RE: Ford Focus RS Option Pack: Review

RE: Ford Focus RS Option Pack: Review

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Rat_Fink_67

2,309 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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MrBarry123 said:
If the FRS had wider arches I’d be all over it like mackerel pâté on toast.
I covered in my previous post why the mk3 doesn't have wider arches.

HumanDoing

540 posts

126 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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MrBarry123 said:
On the recent carwow YT video, the FRS did well against the CTR. It got a little bit minced against the A45 and RS3 however that’s expected given their super-whizzy gearboxes and extra boom-boom pow-pow.

If the FRS had wider arches I’d be all over it like mackerel pâté on toast.
Well said yes the arches are one of the major issues with it.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Well said yes the arches are one of the major issues with it.
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The fact Ford have sold more of the MK3 compared to the Mk2 tells you that it's not a major issue for the majority and the real issue is that unless it could be a global car and pushed down the regular production line it would not have been built at all.

Me myself I much prefer the fact the money was spent on the AWD system

phugleigh

141 posts

230 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Major issues???? Consider ourselves lucky....

http://www.thekitchn.com/breaking-the-myth-of-whet...

45 comments of totally relatable mk3 Focus RS life lessons there.

Can pick ( ho ho ) any one, substitute adverbs for shell seat, quaife diff, Renault Megan's, WBAC pricing strategy or what you wish and off you go. Or is it nouns??? Any way,

Here's one:


amanda718 said:
3 years ago
I tried to make carrot top soup a few years ago when I got a ton of carrots and greens in my CSA. After chopping up two bunches of tops, I realized I was allergic to the tops with a nasty rash all over my arms... So while some people might want to use them, I'll pass on it.
Zen moment right there

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

121 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
I covered in my previous post why the mk3 doesn't have wider arches.
I'm aware of the reason however thanks.

jonm01

817 posts

237 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
https://www.whatcar.com/news/best-worst-hot-hatchb...

Whatcar put the Type R as their #1 hot hatch. RS is #2.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/66682/best-...

Autoexpress the same. Doesn't it speak volumes that RS disciples now need to add 'FR cars don't count' to the list of criteria in order to keep the RS at supposed #1 position? It's obvious to all the Megane will be better than both, things move on so quickly. So now Ford are bringing out these essentially peripheral extras to try to keep attention up. It's over, things have moved on, as they inevitably do.

I'm sure the CTR is great but it will be a sales flop as no one likes the look of it. Lets see what price they are in 18 months time..

HumanDoing

540 posts

126 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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jonm01 said:
I'm sure the CTR is great but it will be a sales flop as no one likes the look of it. Lets see what price they are in 18 months time..
Residuals are about the same as the MK3 Focus RS and the idea that 'no one likes the look of it' appears to be a preposterously sweeping statement.

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Well said yes the arches are one of the major issues with it.
In what way? They've sold more of these than any other RS Focus before.........or is that just an opion with no facts to back it up. ( Internet anecdotes don't count, sales figures do)

HumanDoing

540 posts

126 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Car-Matt said:
In what way? They've sold more of these than any other RS Focus before.........or is that just an opion with no facts to back it up. ( Internet anecdotes don't count, sales figures do)
I'm not sure that comparing sales figures on an unlimited MK3 production run to the previously limited runs is completely relevant. Not comparing apples with apples, as they say.

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
I'm not sure that comparing sales figures on an unlimited MK3 production run to the previously limited runs is completely relevant. Not comparing apples with apples, as they say.
Well clearly the arches aren't a problem, or they wouldn't be selling all they can make..........after all, have you seen any brand new FRS Mk3's discounted because they cant sell them?

Me neither


You could say the Fiesta ST has a problem without blistered arches as it looks boring and just like a shopping fiesta........however they sell by the bucket load and are fantastic to drive

HumanDoing

540 posts

126 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Car-Matt said:
after all, have you seen any brand new FRS Mk3's discounted because they cant sell them?
Yes, after the initial hype died down there have been a huge number of reports of dealers having to knock money off to sort out oversupply. That's part of the reason this very thread exists - the tweaks and gimmicks designed to keep flagging interest up. In fact the whole Mk3 market is now based on a delicate balance between people wanting shot of them and not wanting so many to go up as to send values doon pan. The number of MK3s on sale on autotrader is increasing every day for heaven's sake.

liner33

10,691 posts

202 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Yes, after the initial hype died down there have been a huge number of reports of dealers having to knock money off to sort out oversupply. That's part of the reason this very thread exists - the tweaks and gimmicks designed to keep flagging interest up. In fact the whole Mk3 market is now based on a delicate balance between people wanting shot of them and not wanting so many to go up as to send values doon pan. The number of MK3s on sale on autotrader is increasing every day for heaven's sake.
Where are these huge numbers of reports out of interest ?

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Yes, after the initial hype died down there have been a huge number of reports of dealers having to knock money off to sort out oversupply. That's part of the reason this very thread exists - the tweaks and gimmicks designed to keep flagging interest up. In fact the whole Mk3 market is now based on a delicate balance between people wanting shot of them and not wanting so many to go up as to send values doon pan. The number of MK3s on sale on autotrader is increasing every day for heaven's sake.
So no evidence of discounts then....just internet anecdotes.......

Either links to discounts or STFU

CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Car-Matt said:
HumanDoing said:
Yes, after the initial hype died down there have been a huge number of reports of dealers having to knock money off to sort out oversupply. That's part of the reason this very thread exists - the tweaks and gimmicks designed to keep flagging interest up. In fact the whole Mk3 market is now based on a delicate balance between people wanting shot of them and not wanting so many to go up as to send values doon pan. The number of MK3s on sale on autotrader is increasing every day for heaven's sake.
So no evidence of discounts then....just internet anecdotes.......

Either links to discounts or STFU
https://www.carwow.co.uk/deals/Ford/Focus-RS?&Type=HEAD-TERMS&MakeModel=FORD%7CFOCUS-RS&mkwid=sKy7ebqNy_dc&pcrid=188928172040&pkw=%2Bfocus%20%2Brs&pmt=b&network=g&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_keyword=%2Bfocus%20%2Brs&utm_campaign=xNew-Make%3AFord%7CModel%3AFocus_RS%7CMatch%3ABMM&utm_group=Make%3AFord%7CModel%3AFocus_RS%7CType%3AHead_Terms&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzcbcv5zA1gIVwrDtCh3E6gTgEAAYASAAEgLXOvD_BwE

HumanDoing

540 posts

126 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Car-Matt said:
So no evidence of discounts then....just internet anecdotes.......

Either links to discounts or STFU
Carwow now offering discounts of up to £2,000 on a new RS. Google 'RS discounts' and it's the first thing that pops up.

carparkno1

1,432 posts

158 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Car-Matt said:
So no evidence of discounts then....just internet anecdotes.......

Either links to discounts or STFU
Carwow now offering discounts of up to £2,000 on a new RS. Google 'RS discounts' and it's the first thing that pops up.
So the Focus RS has a list price of around £32k, it's been out for 18 months with basically no discount, and now we are seeing discounts of close to 2k - so maybe 6%-7%?

Isn't that really good in the current market?

jonm01

817 posts

237 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Residuals are about the same as the MK3 Focus RS and the idea that 'no one likes the look of it' appears to be a preposterously sweeping statement.
I don't think I've seen anyone on any forum say they like the look of it let alone say they are going to buy one..

It will be a total sales flop.

scottyfocus

153 posts

82 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
A valuable contribution to the intellectual debate.
Hook, line and sinker. Your obviously highly intelligent.

smile

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Carwow now offering discounts of up to £2,000 on a new RS. Google 'RS discounts' and it's the first thing that pops up.
Carwow discount everything

I'm on about DEALER Discounts. If Ford couldn't sell them then there would be big dealer discounts, this has been the way at Ford for 30 years and more.

Your argument that the arches are a problem is only a problem to you in your head. It is not affecting sales. For as many as there are who want wide arches. there are as many who prefers it more subtle. Sales are strong, residuals are strong and dealer discounts are non existent.

Clearly the arches are a problem

liner33

10,691 posts

202 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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carparkno1 said:
So the Focus RS has a list price of around £32k, it's been out for 18 months with basically no discount, and now we are seeing discounts of close to 2k - so maybe 6%-7%?

Isn't that really good in the current market?
Seems pretty good to me, I got more than that off my Octavia 3 years ago from Carwow and I'm getting quotes on a new Superb with discounts of 13.7% (£5379) .