RE: MY18 Nissan 370Z announced
Discussion
J4CKO said:
Would like to try a 370Z, I enjoyed my 350Z but always felt it needed a bit more power to live up to expectations, maybe the extra in a 370Z makes enough difference ?
In 2012 I went from a 296hp 350Z (2006 Uprev model) to a 326hp 370Z (2010 model) and was very pleasantly surprised at how much more powerful and speedy it felt.I'd recommend that you have a go in one - it's quite different.
In addition to the power hike, the interior is miles better. 2010+ cars come with the Connect Premium stereo/nav system, which is excellent, but don't expect DAB radio.
liner33 said:
J4CKO said:
Would like to try a 370Z, I enjoyed my 350Z but always felt it needed a bit more power to live up to expectations, maybe the extra in a 370Z makes enough difference ?
Its about the same you get from a remap on either so hardly night or day . They are fun with a supercharger kit but even then leaves you wanting Bought my CLS, another 86 bhp, 2 more cylinders, but heavier and the complete polar opposite, very little noise, just this solid shove in the back that builds, you get some noise but not much, it feels night and day faster, and I didn't expect it to based on maybe 2 secs quicker to 100, feels like it would utterly annihilate the 350Z, I think its perhaps the 350Z wasnt as quick as it said on paper and this is maybe a bit quicker.
Thought I may miss the 350, have not in the slightest, ok, maybe on a nice day with the roof down...
Loved my 370, lowered it, stuck Berk HFCs, Stillen CAI, Fast Intentions Exhaust on it and it completely changed the car. Not even sure why I sold it, I just fancied a change after 5 years of ownership. I got lured in by German cars, CSL, so not completely dull. I still have a lot of love for the Z cars though and have a 260z which is being restored. Part of me would love to see the Z cars retain that analogue feel that seems somewhat outdated by today's standards, as previous people have mentioned, people will realise how good the 370 is when it's no longer in production.
CraigyMc said:
Is this a wind-up, or do people genuinely buy cars based on VED amounts?
I know !!!! I couldn't believe people discount owning a car because it's VED will be £200 more than an other, when the BIG things to think about will be depreciation, servicing and replacement parts (along with reliability/component failures), and, depending on your mileage, fuel consumption, and, maybe, insurance...Buy the car you really, really, really like and can afford to buy - the VED cost difference would never enter into any of my calculations, unless we're talking about a VED of £1000+ where you just feel ripped off and would resent paying it !
MrGeoff said:
...people will realise how good the 370 is when it's no longer in production.
Over at Road & Track, one columnist has stated the very same thing:"Just like the song says, however, you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone. The minute you can't walk into a showroom and pay Toyota Camry money to get a bona fide two-seat sports car with a big-bore six and forged alloy wheels, the enthusiast world is going to let out a collective moan that will be heard from the forums to the Saturday-morning meetups."
Tuvra said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Nice. When is the electric version out?
I'm guessing this was tongue in cheek, however, I think Nissan could really run with this concept.Basically a reasonably lightweight (by today's standards) car with some proper electrical go and a well set up chassis. Imagine it, 0-60 4 seconds, 150mph and sub £35k:-
The rumour is that Nissan may replace the 370 with a Z car that has 3 variants (the last of which goes some way towards your dream)...
1. The entry level powerplant is rumoured to be a tweaked version of Nissan’s in-house developed 3.0-litre V6 engine producing 304bhp (based on the Infiniti Q60’s FR-L platform).
2. Then we have a rumoured 3.0-litre V6 bi-turbo that will punch out 405bhp and 475Nm of torque. Power will be transmitted through a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission.
3. A 3rd, flagship version, would employ the same 3.0-litre V6 paired with a 160bhp electric motor for a combined 500bhp output.
The only worry I have is that I doubt the 3rd option will fulfil your 'sub £35k' criterion.
Depending on the prices, either (2) or (3) would tempt me to sell the 370.
zeeboy said:
Your dream may have legs.
The rumour is that Nissan may replace the 370 with a Z car that has 3 variants (the last of which goes some way towards your dream)...
1. The entry level powerplant is rumoured to be a tweaked version of Nissan’s in-house developed 3.0-litre V6 engine producing 304bhp (based on the Infiniti Q60’s FR-L platform).
2. Then we have a rumoured 3.0-litre V6 bi-turbo that will punch out 405bhp and 475Nm of torque. Power will be transmitted through a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission.
3. A 3rd, flagship version, would employ the same 3.0-litre V6 paired with a 160bhp electric motor for a combined 500bhp output.
The only worry I have is that I doubt the 3rd option will fulfil your 'sub £35k' criterion.
Depending on the prices, either (2) or (3) would tempt me to sell the 370.
Option one actually seems to be the more appealing one in my book, provided the manual box was still provided, the NA option would be my preference. The rumour is that Nissan may replace the 370 with a Z car that has 3 variants (the last of which goes some way towards your dream)...
1. The entry level powerplant is rumoured to be a tweaked version of Nissan’s in-house developed 3.0-litre V6 engine producing 304bhp (based on the Infiniti Q60’s FR-L platform).
2. Then we have a rumoured 3.0-litre V6 bi-turbo that will punch out 405bhp and 475Nm of torque. Power will be transmitted through a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission.
3. A 3rd, flagship version, would employ the same 3.0-litre V6 paired with a 160bhp electric motor for a combined 500bhp output.
The only worry I have is that I doubt the 3rd option will fulfil your 'sub £35k' criterion.
Depending on the prices, either (2) or (3) would tempt me to sell the 370.
zeeboy said:
Your dream may have legs.
The rumour is that Nissan may replace the 370 with a Z car that has 3 variants (the last of which goes some way towards your dream)...
1. The entry level powerplant is rumoured to be a tweaked version of Nissan’s in-house developed 3.0-litre V6 engine producing 304bhp (based on the Infiniti Q60’s FR-L platform).
2. Then we have a rumoured 3.0-litre V6 bi-turbo that will punch out 405bhp and 475Nm of torque. Power will be transmitted through a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission.
3. A 3rd, flagship version, would employ the same 3.0-litre V6 paired with a 160bhp electric motor for a combined 500bhp output.
The only worry I have is that I doubt the 3rd option will fulfil your 'sub £35k' criterion.
Depending on the prices, either (2) or (3) would tempt me to sell the 370.
I'm sceptical.The rumour is that Nissan may replace the 370 with a Z car that has 3 variants (the last of which goes some way towards your dream)...
1. The entry level powerplant is rumoured to be a tweaked version of Nissan’s in-house developed 3.0-litre V6 engine producing 304bhp (based on the Infiniti Q60’s FR-L platform).
2. Then we have a rumoured 3.0-litre V6 bi-turbo that will punch out 405bhp and 475Nm of torque. Power will be transmitted through a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission.
3. A 3rd, flagship version, would employ the same 3.0-litre V6 paired with a 160bhp electric motor for a combined 500bhp output.
The only worry I have is that I doubt the 3rd option will fulfil your 'sub £35k' criterion.
Depending on the prices, either (2) or (3) would tempt me to sell the 370.
1. Would possibly be underwhelming with less power than the existing 370Z, and less than the last of the line 350Zs. Probably the only version that could be less than 35k.
2. Nissan already have a twin turbo V6 car with a dual clutch gearbox. I can't see RWD alone being reason enough for building this.
3. As seen in the new Honda NSX, a twin turbo V6 car with dual clutch box combined with electric motors is very heavy. Only this would likely be heavier still as less exotic materials would be used assuming a lower price point. It would either be an 1800kg+ bloater or extremely expensive.
Olivera said:
I'm sceptical.
1. Would possibly be underwhelming with less power than the existing 370Z, and less than the last of the line 350Zs. Probably the only version that could be less than 35k.
2. Nissan already have a twin turbo V6 car with a dual clutch gearbox. I can't see RWD alone being reason enough for building this.
3. As seen in the new Honda NSX, a twin turbo V6 car with dual clutch box combined with electric motors is very heavy. Only this would likely be heavier still as less exotic materials would be used assuming a lower price point. It would either be an 1800kg+ bloater or extremely expensive.
You may be right, but I don't think you are - we'll see in a few weeks time. If the car in your 2nd point is the Infiniti Q60, it's rear wheel drive too, but it's only 300bhp and it's a 4 seat saloon, so it's not in the same territory as a new Z, but if you're referring to the GT-R you've got to be kidding - it's a sub 3 second, £85k+ monster these days and wouldn't compare in any way to my 2nd rumour. What is this unnamed car you're talking about?1. Would possibly be underwhelming with less power than the existing 370Z, and less than the last of the line 350Zs. Probably the only version that could be less than 35k.
2. Nissan already have a twin turbo V6 car with a dual clutch gearbox. I can't see RWD alone being reason enough for building this.
3. As seen in the new Honda NSX, a twin turbo V6 car with dual clutch box combined with electric motors is very heavy. Only this would likely be heavier still as less exotic materials would be used assuming a lower price point. It would either be an 1800kg+ bloater or extremely expensive.
We'll see.
zeeboy said:
Olivera said:
I'm sceptical.
1. Would possibly be underwhelming with less power than the existing 370Z, and less than the last of the line 350Zs. Probably the only version that could be less than 35k.
2. Nissan already have a twin turbo V6 car with a dual clutch gearbox. I can't see RWD alone being reason enough for building this.
3. As seen in the new Honda NSX, a twin turbo V6 car with dual clutch box combined with electric motors is very heavy. Only this would likely be heavier still as less exotic materials would be used assuming a lower price point. It would either be an 1800kg+ bloater or extremely expensive.
You may be right, but I don't think you are - we'll see in a few weeks time. If the car in your 2nd point is the Infiniti Q60, it's rear wheel drive too, but it's only 300bhp and it's a 4 seat saloon, so it's not in the same territory as a new Z, but if you're referring to the GT-R you've got to be kidding - it's a sub 3 second, £85k+ monster these days and wouldn't compare in any way to my 2nd rumour. What is this unnamed car you're talking about?1. Would possibly be underwhelming with less power than the existing 370Z, and less than the last of the line 350Zs. Probably the only version that could be less than 35k.
2. Nissan already have a twin turbo V6 car with a dual clutch gearbox. I can't see RWD alone being reason enough for building this.
3. As seen in the new Honda NSX, a twin turbo V6 car with dual clutch box combined with electric motors is very heavy. Only this would likely be heavier still as less exotic materials would be used assuming a lower price point. It would either be an 1800kg+ bloater or extremely expensive.
We'll see.
Dan Trent said:
CraigyMc said:
Is this a wind-up, or do people genuinely buy cars based on VED amounts?
Well it partly explains my 'logic' of spending c. £10K on a Forester STI, which is about double what an equivalent UK 2.5 XT would have cost. But the VED is half as much so I'm saving money EVERY YEAR! And the six-speed gearbox means I get better mpg too. #manmaths and all that.Dan
Put two less items in your grocery shopping every week/cut out the Starbucks coffee every week and you'll have the cost of the VED and then some to spare.
I suppose the only thing good thing about being disabled is, I get free VED. I did look at the 370Z but access was a problem, so bought an FK2 instead.
Edited by mp3manager on Saturday 2nd September 12:31
Dazed and Confused said:
Mr Tidy said:
CraigyMc said:
Mr Tidy said:
CraigyMc said:
Is this a wind-up, or do people genuinely buy cars based on VED amounts?
Well I did take it into account - I'm retired so budget comes into the factors under consideration!Probably not an issue for the PH powerfully-built company directors of course........!
(Can you do that with a 350Z)?I doubt insurance is much different, nor servicing or tyres.
Fuel I really don't know - my current Z4C is showing 34 mpg on the OBC. Do 350Zs get that? (Doubtful given their CO2 emissions)!
Credit is a non-issue - I just bought it (if you can't pay for it, you can't afford it IMO).
Potential benefits of a 350Z seemed to be a factory-fit LSD, but the downside is they are lardy.
Tried a Z4C once and found it totally lacking in interior space.
Mr Tidy said:
I may well be as I fit a Z4C just fine - are you lardy? Like the Nissans?
I think you're being particularly unfair on the Nissan there. Granted its heavier than a Z4C but we're talking here about a current production car, not one they stopped making 9 years ago. No coupe with a 3.7 litre engine strapped under the bonnet is going to be a lightweight so whilst the engine brings weight, i'd rather that in a sports coupe than some weasy four pot with a turbo strapped on it thats seems to be the way these days.I would ask whats the kerb weight and price of BMWs equivalent new car but of course they dont currently have one. The most recent variant with similar power would have been the Z4 35i and i dont recall it being a lightweight....
We ran a Z4C 3.0Si coupe for 3 years from new "back in the day" and more recently ran a 370Z GT for 2 years.
Loved both cars in different ways.
"Nissan won’t replace its 370Z sports car any time soon, and it certainly won’t be revealing a seventh-generation Z-car at this year’s Tokyo motor show in October."
Says this new article in Motoring.
The silver lining, of course, is that we can expect pricing to remain keen. I'll be happy if Nissan continue the 370z for another couple of years, adding bits and bobs of value along the way.
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