Because Estate Car

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carinaman

21,325 posts

173 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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Gerradi said:
craig_m67 said:
Shirley that would be exceeding ones experience... bit rich to blame the car
Why have you written Shirley ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixljWVyPby0

rallycross

12,810 posts

238 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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hyphen said:
Saloons will be quieter than estates you would think? So less road noise if you are doing higher mileage. Plus image.
Interesting you say that one of my pals looking to upgrade his saloon and said the exact thing when I suggest and estate.

More road noise - no, not in a Mercedes or Bmw estate vs saloon noise is the same.
Image - subjective for everyone but to me a saloon = company car where buyer had no choice and forced to take a 4 door, or an old mans car (used to be Rover drivers!)

Then he said longer for parking / often they are the same dimensions.

As for ‘because estate car’ that must have been invented by a teenage moron who was allowed to borrow his parents estate at the weekend!


anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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rallycross said:
hyphen said:
Saloons will be quieter than estates you would think? So less road noise if you are doing higher mileage. Plus image.
Interesting you say that one of my pals looking to upgrade his saloon and said the exact thing when I suggest and estate.

More road noise - no, not in a Mercedes or Bmw estate vs saloon noise is the same.
Image - subjective for everyone but to me a saloon = company car where buyer had no choice and forced to take a 4 door, or an old mans car (used to be Rover drivers!)

Then he said longer for parking / often they are the same dimensions.

As for ‘because estate car’ that must have been invented by a teenage moron who was allowed to borrow his parents estate at the weekend!
To me, a saloon is classier and (I agree I'm in the minority, as every car magazine says the opposite) but look better than estates. It's easy to say saloons are saddled with image problems as you've said, but then so are estates.

Don't get me wrong I'm not averse to them and I would have one - although I've not owned one yet - and I'm not here trolling on an estate thread!

valiant

10,262 posts

161 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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RESSE said:
Our first estate car (after a dreadful ownership 'experience' with a L320 Range Rover Sport banghead).

It is a 2010 C350 model - comfortable, quiet and a very pleasant place to sit on long trips - the recent addition of a roof box will help with all the stuff we take (off to Spain in a couple of weeks (1,300 miles)).

It is the first estate I have owned and I cannot think of a saloon version I would prefer over the practicality of the estate.

I think this was the high point in the C-class estate. Proportions just right and quite tasteful. Later models seem incredibly dull unless you spec bigger wheels and bodykit. A base C-class nowadays is just an amorphous blob. Pity.

p1stonhead

25,564 posts

168 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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valiant said:
RESSE said:
Our first estate car (after a dreadful ownership 'experience' with a L320 Range Rover Sport banghead).

It is a 2010 C350 model - comfortable, quiet and a very pleasant place to sit on long trips - the recent addition of a roof box will help with all the stuff we take (off to Spain in a couple of weeks (1,300 miles)).

It is the first estate I have owned and I cannot think of a saloon version I would prefer over the practicality of the estate.

I think this was the high point in the C-class estate. Proportions just right and quite tasteful. Later models seem incredibly dull unless you spec bigger wheels and bodykit. A base C-class nowadays is just an amorphous blob. Pity.
The C63 version of that estate is just perfect IMO. But with the 5 spoke wheels not the really really bling ones.

Dog Star

16,144 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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PRND said:
To me, a saloon is classier and (I agree I'm in the minority, as every car magazine says the opposite) but look better than estates.
Personal choice - I think estates look better than saloons by a mile, many these days are a slightly less practical slopey back form which looks cool (like a big coupe) and has the benefit of being able to be filled with stuff.

I just don't get saloons. They look poo.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Dog Star said:
Personal choice - I think estates look better than saloons by a mile, many these days are a slightly less practical slopey back form which looks cool (like a big coupe) and has the benefit of being able to be filled with stuff.

I just don't get saloons. They look poo.
Who buys the saloon?

First car = Hatch Back
Second Car = Hot Hatch
Feeling grown up = Coupe
Feeling flush = Hot Coupe
Family car that you can throw mountain bikes etc. in = Fast Estate or SUV
Getting a bit older = Comfy Estate or SUV
Hit your 50s = Porsche
Get to 51 = Comfy estate or SUV which you spend the rest of your days with in various guises.


Saloon = ????
The only people I know with saloons are company car owners.
"Boss can I have a coupe?"
"No, wrong impression."
"OK, I will have an estate or SUV then."
"No you won't, the estate is £50 a month more, you can have a saloon."
"Bugger!"


Castor

79 posts

214 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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p1stonhead said:
The C63 version of that estate is just perfect IMO. But with the 5 spoke wheels not the really really bling ones.




Agreed! - this is mine smile

ghost83

5,479 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Over winter I’m buying a shed mondeo estate to tool around in, going to be my daily run about

When I say shed (12-16 plate as you can get free tax )

giblet

8,860 posts

178 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Castor said:
p1stonhead said:
The C63 version of that estate is just perfect IMO. But with the 5 spoke wheels not the really really bling ones.




Agreed! - this is mine smile
Very nice, looks spot on with the smaller wheels. I need one, dark grey with a valved exhaust.

cerb4.5lee

30,719 posts

181 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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gizlaroc said:
Dog Star said:
Personal choice - I think estates look better than saloons by a mile, many these days are a slightly less practical slopey back form which looks cool (like a big coupe) and has the benefit of being able to be filled with stuff.

I just don't get saloons. They look poo.
Who buys the saloon?

First car = Hatch Back
Second Car = Hot Hatch
Feeling grown up = Coupe
Feeling flush = Hot Coupe
Family car that you can throw mountain bikes etc. in = Fast Estate or SUV
Getting a bit older = Comfy Estate or SUV
Hit your 50s = Porsche
Get to 51 = Comfy estate or SUV which you spend the rest of your days with in various guises.


Saloon = ????
The only people I know with saloons are company car owners.
"Boss can I have a coupe?"
"No, wrong impression."
"OK, I will have an estate or SUV then."
"No you won't, the estate is £50 a month more, you can have a saloon."
"Bugger!"
biggrin

I've had a couple of 3 series saloons and I couldn't see the point of them either. You couldn't carry anything big because the seats didn't fold as standard(yet they did in my M3 Coupe! confused) so they aren't practical. They also look pretty boring and I'd much rather have a Coupe/Estate/SUV/Hatchback for sure.

Downhilluk

10 posts

64 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Castor said:
p1stonhead said:
The C63 version of that estate is just perfect IMO. But with the 5 spoke wheels not the really really bling ones.




Agreed! - this is mine smile
That is absolutely perfect.

I'd love a tansanite blue with light coloured interior, although I think the multispokes suit the car more and make it look like a DTM car.


Have you done anything to it? Looks a nice height in those pics

Castor

79 posts

214 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Downhilluk said:
Castor said:
p1stonhead said:
The C63 version of that estate is just perfect IMO. But with the 5 spoke wheels not the really really bling ones.




Agreed! - this is mine smile
That is absolutely perfect.

I'd love a tansanite blue with light coloured interior, although I think the multispokes suit the car more and make it look like a DTM car.


Have you done anything to it? Looks a nice height in those pics
Standard except for a Quaiffe diff. This is Cavansite blue which is darker than Tansanite - hard to capture a decent picture of it though!

The ride height in the second picture is being influenced by the full load and roof box!!

TG105

50 posts

98 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Castor said:




Agreed! - this is mine smile
That is sublime, congratulations

TG105

50 posts

98 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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I run an 2017 A6 Allroad with 3.0l TDi. It might be the best car I’ve ever owned to date amongst 20 or so.

It’s relatively fast. The air suspension makes it comfier than both the premium SUV’s (Disco & Touareg) I had beforehand. I don’t get the same receiption turning up to see farmers as I did in SUV’s. I can carry a load of stuff and it still looks cool. No going back!

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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gizlaroc said:
Dog Star said:
Personal choice - I think estates look better than saloons by a mile, many these days are a slightly less practical slopey back form which looks cool (like a big coupe) and has the benefit of being able to be filled with stuff.

I just don't get saloons. They look poo.
Who buys the saloon?

First car = Hatch Back
Second Car = Hot Hatch
Feeling grown up = Coupe
Feeling flush = Hot Coupe
Family car that you can throw mountain bikes etc. in = Fast Estate or SUV
Getting a bit older = Comfy Estate or SUV
Hit your 50s = Porsche
Get to 51 = Comfy estate or SUV which you spend the rest of your days with in various guises.


Saloon = ????
The only people I know with saloons are company car owners.
"Boss can I have a coupe?"
"No, wrong impression."
"OK, I will have an estate or SUV then."
"No you won't, the estate is £50 a month more, you can have a saloon."
"Bugger!"
Neither have a great image IMO. Saloons do seem bit middle management, but estates are a bit old man.

CarHabit

95 posts

94 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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DoubleD said:
but estates are a bit old man.
getmecoat

nobrakes

2,985 posts

199 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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TG105 said:
Castor said:




Agreed! - this is mine smile
That is sublime, congratulations
That is a monster motor being used to the max. I’m guessing that’s the queue for the ferry - to the autobahn!

p1stonhead

25,564 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Castor said:
p1stonhead said:
The C63 version of that estate is just perfect IMO. But with the 5 spoke wheels not the really really bling ones.




Agreed! - this is mine smile
Yep! Spot on! Nice to see everyone agrees with me!

waynedear

2,179 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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I had a mk1 Sierra 1.6 in the 80’s.
Couple of days ago I swapped my Bravo for this.....
d5, I have only driven it up and down the street, I’m already smitten.