RE: Singer and Williams AE engine collaboration!
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Digga said:
RobDickinson said:
thegreenhell said:
You have the right name for it.
I know right!Love it... but let's just wait til it's in a car not a 3d rendering. That exhaust is low on a real car rather than a bare demonstration shell.
Porsche had trouble cooling their four valve heads and it is why they switched to water cooling.
Most of the singer engines, ninemeister, cosworth, ed pink and others have all used tried and tested parts. Not to take anything away from Singer but they have used other people's evolution and chosen the fittest. Is this a step to far for a company that still needs a donor 964 and a lawyer telling you its reimagined?
I hope they get a road going version as reliable as a current incarnation.
Porsche had trouble cooling their four valve heads and it is why they switched to water cooling.
Most of the singer engines, ninemeister, cosworth, ed pink and others have all used tried and tested parts. Not to take anything away from Singer but they have used other people's evolution and chosen the fittest. Is this a step to far for a company that still needs a donor 964 and a lawyer telling you its reimagined?
I hope they get a road going version as reliable as a current incarnation.
I'm old enough to remember when the name 'Singer' was muttered under your breath, it meant a sewing machine make.
Sadly, as soon as the names Ruf or Singer are attached to the brand Porsche it makes them immediately out of the range of 90+% of the readers on here.
No doubt as stunning a machine to look at as it is to drive, but sadly it won't ever be within my budget.
Are politicians really going to ban cars like this from being manufactured after 2040? Think we need to start protesting now, otherwise cars like this will go the way of the dinosaurs...
Sadly, as soon as the names Ruf or Singer are attached to the brand Porsche it makes them immediately out of the range of 90+% of the readers on here.
No doubt as stunning a machine to look at as it is to drive, but sadly it won't ever be within my budget.
Are politicians really going to ban cars like this from being manufactured after 2040? Think we need to start protesting now, otherwise cars like this will go the way of the dinosaurs...
Rocket. said:
Shame it will only be for the few but what a riposte to the supposed death of the ICE !
After your Tesla has driven you to work and back all week, Saturday morning you wake up & open your garage to this, add a few gallons of precious fuel and all is right with the world. It must be just me, because all I think is that the factory builds a base car reasonably well, and along comes an aftermarket firm to improve it for a ridiculous amount of money.
When EV's move to their next version of battery tech, they will not only outperform it (the Tesla arguably does so already in acceleration), but will do so effortlessly, and will have over-the-air upgrades which are simply not possible with ICE.
I remember the days when you had to spend a fortune on hardware to upgrade your car, with highly variable results, and often dubious claims of both performance and warranty support. These days, the EV solution solves all of that seamlessly.
I really have no interest in any Singer, and not much interest in a 911 either, as I believe a GTR is a better ICE car. And I'm just waiting for the next version of EV to leapfrog all of these cars in every area, as I think the range anxiety issue still hasn't been fully beaten. But once it is, I don't see a future for an ICE in my life at all.
I just want to see Lexus do an EV to their usual quality standard.
When EV's move to their next version of battery tech, they will not only outperform it (the Tesla arguably does so already in acceleration), but will do so effortlessly, and will have over-the-air upgrades which are simply not possible with ICE.
I remember the days when you had to spend a fortune on hardware to upgrade your car, with highly variable results, and often dubious claims of both performance and warranty support. These days, the EV solution solves all of that seamlessly.
I really have no interest in any Singer, and not much interest in a 911 either, as I believe a GTR is a better ICE car. And I'm just waiting for the next version of EV to leapfrog all of these cars in every area, as I think the range anxiety issue still hasn't been fully beaten. But once it is, I don't see a future for an ICE in my life at all.
I just want to see Lexus do an EV to their usual quality standard.
big_rob_sydney said:
I remember the days when you had to spend a fortune on hardware to upgrade your car, with highly variable results, and often dubious claims of both performance and warranty support. These days, the EV solution solves all of that seamlessly.
I don't think so, EV's will still be fundamentally limited by their physical components. You might be able to gain some efficiencies through tweaking software in terms of battery management and so on, but battery capacity will be defined by the chemistry, power transmission by the electronics hardware and motors. I'd think of over the air updates like getting a remap rather than any more significant upgradeSeen a few singers in the flesh at goodwood and they were truly amazing. A car that I would genuily love to own, but let's face it's lottery win territory!
In fact I don't get that excited about many new cars these days, but the Singer 911s are really something that I really appreciate.
In fact I don't get that excited about many new cars these days, but the Singer 911s are really something that I really appreciate.
egomeister said:
big_rob_sydney said:
I remember the days when you had to spend a fortune on hardware to upgrade your car, with highly variable results, and often dubious claims of both performance and warranty support. These days, the EV solution solves all of that seamlessly.
I don't think so, EV's will still be fundamentally limited by their physical components. You might be able to gain some efficiencies through tweaking software in terms of battery management and so on, but battery capacity will be defined by the chemistry, power transmission by the electronics hardware and motors. I'd think of over the air updates like getting a remap rather than any more significant upgradeI don't believe that's been done yet with ICE cars?
thegreenhell said:
big_rob_sydney said:
It must be just me...
I really have no interest in any Singer...
I just want to see Lexus do an EV to their usual quality standard.
I think I agree; it is just you. Enjoy your electric appliance.I really have no interest in any Singer...
I just want to see Lexus do an EV to their usual quality standard.
Not sure if you heard, but EV's have been for sale for awhile now, and quite a few people are buying them. You may want to check out Tesla, because their car is capable of immense performance, putting in 10.x second quarter miles.
If I can just ask, what is there about that kind of performance that you seem to turn your nose up at? These cars are also fuel efficient, and likely to be more reliable due to having far fewer parts, and certainly less moving parts in the engine area. I get it that a lot of people like the sound of an ICE, but even T-Rex's died out eventually.
big_rob_sydney said:
egomeister said:
big_rob_sydney said:
I remember the days when you had to spend a fortune on hardware to upgrade your car, with highly variable results, and often dubious claims of both performance and warranty support. These days, the EV solution solves all of that seamlessly.
I don't think so, EV's will still be fundamentally limited by their physical components. You might be able to gain some efficiencies through tweaking software in terms of battery management and so on, but battery capacity will be defined by the chemistry, power transmission by the electronics hardware and motors. I'd think of over the air updates like getting a remap rather than any more significant upgradeI don't believe that's been done yet with ICE cars?
big_rob_sydney said:
thegreenhell said:
big_rob_sydney said:
It must be just me...
I really have no interest in any Singer...
I just want to see Lexus do an EV to their usual quality standard.
I think I agree; it is just you. Enjoy your electric appliance.I really have no interest in any Singer...
I just want to see Lexus do an EV to their usual quality standard.
Not sure if you heard, but EV's have been for sale for awhile now, and quite a few people are buying them. You may want to check out Tesla, because their car is capable of immense performance, putting in 10.x second quarter miles.
If I can just ask, what is there about that kind of performance that you seem to turn your nose up at? These cars are also fuel efficient, and likely to be more reliable due to having far fewer parts, and certainly less moving parts in the engine area. I get it that a lot of people like the sound of an ICE, but even T-Rex's died out eventually.
Cars will move like trains, and you won’t be given the option to have fun because for the sake of efficiency every car will have to act the same.
So I suggest you wallow in the ICE while you can as the powers that be will not tolerate the likes of Singer in the future.
This may sound a little depressing but on a positive note I think we have at least 2 -3 decades left before such a future becomes a reality
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