RE: Shed(s) of the Week: Alfa 166/BMW 5 Series

RE: Shed(s) of the Week: Alfa 166/BMW 5 Series

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BFleming

3,607 posts

143 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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I pick the BMW. All of its panels are the same colour.

sgarland87

3 posts

80 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Even with being an E39 fanboy, have 2 on the driveway at the moment, I would have the Alfa over the 520i. It just appeals on a different level, and has the toys/gadgets whereas the 520i is a really basic spec, you can pick up some really decent examples of an E39, also low mileage I have found on an older car does not equal a better car!

daveco

4,126 posts

207 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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2 GKC said:
Cloth in an E39 is just wrong, as is a 2 litre.
yes

engine feels too underpowered for what it's carrying along and the earlier E39s came with a very heavy throttle pedal which only exacerbated the feeling of full effort momentum.

sinbaddio

2,375 posts

176 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Alfa for me all day long. I had two, firstly a twin spark in 2001, then onto a 3.0 v6 ex demo a year later. I did over 100k in that car in three years and it never missed a beat. Main dealer servicing I seem to recall was a bit expensive, but it was worth it.

Depreciation on the other hand..... I got £2.5k for it when it was three years old rolleyes should have kept it!

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Alfa - V6 & a manual

And if it breaks you can have a beautiful V6 coffee table

Gribs

469 posts

136 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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I'm not sure which I'd pick between a poverty spec E39 and a faulty Alfa. I'm disappointed that with the budget increase this is the best that could be found.

Snubs

1,175 posts

139 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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I'm an Alfa fan and have owned one, but the front end of the 166 is something only a mother could love.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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austinsmirk said:
never understood why ownership by a "doctor" is a good thing.
I was also going to post this. My girlfriend is a doctor and she absolutely loves giving cars a good thrashing.

TroubledSoul

4,600 posts

194 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Generally not a FWD fan but a V6 Alfa vs a lethargic 520 5 Series..... I'd take the Alfa!

boz1

422 posts

178 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Mileage notwithstanding, that 520i is grossly overpriced.
  • It's an old pre-facelift model,
  • It's an undesirable colour
  • It an automatic, which makes it even more dog slow and increases the breakage factor
  • It's low spec
I wouldn't pay over £800 for it.

J4CKO

41,598 posts

200 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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sjabrown said:
The "owned by a doctor" refers to another era.

You can see my fleet on here but my daily runaround is a 2002 Corsavan for my work as a GP
Indeed, the only doctor I know, his cars are generally knackered.

The front on the 166 I think works, though it does look a bit like something from the film the Abyss, the sort of CGI generated watery aliens.

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Cooking E39 for me, perfectly acceptable daily runner. Not the quickest as mentioned, but I still got an indicated 130 out of a German rental one back in the day. Super smooth engine too, and quite comfy

sidewinder500

1,146 posts

94 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Alfa anytime!

Especially considering the drab looks of the BM, small wheels, ugly colour, and it really looks dated now...

The Alfa still has crisp unadorned and unspoiled lines, esp the rear quarter view is still undurpassed in modern machinery, so looks dpt def win hands down.

Even as small faults and niggles appear in every car from that age, to correct these things on the Alfa could be considered a hobby, and are not that much of a pitfall labour or moneywise.
I had mine worked over slowly in two years, was in perfect working order in the end and was sold with a hefty profit, after shelling out shed money (in old money i.e. about 1400 €) first, great car, really.
Only thing is, it was not the most involving drive, the engine is pretty gutless unless revved ( sounds are glorious however), but still ways better than a e39 up to 540, which have been capable (at least at their time) but really uninspiring, m5 may be the exception.

At that time the first fast diesel came around and you got tangled with torque.
I think it was around late nineties, where you could see the writing on the wall: goodbye to nice petrol engines in exec sedans and hello torque monsters which run out of puff at 4500 revs....
O well.

CABC

5,582 posts

101 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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vtecyo said:
I was also going to post this. My girlfriend is a doctor and she absolutely loves giving cars a good thrashing.
does she sell cars as "one careful Lady Doctor"?

waynedear

2,179 posts

167 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Cambs_Stuart said:
The Alfa. Great engine and interior. And I'll accept the fact it may need more tlc than the bmw.
Changed that for you.

MorganP104

2,605 posts

130 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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I've had examples of both the E39 and 166, and I can tell you the choice is a tough one.

What's made it a little easier in this instance is the fact the E39 is a 520i. My E39 (Touring) was a 528i, which possessed a performance potential I would describe as "acceptable". I really wouldn't want to drop the best part of 50bhp.

My 166 was also a V6, and Shed's right - it is a magnificent engine. If you want fuel economy or polar bear-friendly emissions, look elsewhere, but for character, it cannot be beaten. I'd go as far to say that it's the most charismatic V6 ever created.

On balance, given the specs of the Sheds on offer this week, I'd go for the 166.

But if the E39 was a 528i (or bigger), it would be a harder choice to make.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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I like Alfa's but the pre-facelift 166 is hideous. I'd still have it over the vanilla BMW though.

3142robina

2 posts

86 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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My friend Simon will surely buy the Alfa

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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The early 166s whilst nowhere near as nice to look at as the facelifted ones that BM is a fugly frump by comparison.

And what's not to like about a 3 litre Busso V6 with a manual box?

Tri_Doc

572 posts

134 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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SHED said:
Nowadays, with the NHS in tatters and doctors increasingly seen as gaunt-eyed, sleep-deprived sufferers of high-level stress and possibly pretty poor drivers, the value of the 'owned by a Doctor' attribution is less clear. Especially when you remember that an old-fashioned doctor's round (do they still even do them?) would typically have been made up of car-killingly short journeys.
Sounds about right.

And yes, we still do home visits you cheeky sod.