T- Charge (Toxicity Charge) - new London zone entry expense!
Discussion
99dndd said:
TFL Website said:
After 23 October 2017, you have the following options:
Walk, cycle or use public transport - visit our Journey Planner tool
Upgrade your vehicle. In this case, you'll also need to check the forthcoming tighter ULEZ standards
Pay the daily charge
Join a car club - all car club vehicles meet the emission standard.
Walk, cycle or use public transport - visit our Journey Planner tool
Upgrade your vehicle. In this case, you'll also need to check the forthcoming tighter ULEZ standards
Pay the daily charge
Join a car club - all car club vehicles meet the emission standard.
Right, we're all forming a car club then?
jeremyc said:
My 1971 Lotus is apparently exempt.
Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
PC80 said:
Seems my 6.3 litre V8 Dodge Challenger is exempt because it meets the Euro 4 standard. Who knew the Americans were using EU standards in 1969?
And my daily BMW doesn't exist according to the TFL website - or it's been registered abroad. Silly me thinking it was registered here.
Or, the TFL website is a sack of sh*te and many people will be told they don't have to pay the charge, only to be fined later.
If you use the checky by vehicle type option, you'll get this - And my daily BMW doesn't exist according to the TFL website - or it's been registered abroad. Silly me thinking it was registered here.
Or, the TFL website is a sack of sh*te and many people will be told they don't have to pay the charge, only to be fined later.
The VRM checker is probably wrong. If I were to guess, I'd say that when it see's no data for EURO emissions compliance it's returning a pass rather than falling back to registration date.
Pica-Pica said:
I checked my 335d before I bought it, back in January, and Euro 6 is exempt from this charge. Old news really.
I think the trend is that older cars produced under different regs and not in line with Euro4+ will be charged - that said some anomalies are being discussed here. I totally get that not many people drive in central London nor the CC zone, nor are likely to in future, but this will most certainly affect some. As for buses / taxis etc, when you see one of them make a break for it at lights or a junction I do wonder what will become of them in coming months.
I've been told there are plans to roll out hybrid / electric public transport vehicles soon; can't imagine the costs involved in replacing / upgrading fleets like that.
SonicShadow said:
jeremyc said:
My 1971 Lotus is apparently exempt.
Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
PC80 said:
Seems my 6.3 litre V8 Dodge Challenger is exempt because it meets the Euro 4 standard. Who knew the Americans were using EU standards in 1969?
And my daily BMW doesn't exist according to the TFL website - or it's been registered abroad. Silly me thinking it was registered here.
Or, the TFL website is a sack of sh*te and many people will be told they don't have to pay the charge, only to be fined later.
If you use the checky by vehicle type option, you'll get this - And my daily BMW doesn't exist according to the TFL website - or it's been registered abroad. Silly me thinking it was registered here.
Or, the TFL website is a sack of sh*te and many people will be told they don't have to pay the charge, only to be fined later.
The VRM checker is probably wrong. If I were to guess, I'd say that when it see's no data for EURO emissions compliance it's returning a pass rather than falling back to registration date.
Also, my BMW has been on its current registration for 12 months, yet their system doesn't recognise it.
Typical public sector garbage.
SonicShadow said:
jeremyc said:
My 1971 Lotus is apparently exempt.
Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
If you use the checky by vehicle type option, you'll get this - Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
The VRM checker is probably wrong. If I were to guess, I'd say that when it see's no data for EURO emissions compliance it's returning a pass rather than falling back to registration date.
Resolutionary said:
Pica-Pica said:
I checked my 335d before I bought it, back in January, and Euro 6 is exempt from this charge. Old news really.
I think the trend is that older cars produced under different regs and not in line with Euro4+ will be charged - that said some anomalies are being discussed here. I totally get that not many people drive in central London nor the CC zone, nor are likely to in future, but this will most certainly affect some. As for buses / taxis etc, when you see one of them make a break for it at lights or a junction I do wonder what will become of them in coming months.
I've been told there are plans to roll out hybrid / electric public transport vehicles soon; can't imagine the costs involved in replacing / upgrading fleets like that.
"Silver/Aluminium FORD PUMA THUNDER
You are subject to the T-Charge.
From 23 October 2017 if you travel in the Congestion Charge zone 07:00-18:00 Monday to Friday, you will be charged £10 a day in addition to the Congestion Charge.
This is because your vehicle does not meet the Euro 4 / IV standard (Euro 3 if you checked a motorised tricycle or quadricycle)."
It's rare I drive into London anyway, but clearly if I drive into the zone outside of the hours shown my car suddenly becomes non-polluting and non-toxic!
You are subject to the T-Charge.
From 23 October 2017 if you travel in the Congestion Charge zone 07:00-18:00 Monday to Friday, you will be charged £10 a day in addition to the Congestion Charge.
This is because your vehicle does not meet the Euro 4 / IV standard (Euro 3 if you checked a motorised tricycle or quadricycle)."
It's rare I drive into London anyway, but clearly if I drive into the zone outside of the hours shown my car suddenly becomes non-polluting and non-toxic!
SonicShadow said:
Pica-Pica said:
SonicShadow said:
Semi related -
Not much aluminium on an MR2!
But is there Aloo-min-umNot much aluminium on an MR2!
capital n for Nippon (pronounced Ni-hon)
MikeT66 said:
"Silver/Aluminium FORD PUMA THUNDER
You are subject to the T-Charge.
From 23 October 2017 if you travel in the Congestion Charge zone 07:00-18:00 Monday to Friday, you will be charged £10 a day in addition to the Congestion Charge.
This is because your vehicle does not meet the Euro 4 / IV standard (Euro 3 if you checked a motorised tricycle or quadricycle)."
It's rare I drive into London anyway, but clearly if I drive into the zone outside of the hours shown my car suddenly becomes non-polluting and non-toxic!
Well, it pollutes fewer fauna and flora.You are subject to the T-Charge.
From 23 October 2017 if you travel in the Congestion Charge zone 07:00-18:00 Monday to Friday, you will be charged £10 a day in addition to the Congestion Charge.
This is because your vehicle does not meet the Euro 4 / IV standard (Euro 3 if you checked a motorised tricycle or quadricycle)."
It's rare I drive into London anyway, but clearly if I drive into the zone outside of the hours shown my car suddenly becomes non-polluting and non-toxic!
PC80 said:
There's a clear danger that some people will use the VRM checker, and be told that their car is ok. Then get a nice little fine in the post. Bound to happen. Why would you use the "check by type" option if the VRM worked? They need to sort out that loop hole.
Also, my BMW has been on its current registration for 12 months, yet their system doesn't recognise it.
Typical public sector garbage.
There is. Just entered a Triumph Stag reg as I had a photo of one, same result, it states exempt. There is a disclaimer at the bottom - Also, my BMW has been on its current registration for 12 months, yet their system doesn't recognise it.
Typical public sector garbage.
Disclaimer
The compliance status of your vehicle for the T-Charge has been calculated based on the information you provided. It is your responsibility to ensure the information you provide is accurate. Every effort is made to ensure that the information we provide you is correct at the date of our response. However, we provide no warranty as to the accuracy of the information and accept no legal liability or responsibility for its accuracy. If you are in any doubt over your vehicle's Euro emission standard, please refer to your vehicle registration document - also known as a V5C - or contact your vehicle manufacturer.
Don't know if I'd want to risk it just because the checker stated it's exempt!
jeremyc said:
My 1971 Lotus is apparently exempt.
Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
The following are exempt from paying the T-Charge:Clearly no toxicity problems with that, or maybe it's because it was built before we joined the EU.
London licensed Taxis and Private Hire Vehicles
Emergency service vehicles such as ambulances, fire engines, NHS vehicles and Ministry of Defence vehicles
Commercial vehicles built before 1973
Vehicles with a historic tax class (40 years and older).
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