RE: New TVR Griffith - official
Discussion
Yipper said:
British car brands are getting a growing reputation for ugly designs. The industry needs to pay special attention to what potential customers are saying.
Just a quick scan through the recent TVR and McLaren threads shows a rising groundswell of disappointment from fans, buyers and general car nuts.
What a load of crap. Of course you only hear about the derision, mainly from those who are never in the market and just like writing nonsense on the internet. Just a quick scan through the recent TVR and McLaren threads shows a rising groundswell of disappointment from fans, buyers and general car nuts.
fatboy18 said:
Really? If one was to purchase a car the main place where you sit should look bloody awesome IMO.
First thing I look at in a car is the shape of it, 2nd thing I look at is interior, then get into the nitty gritty of engines, transmission etc.
The original Tuscans had a great interior IMO and also looked bloody good from the outside. but the final finish on many around windows mastic and panel gaps took the edge off for me.
Sadly the shape and interior of this is not ticking any boxes for me. And yes I would like to see TVR rise up again, but this is not cutting it.
Erm, and an old Viper's interior does cut it?!First thing I look at in a car is the shape of it, 2nd thing I look at is interior, then get into the nitty gritty of engines, transmission etc.
The original Tuscans had a great interior IMO and also looked bloody good from the outside. but the final finish on many around windows mastic and panel gaps took the edge off for me.
Sadly the shape and interior of this is not ticking any boxes for me. And yes I would like to see TVR rise up again, but this is not cutting it.
I feel like I'm in a small minority on PH for really liking this car, which I find surprising. I think too many people including a lot of TVR owners judge TVRs on their noise and appearance and aren't that fussed at how their handling (e.g. predictable dynamics, high speed stability and not scary lift), reliability, safety and build quality left a LOT to be desired.
This new car is a lot of form following function and it seems people don't really care about the latter. From what I've seen this car will have design integrity that no other TVR has ever come close to, to deliver a truly modern TVR with dynamics, reliability, safety and build quality to match. And noise, and 400hp/ton performance in a compact, light package. With a manual gearbox. Those attributes are getting extremely rare in the new car market.
GO TVR!
fatboy18 said:
I know this costs rather more than double the TVR being marketed but just look at the fab interior and shifter gate.
http://falconf7.com/gallery/falcon-f7-commercial/
?http://falconf7.com/gallery/falcon-f7-commercial/
It's grotesque , I suspect like me , you were confused by blondie in the video
braddo said:
fatboy18 said:
Really? If one was to purchase a car the main place where you sit should look bloody awesome IMO.
First thing I look at in a car is the shape of it, 2nd thing I look at is interior, then get into the nitty gritty of engines, transmission etc.
The original Tuscans had a great interior IMO and also looked bloody good from the outside. but the final finish on many around windows mastic and panel gaps took the edge off for me.
Sadly the shape and interior of this is not ticking any boxes for me. And yes I would like to see TVR rise up again, but this is not cutting it.
Erm, and an old Viper's interior does cut it?!First thing I look at in a car is the shape of it, 2nd thing I look at is interior, then get into the nitty gritty of engines, transmission etc.
The original Tuscans had a great interior IMO and also looked bloody good from the outside. but the final finish on many around windows mastic and panel gaps took the edge off for me.
Sadly the shape and interior of this is not ticking any boxes for me. And yes I would like to see TVR rise up again, but this is not cutting it.
fatboy18 said:
braddo said:
fatboy18 said:
Really? If one was to purchase a car the main place where you sit should look bloody awesome IMO.
First thing I look at in a car is the shape of it, 2nd thing I look at is interior, then get into the nitty gritty of engines, transmission etc.
The original Tuscans had a great interior IMO and also looked bloody good from the outside. but the final finish on many around windows mastic and panel gaps took the edge off for me.
Sadly the shape and interior of this is not ticking any boxes for me. And yes I would like to see TVR rise up again, but this is not cutting it.
Erm, and an old Viper's interior does cut it?!First thing I look at in a car is the shape of it, 2nd thing I look at is interior, then get into the nitty gritty of engines, transmission etc.
The original Tuscans had a great interior IMO and also looked bloody good from the outside. but the final finish on many around windows mastic and panel gaps took the edge off for me.
Sadly the shape and interior of this is not ticking any boxes for me. And yes I would like to see TVR rise up again, but this is not cutting it.
te, tvr interiors were awesome places to sit
Obviously this is a subjective discussion but for me personally I really like this interior. It isn’t awash with silly little buttons and lights and the switchgear looks robust and simple to use while moving. I think the fact that they’ve gone for an overall angular design over the traditional swoops of a TVR also works. I think that the integration of 21st century screens and tech is incredibly subtle and classy. Far too many cars are trying to cram massive screens into a small space like the living room of a council flat. This is very subtle and I personally think a very elegant solution.
One of the delights of a British sportscars has traditionally been a cabin that is more Savile Row than Jimmy Savile.
I think this interior manages to blend British understatement with a bit of modern bling really well. To me it’s very TVR.
braddo said:
fatboy18 said:
Yea, I guess this is crap in your opinion 18yr old car now
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It's OK, certainly not bad enough that it would sway my decision on buying a Viper. I just find it very surprising that someone would think that interior is OK but the new TVR's isn't. [/img]
If the car drove like a dream it wouldn't put me off. However, a car with THE best interior and dog handling wouldn't win me over.
DonkeyApple said:
Obviously this is a subjective discussion but for me personally I really like this interior. It isn’t awash with silly little buttons and lights and the switchgear looks robust and simple to use while moving. I think the fact that they’ve gone for an overall angular design over the traditional swoops of a TVR also works. I think that the integration of 21st century screens and tech is incredibly subtle and classy. Far too many cars are trying to cram massive screens into a small space like the living room of a council flat. This is very subtle and I personally think a very elegant solution.
One of the delights of a British sportscars has traditionally been a cabin that is more Savile Row than Jimmy Savile.
I think this interior manages to blend British understatement with a bit of modern bling really well. To me it’s very TVR.
I know why designers like this modern "display based" interior design malarkey, (so they can include huge amounts of never-used-and-way-too-confusing-as-you'd-have-to-read-a-1000-page-manual-and-possess-a-degree-in-Information-technology-to-actually-understand "functionality" into the car so that a smarmy salesman can use it to convince gullible but rich customers into parting with their cash) but i still prefer old fashioned dials in a "sports" car:
ie
How fast your are going, How fast is the engine turning, How much fuel have you got, and a few critical temperatures. Job done. All viewable AT A GLANCE because analogue dials can be "read" without actually being READ" (ie, the speedo's pointing pretty much straight up, means i'm doing a ton etc)
ie
How fast your are going, How fast is the engine turning, How much fuel have you got, and a few critical temperatures. Job done. All viewable AT A GLANCE because analogue dials can be "read" without actually being READ" (ie, the speedo's pointing pretty much straight up, means i'm doing a ton etc)
That, to my eyes, looks better than the cream interior. Almost more finished and classier.
I always prefer cream or ivory leather interiors so will wait to see nearer the time.
If the griff doesn't walk the walk, I will walk away, I have no allegiance to TVR except they make beautiful cars that make you work hard to get the best out of them (like a demanding lady that you know is too good for you) - this may not be a beauty, but if it's fast, handles well and is thrilling to drive - it's just more wife than mistress material!
I always prefer cream or ivory leather interiors so will wait to see nearer the time.
If the griff doesn't walk the walk, I will walk away, I have no allegiance to TVR except they make beautiful cars that make you work hard to get the best out of them (like a demanding lady that you know is too good for you) - this may not be a beauty, but if it's fast, handles well and is thrilling to drive - it's just more wife than mistress material!
Max_Torque said:
I know why designers like this modern "display based" interior design malarkey, (so they can include huge amounts of never-used-and-way-too-confusing-as-you'd-have-to-read-a-1000-page-manual-and-possess-a-degree-in-Information-technology-to-actually-understand "functionality" into the car so that a smarmy salesman can use it to convince gullible but rich customers into parting with their cash) but i still prefer old fashioned dials in a "sports" car:
ie
How fast your are going, How fast is the engine turning, How much fuel have you got, and a few critical temperatures. Job done. All viewable AT A GLANCE because analogue dials can be "read" without actually being READ" (ie, the speedo's pointing pretty much straight up, means i'm doing a ton etc)
I don’t think anything betters simple dials that give you all the relevant information without even a focussed glance but we are all living through a special phase where everything has to be operated through or delivered via a flat screen because the tech exists and is new and trendy and not because it is necessarily better. ie
How fast your are going, How fast is the engine turning, How much fuel have you got, and a few critical temperatures. Job done. All viewable AT A GLANCE because analogue dials can be "read" without actually being READ" (ie, the speedo's pointing pretty much straight up, means i'm doing a ton etc)
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