RE: Ford Focus RS Option Pack: Review

RE: Ford Focus RS Option Pack: Review

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tallpaul26

459 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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I've read reports that the WBAC valuations for the RS have returned to sensible levels. Can anyone confirm this?

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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jonm01 said:
PS. WBAC now offering 25k for early 2016 car with 8k miles
That doesn't sound too bad although I've heard of them haggling the price down when you actually go drop the car off.

Private car for sale at 27 with 6k miles currently

carparkno1

1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Starting to get an itch for one of these. We have a Focus titanium that's a year old for family duties with the brilliant 1.0 engine. I have a mk5 GTI and want to change up. Knowing how well the regular car steers it's hard not to want the RS for myself.




IanJ9375

1,468 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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carparkno1 said:
Starting to get an itch for one of these. We have a Focus titanium that's a year old for family duties with the brilliant 1.0 engine. I have a mk5 GTI and want to change up. Knowing how well the regular car steers it's hard not to want the RS for myself.
As an owner I'd suggest you look out for one with the Ford Approved FPM375 kit fitted and if you can get one that has the transferable (5yr) extended warranty all the better.

Fckitdriveon

1,040 posts

91 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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carparkno1 said:
Starting to get an itch for one of these. We have a Focus titanium that's a year old for family duties with the brilliant 1.0 engine. I have a mk5 GTI and want to change up. Knowing how well the regular car steers it's hard not to want the RS for myself.
It’s definitley a buyers market , plenty of choice , why not dive in!



Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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tallpaul26 said:
I've read reports that the WBAC valuations for the RS have returned to sensible levels. Can anyone confirm this?
Not that WBAC valuations mean much but yes, having checked today after your post they are now offering just over £25k again.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Ahbefive said:
Not that WBAC valuations mean much but yes, having checked today after your post they are now offering just over £25k again.
That sounds pretty sensible to me

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
That sounds pretty sensible to me
People could of course actually use the free Ford valuation which is powered by CAP - which is probably of more value than WBAC to be honest lol

https://www.capconnect.co.uk/ConsumerValues/Ford.a...

HumanDoing

540 posts

127 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Bahahaha so when WBAC values are within what you consider acceptable levels, they're accurate. When they're below that, they're not? Nice to fully understand the rules on planet RS.

Even £25k after a year (before inevitable further deductions) puts the car well on track to be worth no more than GFV at end of 3 years (usually set at around £17-18k), rather than the 'yayyyyyyy we're going to be rolling in 10k of profit because look at the MK2' attitude of RS MK3 worshippers on here.

There are seriously still people who think the RS will defy gravity and serve as 'an investment'. We'll see the reality at 3 years when people are in the dealerships zooting their nappies, grown men kicking and screaming on the floor wailing 'but but but the MK2! Monies where are my monies!!!'


FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Bahahaha so when WBAC values are within what you consider acceptable levels, they're accurate. When they're below that, they're not? Nice to fully understand the rules on planet RS.

Even £25k after a year (before inevitable further deductions) puts the car well on track to be worth no more than GFV at end of 3 years (usually set at around £17-18k), rather than the 'yayyyyyyy we're going to be rolling in 10k of profit because look at the MK2' attitude of RS MK3 worshippers on here.

There are seriously still people who think the RS will defy gravity and serve as 'an investment'. We'll see the reality at 3 years when people are in the dealerships zooting their nappies, grown men kicking and screaming on the floor wailing 'but but but the MK2! Monies where are my monies!!!'
I've never thought the mk3 RS would be an investment car , why would it be ?

Lots have fallen into that trap buying M2's at 50k and now used can be had for under 40.

The only real manufacturer who's cars have kept value and overs is Porsche .

That said I think the mk3 RS is a cracking car at at GFV in 3yrs time it may well be 17-18k but it'll be the best 17--18k you've spent

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Bahahaha so when WBAC values are within what you consider acceptable levels, they're accurate. When they're below that, they're not? Nice to fully understand the rules on planet RS.

Even £25k after a year (before inevitable further deductions) puts the car well on track to be worth no more than GFV at end of 3 years (usually set at around £17-18k), rather than the 'yayyyyyyy we're going to be rolling in 10k of profit because look at the MK2' attitude of RS MK3 worshippers on here.

There are seriously still people who think the RS will defy gravity and serve as 'an investment'. We'll see the reality at 3 years when people are in the dealerships zooting their nappies, grown men kicking and screaming on the floor wailing 'but but but the MK2! Monies where are my monies!!!'
Still here, still going full retard it seems....

nickfrog

21,210 posts

218 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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IanJ9375 said:
HumanDoing said:
Bahahaha so when WBAC values are within what you consider acceptable levels, they're accurate. When they're below that, they're not? Nice to fully understand the rules on planet RS.

Even £25k after a year (before inevitable further deductions) puts the car well on track to be worth no more than GFV at end of 3 years (usually set at around £17-18k), rather than the 'yayyyyyyy we're going to be rolling in 10k of profit because look at the MK2' attitude of RS MK3 worshippers on here.

There are seriously still people who think the RS will defy gravity and serve as 'an investment'. We'll see the reality at 3 years when people are in the dealerships zooting their nappies, grown men kicking and screaming on the floor wailing 'but but but the MK2! Monies where are my monies!!!'
Still here, still going full retard it seems....
Indeed. I was going to say that someone has gone very quiet - but look ! I think it's wrong to use the word retard btw. But in this instance it's difficult not to.

He has based his entire "argument" on WBAC giving £19k for it and that this was its market value despite the other online buyers offering £25k+. He was saying that it was the only way to sell it outside the private market, which was blatantly wrong. Many people explained that it's because at that particular moment, WBAC didn't want any FRS.

He has now moved the goal post - inventing arguments that people here never had about it being an investment. He doesn't even own that car.

So is it worth £19k or £25k TODAY ?

And the nappy thing again - very odd that too.




Edited by nickfrog on Thursday 21st September 06:11

carparkno1

1,432 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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I'm not too sure what all the fuss is about investments and people losing money and soiled nappies, it's not a particularly expensive car and I doubt anyone here sees it as an investment that is going to wipe it's nose clean or even make money, especially against the mk2 which came at a very different time in a very different market?

Anyways, the cheapest I can see on AT is 26999, and there are loads at 27500 and thereabouts. Approximately 200 cars total on AT and then I guess each Ford dealer across the country maybe has 1 or 2 at best?

Anyways, I am interested, I like the platform it is built upon enough to consider an uber-fast version.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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I'd definitely want the Mountune 375 fitted .

Questions is why is the 375 and not the 380 covered under the warranty ?

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
I'd definitely want the Mountune 375 fitted .

Questions is why is the 375 and not the 380 covered under the warranty ?
The 375 has been accepted by Ford, tested or whatever you call it and is only installed via Mountune HQ or the Ford dealer network.
M380 is on the m-tune handset so you can install on or off as you like, of course it has more power (remember the quoted figures are peak and not respective of mid range gains). By all accounts the 380 is quicker than 5bhp more for sure.

You can also get the FPM375 via the m-Tune Handet but interestingly this is not warranty approved by Ford (this is mainly for overseas buyers)

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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So can you dial the 380 on and off and it'll be undetectable if there is a problem or will a simple plug in by ford tell them you've used it ?

Liking the idea of a 375 or 380 to use during winter months and not wrecking my 987 spyder .

Don't think I'd clean it either , think they look good all mucky and look like they've been used for purpose :-)?

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
So can you dial the 380 on and off and it'll be undetectable if there is a problem or will a simple plug in by ford tell them you've used it ?

Liking the idea of a 375 or 380 to use during winter months and not wrecking my 987 spyder .

Don't think I'd clean it either , think they look good all mucky and look like they've been used for purpose :-)?
Everything is detectable, if you don't want to enter that grey area stick with the 375 imho.

The 375 is more than enough, the car isn't a one trick pony so it's not about having x amount of power for me

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Agreed. The 375 could also be a good winter track day car as well as lane hooner and a daily .

Going to look at these again in the new year

RacerMike

4,213 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
Agreed. The 375 could also be a good winter track day car as well as lane hooner and a daily .

Going to look at these again in the new year
375 kit makes a big difference. Makes the car properly rapid, and doesn’t make it feel over powered. IMO it feels about right for the chassis.

On track, they’re incredibly quick. Round Silverstone GP, they’ll do a 2min31s on the standard Michelin Supersports, and probably a 2min29s on the Cup2s. To put that in perspective, that would put you at the sharp end of a Caterham Supersport grid.... they’re very, very capable and enjoyable cars.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Bahahaha, I have an obsession with WBAC valuations, nappies and people apparently buying cars as an investment even when nobody actually said that they did.

I wish I could afford one but as I can't I will slate them off as much as possible without having ever driven on. Oh what a sad man I am.
Indeed, very odd.