plenty fast but a complete boat.
Knock £8k off the basic price to increase the gap with the V6 and I'd be in like Flynn on one of these.
Entirely sensible engine. Use 50 per ent of the power potential 20 per cent of the time instead of - (with the V8) 10 per cent of the potential five per cent of the time.
Unless you have your own race track and an unlimited tyre budget.
Knock £8k off the basic price to increase the gap with the V6 and I'd be in like Flynn on one of these.
Entirely sensible engine. Use 50 per ent of the power potential 20 per cent of the time instead of - (with the V8) 10 per cent of the potential five per cent of the time.
Unless you have your own race track and an unlimited tyre budget.
Jaguar need this in their range. In some markets anything over 2 litres is heavily penalised with taxes. In the UK it looks expensive, but JLR appears to have set a c£3000 OTR pricing differential between the higher output 4s and the lower end V6s across all of its models - both Jaguar and Land Rover. It will be revealing to see if this changes when the in line 6 Ingenium engine is launched.
I imagine that this model is aimed at those who want a good looking sports car without the expense of raw performance. As with the manual gearbox, time will tell if they have got it right. The US market will provide the best test of this. Unfortunately for Jaguar the total US sports car has shrunk over the years.
I imagine that this model is aimed at those who want a good looking sports car without the expense of raw performance. As with the manual gearbox, time will tell if they have got it right. The US market will provide the best test of this. Unfortunately for Jaguar the total US sports car has shrunk over the years.
oldtimer2 said:
Jaguar need this in their range. In some markets anything over 2 litres is heavily penalised with taxes.
This really, it's not a model for the UK market, they just offer it. I'd spend the extra £3k and get the V6 without question, but if it came at a 30% hike in price (as it would in some markets) that'd be a different story!Would be interesting to see the spec sheet differences between the 2.0 and the base v6 so that you can level the spec with options and then see the real difference. If it is 3k and spec is like for like then v6 no brainier for the UK market. It's good to see Jaguar offering products to compete around the world better than ever before though.
Krikkit said:
oldtimer2 said:
Jaguar need this in their range. In some markets anything over 2 litres is heavily penalised with taxes.
This really, it's not a model for the UK market, they just offer it. I'd spend the extra £3k and get the V6 without question, but if it came at a 30% hike in price (as it would in some markets) that'd be a different story!oldtimer2 said:
Jaguar need this in their range. In some markets anything over 2 litres is heavily penalised with taxes. In the UK it looks expensive, but JLR appears to have set a c£3000 OTR pricing differential between the higher output 4s and the lower end V6s across all of its models - both Jaguar and Land Rover. It will be revealing to see if this changes when the in line 6 Ingenium engine is launched.
I imagine that this model is aimed at those who want a good looking sports car without the expense of raw performance. As with the manual gearbox, time will tell if they have got it right. The US market will provide the best test of this. Unfortunately for Jaguar the total US sports car has shrunk over the years.
I dislike the lash-up V6 they currently use on principle, but for all it's "do the best you can with what you can find" design it works well enough. You'd have to be a complete fkwit to chose a heavily boosted 4 banger over it to save £3k in this or any other car.I imagine that this model is aimed at those who want a good looking sports car without the expense of raw performance. As with the manual gearbox, time will tell if they have got it right. The US market will provide the best test of this. Unfortunately for Jaguar the total US sports car has shrunk over the years.
I am hoping very much that they manage to make the I6 ingenium less middle of the pack than the I4. The return of the straight six to Jaguar deserves something special.
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