RE: MY18 Nissan 370Z announced

[awlp16]

I bloomin' love mine. Had it just over a year, and wouldn't of bought anything else.

I think it didn't, and continues to not sell well as it's expensive to run/tax vs. anything else that most people would compare it to for around the same money.

[zeeboy]

daemon said:

SarGara said:

Will Renault even allow Nissan to produce another Z car, or will Infiniti and its auto-only offerings be all that remains for the future?

Was there not some talk of a weird crossover replacing this? I cant see there being a direct replacement.

The crossover thing was a bit of Nissan misdirection, combined with people jumping to the wrong conclusions - it's definitely not a Z replacement. As I said earlier, if the rumour is true, we may well see a Z replacement concept in just under 8 weeks time, when the Tokyo Motor Show takes place.

That amazing finance deal on new base model 370Z's (see an earlier post) reinforces my belief that Nissan are clearing their stocks of 370's in preparation for the announcement of a new model. What a bargain these cars are! £27.5k for all that motor! That's virtually the same price as a new 350z in 2004!!!

I appreciate what others have said about £500 a year VED putting them off, but I know there will be many people on Pistonheads (me included) who accept that sometimes you have to pay for your pleasures. £9.50 a week is no more than 2 bottles of cheap red wine and as I don't drink anything except petrol........

Edited by zeeboy on Friday 1st September 10:11

[CraigyMc]

zeeboy said:

daemon said:

SarGara said:

Will Renault even allow Nissan to produce another Z car, or will Infiniti and its auto-only offerings be all that remains for the future?

Was there not some talk of a weird crossover replacing this? I cant see there being a direct replacement.

The crossover thing was a bit of Nissan misdirection, combined with people jumping to the wrong conclusions - it's definitely not a Z replacement. As I said earlier, if the rumour is true, we may well see a Z replacement concept in just under 4 weeks time, when the Tokyo Motor Show takes place.

That amazing finance deal on new base model 370Z's (see an earlier post) reinforces my belief that Nissan are clearing their stocks of 370's in preparation for the announcement of a new model. What a bargain these cars are! £27.5k for all that motor! That's virtually the same price as a new 350z in 2004!!!

I appreciate what others have said about £500 a year VED putting them off, but I know there will be many people on Pistonheads (me included) who accept that sometimes you have to pay for your pleasures. £9.50 a week is no more than 2 bottles of cheap red wine and as I don't drink anything except petrol........

The thing is, it's not even a £500 bill unless you're comparing it with zero VED. If you're talking about a modern equivalent at £140, the actual extra is only £360 a year.

If £360 a year is a lot of money to a prospective buyer they should be looking elsewhere.

[liner33]

Mr Tidy said:

Depreciation - well I had my first Z4 Coupe for 2 years and sold it for a bit more than I paid! Seems OK to me. (Can you do that with a 350Z)?

I doubt insurance is much different, nor servicing or tyres.

Fuel I really don't know - my current Z4C is showing 34 mpg on the OBC. Do 350Zs get that? (Doubtful given their CO2 emissions)!

Credit is a non-issue - I just bought it (if you can't pay for it, you can't afford it IMO).

Potential benefits of a 350Z seemed to be a factory-fit LSD, but the downside is they are lardy.

I bought my 350z HR in 2013 for £8750 , they are still advertised for that and a little more

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

No idea why I think the 370z is a much better car all round and thats partly why I traded the 350z for one after a few months

You can get 34mpg out of the 370z if you drive like a vicar on sunday but around 26-28mpg average is more typical

[zeeboy]

CraigyMc said:

The thing is, it's not even a £500 bill unless you're comparing it with zero VED. If you're talking about a modern equivalent at £140, the actual extra is only £360 a year.

If £360 a year is a lot of money to a prospective buyer they should be looking elsewhere.

You're absolutely right, of course.

The 370Z has been the car world's Van Gogh for nearly 10 years now - people are only starting to see how great it is as it's passing into history.



ps - apologies - in my last post I got the Tokyo Car Show wrong - it's in 8 weeks, not 4 (always been bad at maths)

[Dazed and Confused]

Mr Tidy said:

CraigyMc said:

Mr Tidy said:

CraigyMc said:

Is this a wind-up, or do people genuinely buy cars based on VED amounts?

Well I did take it into account - I'm retired so budget comes into the factors under consideration!

Probably not an issue for the PH powerfully-built company directors of course........!

Other things that are factors: depreciation, insurance, servicing, tyres, fuel. Credit costs if you're not paying upfront. All of those are going to be generally bigger costs than VED.

Depreciation - well I had my first Z4 Coupe for 2 years and sold it for a bit more than I paid! Seems OK to me. (Can you do that with a 350Z)?

I doubt insurance is much different, nor servicing or tyres.

Fuel I really don't know - my current Z4C is showing 34 mpg on the OBC. Do 350Zs get that? (Doubtful given their CO2 emissions)!

Credit is a non-issue - I just bought it (if you can't pay for it, you can't afford it IMO).

Potential benefits of a 350Z seemed to be a factory-fit LSD, but the downside is they are lardy.

Are you rather small?

Tried a Z4C once and found it totally lacking in interior space.

[CABC]

always wanted to love the Z and have taken the opportunity to drive both models a few times. It's great that it exists, and it's great value.
My wish list for MY18 is:
- more life in the suspension
- little more sound insulation (love the engine but less road/wind)
- a little weight reduction a la skyactiv
- some improvement to cabin quality

I see it as a sporty GT car that enjoys flowing B roads. In that case i'd like a bit more refinement for longer journeys. I want raw in a pure sports car. last one i drove had the rev match feature. it worked wonderfully but i would never use it!

[stuckmojo]

I always liked these. Nowadays they might seem a bit old fashioned (someone above says "muscle car").

Their only competitor in the UK is probably the Mustang 5.0

[chow pan toon]

liner33 said:

I bought my 350z HR in 2013 for £8750 , they are still advertised for that and a little more

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

No idea why I think the 370z is a much better car all round and thats partly why I traded the 350z for one after a few months

You can get 34mpg out of the 370z if you drive like a vicar on sunday but around 26-28mpg average is more typical

What are the major differences if you don't mind explaining? I am currently enjoying my 350Z HR (especially after my first ever track day last week!). I would be interested to hear the experience of someone who has gone from one to the other.

[liner33]

chow pan toon said:

hat are the major differences if you don't mind explaining? I am currently enjoying my 350Z HR (especially after my first ever track day last week!). I would be interested to hear the experience of someone who has gone from one to the other.

More grip (wider tyres), better suspension, much better brakes, nicer and better equipped cabin (No cassete player!), bit more power

Downsides , seats not as comfy, ride bit choppy due to low profile tyres, shows wear easier as plastics and carpets wear really quickly. Boot is about 1/2 the useful size of the 350z

[chow pan toon]

Thanks very much

[cuprabob]

zeeboy said:

daemon said:

SarGara said:

Will Renault even allow Nissan to produce another Z car, or will Infiniti and its auto-only offerings be all that remains for the future?

Was there not some talk of a weird crossover replacing this? I cant see there being a direct replacement.

The crossover thing was a bit of Nissan misdirection, combined with people jumping to the wrong conclusions - it's definitely not a Z replacement. As I said earlier, if the rumour is true, we may well see a Z replacement concept in just under 8 weeks time, when the Tokyo Motor Show takes place.

That amazing finance deal on new base model 370Z's (see an earlier post) reinforces my belief that Nissan are clearing their stocks of 370's in preparation for the announcement of a new model. What a bargain these cars are! £27.5k for all that motor! That's virtually the same price as a new 350z in 2004!!!

I appreciate what others have said about £500 a year VED putting them off, but I know there will be many people on Pistonheads (me included) who accept that sometimes you have to pay for your pleasures. £9.50 a week is no more than 2 bottles of cheap red wine and as I don't drink anything except petrol........

Edited by zeeboy on Friday 1st September 10:11

If you buy a 370Z registered on or after 1/4/17 then the VED is £140. I assume you are talking about buying an older one with the £500+ VED?

[WCZ]

r11co said:

Pah. Focus ST is faster.

it really isn't though is it
the 370z is the best value new sports car on sale by far

[cuprabob]

WCZ said:

r11co said:

Pah. Focus ST is faster.

it really isn't though is it
the 370z is the best value new sports car on sale by far

The Focus ST thing is an "in" joke based around a previous PH thread

[minipower]

Dazed and Confused said:

Mr Tidy said:

CraigyMc said:

Mr Tidy said:

CraigyMc said:

Is this a wind-up, or do people genuinely buy cars based on VED amounts?

Well I did take it into account - I'm retired so budget comes into the factors under consideration!

Probably not an issue for the PH powerfully-built company directors of course........!

Other things that are factors: depreciation, insurance, servicing, tyres, fuel. Credit costs if you're not paying upfront. All of those are going to be generally bigger costs than VED.

Depreciation - well I had my first Z4 Coupe for 2 years and sold it for a bit more than I paid! Seems OK to me. (Can you do that with a 350Z)?

I doubt insurance is much different, nor servicing or tyres.

Fuel I really don't know - my current Z4C is showing 34 mpg on the OBC. Do 350Zs get that? (Doubtful given their CO2 emissions)!

Credit is a non-issue - I just bought it (if you can't pay for it, you can't afford it IMO).

Potential benefits of a 350Z seemed to be a factory-fit LSD, but the downside is they are lardy.

Are you rather small?

Tried a Z4C once and found it totally lacking in interior space.

Another benefit of the 350z is ok steering feel which is non-existent in the Z4c.

[r11co]

cuprabob said:

WCZ said:

r11co said:

Pah. Focus ST is faster.

it really isn't though is it
the 370z is the best value new sports car on sale by far

The Focus ST thing is an "in" joke based around a previous PH thread

Several PH threads (thanks to the character who originally made the statement trying to cover his tracks).

[J4CKO]

CraigyMc said:

zeeboy said:

daemon said:

SarGara said:

Will Renault even allow Nissan to produce another Z car, or will Infiniti and its auto-only offerings be all that remains for the future?

Was there not some talk of a weird crossover replacing this? I cant see there being a direct replacement.

The crossover thing was a bit of Nissan misdirection, combined with people jumping to the wrong conclusions - it's definitely not a Z replacement. As I said earlier, if the rumour is true, we may well see a Z replacement concept in just under 4 weeks time, when the Tokyo Motor Show takes place.

That amazing finance deal on new base model 370Z's (see an earlier post) reinforces my belief that Nissan are clearing their stocks of 370's in preparation for the announcement of a new model. What a bargain these cars are! £27.5k for all that motor! That's virtually the same price as a new 350z in 2004!!!

I appreciate what others have said about £500 a year VED putting them off, but I know there will be many people on Pistonheads (me included) who accept that sometimes you have to pay for your pleasures. £9.50 a week is no more than 2 bottles of cheap red wine and as I don't drink anything except petrol........

The thing is, it's not even a £500 bill unless you're comparing it with zero VED. If you're talking about a modern equivalent at £140, the actual extra is only £360 a year.

If £360 a year is a lot of money to a prospective buyer they should be looking elsewhere.

Absolutely, I think for a lot they cant get past that 500 and it is true that its not £500, its whatever extra on top of the next cheapest VED for something you would actually want to drive, and nothing zero VED really jumps out as a must have performance car, it isnt until £250 plus you get anything spicy appearing.

Would like to try a 370Z, I enjoyed my 350Z but always felt it needed a bit more power to live up to expectations, maybe the extra in a 370Z makes enough difference ?

[liner33]

J4CKO said:

Would like to try a 370Z, I enjoyed my 350Z but always felt it needed a bit more power to live up to expectations, maybe the extra in a 370Z makes enough difference ?

Its about the same you get from a remap on either so hardly night or day . They are fun with a supercharger kit but even then leaves you wanting

[Tuvra]

Dazed and Confused said:

Nice. When is the electric version out?

I'm guessing this was tongue in cheek, however, I think Nissan could really run with this concept.

Basically a reasonably lightweight (by today's standards) car with some proper electrical go and a well set up chassis. Imagine it, 0-60 4 seconds, 150mph and sub £35k:-

[Bobrick]

Love mine, 5000 miles since April, can't fault it.