RE: Vauxhall Astra VXR: Spotted
Discussion
HJMS123 said:
'The F40 is cast in aluminum, and weighs 124 pounds (56.2 kg). It has been certified for up to 295 ft-lb ( 400 Nm) of engine torque.'
Not ideal that the Astra is pushing the gearbox to it's limit even when they're standard
This is pretty normal in applications - an engineer will explain whether the rating is for internal torque measurement or whether it's constant rating or something like that (which obviously the car doesn't generate at a constant)Not ideal that the Astra is pushing the gearbox to it's limit even when they're standard
QuattroDave said:
They're not plastic on my BMW and being a mass producer that immediately debunks your 99%.
Even if many do these in particular flexed like your average takeaway tub - so yes, a marker of quality.
How old is your BMW then as the most popular current model is plastic for sure?Even if many do these in particular flexed like your average takeaway tub - so yes, a marker of quality.
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http://www.headlight-headlamp.com/BMW-3Series-F30-...
IanJ9375 said:
QuattroDave said:
They're not plastic on my BMW and being a mass producer that immediately debunks your 99%.
Even if many do these in particular flexed like your average takeaway tub - so yes, a marker of quality.
How old is your BMW then as the most popular current model is plastic for sure?Even if many do these in particular flexed like your average takeaway tub - so yes, a marker of quality.
"If your BMW 3Series F30 F31 F35 F80 F34 F35 original factory OEM Headlight Lens Cover Plastic Lenses Glasses have problems, like been Yellowish Scratched Lenses Crack, Cracked, Broken or have fading, faded and fogging, foggy, haze, aging etc. "
http://www.headlight-headlamp.com/BMW-3Series-F30-...
HJMS123 said:
'The F40 is cast in aluminum, and weighs 124 pounds (56.2 kg). It has been certified for up to 295 ft-lb ( 400 Nm) of engine torque.'
Not ideal that the Astra is pushing the gearbox to it's limit even when they're standard
I stand corrected. I was told that it was the same box as the older VXR and they appear quite troublesome. Is the engine the same as in the older model? I know a few people with tuned VXRs (albeit slightly older ones) and they seem to have to fit uprated rods and the like if you go beyond much more than remap. One lad appears to have spent a blinkin' fortune to get his Corsa VXR to 300bhp, while a Fiesta ST will take much more than that without splitting the engine.Not ideal that the Astra is pushing the gearbox to it's limit even when they're standard
speedtwelve said:
Like QuattroDave I had fun hoofing one of these around Thruxton on a VXR day last year. I'm not really a hot-hatch person, but the overall grip, turn-in and traction with LSD was stonkingly good even though it was chucking it down. It felt like it had loads of go as well, even though I had a Monaro VXR at the time. As mentioned above though, it had absolutely no steering feel. It was all grip and go, not much feedback to it. Very easy to drive fast on a wet track though.
I agree it's a looker as well. Seems the VXR trackdays are defunct now. £30 for an hour in a Corsa, Astra or Insignia VXR was a steal (no VXR8 though).
Those VXR days were great fun ( and good value ) imo - the high point was the Corsa Nurburgring for me - really engaging car at OultonI agree it's a looker as well. Seems the VXR trackdays are defunct now. £30 for an hour in a Corsa, Astra or Insignia VXR was a steal (no VXR8 though).
(I had an "ugly" 1 Series for over 6 years, but really liked it). s m said:
Those VXR days were great fun ( and good value ) imo - the high point was the Corsa Nurburgring for me - really engaging car at Oulton
The Nurburgring corsa sounded great and was fun around Thruxton too. Once I was competent enough I was able to drive beyond the corsa and eventually stretch the astra. Really wish Vauxhall would kick off those VXR days again especially as the latest insignia is a corker of a car (by looks if nothing else).QuattroDave said:
s m said:
Those VXR days were great fun ( and good value ) imo - the high point was the Corsa Nurburgring for me - really engaging car at Oulton
The Nurburgring corsa sounded great and was fun around Thruxton too. Once I was competent enough I was able to drive beyond the corsa and eventually stretch the astra. Really wish Vauxhall would kick off those VXR days again especially as the latest insignia is a corker of a car (by looks if nothing else).s m said:
QuattroDave said:
s m said:
Those VXR days were great fun ( and good value ) imo - the high point was the Corsa Nurburgring for me - really engaging car at Oulton
The Nurburgring corsa sounded great and was fun around Thruxton too. Once I was competent enough I was able to drive beyond the corsa and eventually stretch the astra. Really wish Vauxhall would kick off those VXR days again especially as the latest insignia is a corker of a car (by looks if nothing else).Tom Chilton took me for a wee spin on a hot lap. Top guy
Jon_S_Rally said:
I stand corrected. I was told that it was the same box as the older VXR and they appear quite troublesome. Is the engine the same as in the older model? I know a few people with tuned VXRs (albeit slightly older ones) and they seem to have to fit uprated rods and the like if you go beyond much more than remap. One lad appears to have spent a blinkin' fortune to get his Corsa VXR to 300bhp, while a Fiesta ST will take much more than that without splitting the engine.
I knew of lots running 350bhp 350lbft without any internal mods fine on the older Astra VXR - the pistons were forged from the factory and there was no issue, to be honest most of the cars would be 300bhp or so with Remap. induction, exhaust and intercooler.The newer car runs the uprated LNF engine - the same engine in the US they are getting 500bhp from it last time I checked a good few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Ecotec_engine#2.0...
The Corsa is a 1.6 and not relevant to the engines above
I'm sure i saw examples of these for sale as low as 10k. Given how expensive they were from new, they have clearly depreciated like a stone, which is not a surprise. I'd hate to have been someone who bought one of these brand new!
They are really good value and a great used bargain. However, they do absolutely nothing for me at all. When looking at used hot hatches for sale for around the 10k mark and under, i'd look at pretty much at everything else other than these.
They are really good value and a great used bargain. However, they do absolutely nothing for me at all. When looking at used hot hatches for sale for around the 10k mark and under, i'd look at pretty much at everything else other than these.
I have a 63 plate Astra J vxr got it for 14k
5 months ago with 19000 miles, what a great car when people say it is not a drivers car i have to disagree i can feel what is going on the road through the steering wheel and i like the fact that you have to go through the gears quick, and i would rather know that you can take corners fast knowing you are not going to crash it is still exiting.
5 months ago with 19000 miles, what a great car when people say it is not a drivers car i have to disagree i can feel what is going on the road through the steering wheel and i like the fact that you have to go through the gears quick, and i would rather know that you can take corners fast knowing you are not going to crash it is still exiting.
Each to their own but for me that's an awful looking car, I'd take a Megane or a Focus over that any day.
It just looks like a Corsa VXR that's eaten too many pies!
The later versions got the looks right, this looks like an experiment that went wrong.
Interior wise looks similar to a Ford Focus, nothing wrong with that, but I wish these reviewers would stop going on about the Golf like it's a huge step above all the rest - it just isn't - there's marginally more soft touch plastics but that's about it.
It just looks like a Corsa VXR that's eaten too many pies!
The later versions got the looks right, this looks like an experiment that went wrong.
Interior wise looks similar to a Ford Focus, nothing wrong with that, but I wish these reviewers would stop going on about the Golf like it's a huge step above all the rest - it just isn't - there's marginally more soft touch plastics but that's about it.
IanJ9375 said:
HJMS123 said:
'The F40 is cast in aluminum, and weighs 124 pounds (56.2 kg). It has been certified for up to 295 ft-lb ( 400 Nm) of engine torque.'
Not ideal that the Astra is pushing the gearbox to it's limit even when they're standard
This is pretty normal in applications - an engineer will explain whether the rating is for internal torque measurement or whether it's constant rating or something like that (which obviously the car doesn't generate at a constant)Not ideal that the Astra is pushing the gearbox to it's limit even when they're standard
kg * (light sec)^2 / sec^2 E'/M = [ E/(c^2) ] /M = E/(M*c^2) = E/E = 1
anonymous said:
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My bad actually. The one i saw for a smidge under 10k was a Cat C/D. Realistically, they are more like 12k cheapest. There is a ropey one for 11 something. Still good value though.VW's are a different kettle of fish. They are obviously going to hold their value much better. Cheapest Scirocco R's are about 15k. Anything under that must be a cat C/D or in a bad state.
Funnily enough, that's the exact car i'd go for if i wanted a fast coupe-like car for that kind of money.
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