RE: New TVR - the update

[Esceptico]

Low weight (at least relative to rivals), V8, NA, RWD, no driver aids. Looks great. British. All sounds pretty good to me. If I were in the market for such a car this would be on my list.

[E65Ross]

Love how the article mentions about keeping loyal customers happy, after saying they went bust after things like the Boxster came along

Hope it does well!

[suffolk009]

I had a couple of TVRs many years ago. They had some issues.

It'll take a long time to convince my wife that we should get another one. I'm sure the new firm will have everything sorted.

Hopefully they'll become more affordable on the secondhand market.

[anonymous-user]

Is "No driver aids" a real selling point in 2017??

I mean, sure, make then switchable with a Track mode or whatever, but personally, i'd like to have electronic stability control on my 400 bhp/tonne sports car (and i can drive pretty well compared to most buys of this new car i suspect.....)

[andrewcliffe]

As someone has mentioned a TVR Griffith costing £28k in 1992, this is what Porsche would have charged for a 911.


Porsche 911 Carrera 2, £ 48,310.87 after taxes for Coupe rising for £ 54,378.02 for Cabriolet, with manual gearbox
911 Carrera 4 £ 55,347.40 to £ 61,417.00
911 Carrera RS £ 61,100.00
911 turbo £ 75,306.49

[SidewaysSi]

Proof is when people drive them and actually use them.

I don't expect them to have the road and track ability of a GT Porsche. And they need to nail reliability this time or it will be a bit of a farce.

Decent car no doubt but I think we need more than speed and an engine note. Let's see.

[suffolk009]

Max_Torque said:

Is "No driver aids" a real selling point in 2017??

I mean, sure, make then switchable with a Track mode or whatever, but personally, i'd like to have electronic stability control on my 400 bhp/tonne sports car (and i can drive pretty well compared to most buys of this new car i suspect.....)

I had some complete prat pull across in front of me the other day. I was doing 60mph in my wife's Boxster. It would have been very messy. The ABS certainly saved me from a very nasty accident.

Surely this TVR will have ABS, I mean nobody would univent that?

[Byker28i]

andrewcliffe said:

As someone has mentioned a TVR Griffith costing £28k in 1992, this is what Porsche would have charged for a 911.


Porsche 911 Carrera 2, £ 48,310.87 after taxes for Coupe rising for £ 54,378.02 for Cabriolet, with manual gearbox
911 Carrera 4 £ 55,347.40 to £ 61,417.00
911 Carrera RS £ 61,100.00
911 turbo £ 75,306.49

the original owner of my Cerbera paid £41.5k for it in May 1997

[bullittmcqueen]

Max_Torque said:

TVRsaid said:

Torsional rigidity said to be up hugely:

And then show a picture of them putting bending loads into the centre of a tube, and hence having to add an extra gusset to stop it all turning into a jelly...... ;-)

No, the extra rigidity comes from the blue tape you see on the upper tubes.

[smilo996]

Very smsrt move uding murray and isteam. Reduced development costs by about 90% and will make manufacturing easy.
Cowworth V8, cannot be better.

Looking forward to it.

[Tuvra]

Byker28i said:

the original owner of my Cerbera paid £41.5k for it in May 1997

Taking inflation into account that's £70k.

LordGrover said:

Pricing seems about what it was. My 1992 Griffith was c. £28,000 new.
If I compare my salary then and use the same multiplier today it works out pretty close.

Taking inflation into account that's £53k.

[DMC2]

J4CKO said:

Ditto, whilst the 911 is a lovely thing, I am sure there are plenty who want something different, "Unoptioned 911 C2" doesnt sound that appealing even if it is actually great, it sounds a bit head, rather than heart choice and the TVR sounds more heart.

I think thing sound good, sounds like they are really sticking to the old recipe, just "remastering" it.

The 911 is a bullet proof everyday sports car with 4 seats. In theory you can't compare it to a dedicated 2 seater weekend sports car such as the new proposed TVR. But the fact the 911 is wheeled out as the opposition against EVERY sports car shows how good it is. Even an unoptioned C2.

The TVR for £90k is going to have to be VERY special. And reliable. It has a lot of competition in that price bracket.

[_Neal_]

suffolk009 said:

I had some complete prat pull across in front of me the other day. I was doing 60mph in my wife's Boxster. It would have been very messy. The ABS certainly saved me from a very nasty accident.

Surely this TVR will have ABS, I mean nobody would univent that?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that it will have ABS, but may have made that up.

ETA - Not making it up - switchable ABS - at least according to this https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/n...

[Konrod]

Everyon is getting hyped up by the £90k price tag, however that is for the 500LE (launch edition/Les Edgar??) cars that come fully loaded. Drop the carbin chassis and some of the options and you're probably looking high £60k (wild guess). That would perhaps be more of a bargain.

[LordGrover]

[quote=Tuvra

LordGrover said:

Pricing seems about what it was. My 1992 Griffith was c. £28,000 new.
If I compare my salary then and use the same multiplier today it works out pretty close.

Taking inflation into account that's £53k.

That may be the case, but £28,000 in 1992 was about 1.5x my annual salary and today is similar.

[Basil Brush]

Ekona said:

I'm glad it's going to exist again, but I'm never going to be spending £100K on a TVR. Even if I had it in the first place.

Well that's ok as it's 90k.

[TobyLerone]

Esceptico said:

Low weight (at least relative to rivals), V8, NA, RWD, no driver aids. Looks great. British. All sounds pretty good to me. If I were in the market for such a car this would be on my list.

Since it's the Ford 5.0 V8, it'll be supercharged I'd think.

Could be wrong, but my guess is the launch edition will be ~600hp supercharged.

Maybe the 'base' spec will be ~450hp N/A though.

My guess is they have engineered a razor sharp throttle response from the engine - so either N/A or supercharged.

[J4CKO]

DMC2 said:

J4CKO said:

Ditto, whilst the 911 is a lovely thing, I am sure there are plenty who want something different, "Unoptioned 911 C2" doesnt sound that appealing even if it is actually great, it sounds a bit head, rather than heart choice and the TVR sounds more heart.

I think thing sound good, sounds like they are really sticking to the old recipe, just "remastering" it.

The 911 is a bullet proof everyday sports car with 4 seats. In theory you can't compare it to a dedicated 2 seater weekend sports car such as the new proposed TVR. But the fact the 911 is wheeled out as the opposition against EVERY sports car shows how good it is. Even an unoptioned C2.

The TVR for £90k is going to have to be VERY special. And reliable. It has a lot of competition in that price bracket.

I dont think this objectively, will be anywhere near as good, it is effectively a small startup versus a massive company that has been around a long time and really nail the engineering excellence.

However, I cant see why it wont be good and perhaps offer some things the Porsche cant, the first one being exclusivity, and the other main one, its just so bloody cool, park a 90k Porsche and nobody really notices, turn up in a new TVR and I suspect you would need a Vulcan Bomber to upstage it, plus however fast a run of mill 911 is, it is perhaps a little sanitised, well compared to a TVR ?

Whats the score with ESP ? I thought that was mandatory these days ?

[hardworker]

Yes, yes, and a million times yes.

[pimpchez]

Max_Torque said:

And then show a picture of them putting bending loads into the centre of a tube, and hence having to add an extra gusset to stop it all turning into a jelly...... ;-)

To me that solution is still cheaper and lighter than upping the thickness of the tube 1mm .Actually over that quantity and working for a tube company years ago i know it would still be cheaper to fold and weld that gusset than increasing tube thickness.

Either way surely the better solution would to have altered the upright design to incorporate the gusset as one piece of rolled tube.