RE: Megane Renault Sport IV - Frankfurt 2017
Discussion
KPB1973 said:
Thank you, much appreciated. The videos floating around (i.e. Evo's) show them pretty clearly too. Sutcliffe says they're the same as the GT's. They look more attractive than the MK3's boggo ones.
I'm not sure if they're standard or optional tbh. Nice either way. They remind me of the seats from an old 205 Gti.
framerateuk said:
The same type they've been fitting to the Clio 200/220 since launch.
Comparing the ride of the 220 Trophy to my old Megane 250, it's much firmer (expected for anything with Trophy in the title), but when you're really going on a rough road, the ride does feel smoother and less crashy than the Megane did. (not that there was anything wrong with the Megane, but the Clio does feel like a bit of a step up).
Very interesting comparison, thanks! Good to hear that it doesn't fall apart when pushing on over a bad road. Bit the same dilemma with the Clio for me -- would definitely get a Trophy but would prefer the standard suspension and smaller rims. Defo a 1st world problem though. Comparing the ride of the 220 Trophy to my old Megane 250, it's much firmer (expected for anything with Trophy in the title), but when you're really going on a rough road, the ride does feel smoother and less crashy than the Megane did. (not that there was anything wrong with the Megane, but the Clio does feel like a bit of a step up).
anonymous said:
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His first word was "No", which means a disagreement. I'm finding it extremely ironic that you are questioning my intellectual prowess when you can't understand something as simple as that 
The "punters" don't make the cars, the manufacturers do. Those manufacturers have to be making cars that are more efficient and comply with the ever-stricter emission laws each time. All we're hearing at current is the death of the ICE. It's all about emissions right now. You'd have to be fairly deluded to see otherwise, which i have already stated. That's the main focus of car "progress" right now.
"Nasp" engines are a dying breed. All white-goods vehicles are going turbo and performance cars are going the same way. Supercars are not sold in the volumes that everyday cars are, so they really don't matter. Also, it's rare that they are used alot anyway, so again, not a big deal. Many Ferrari's and other exotics are going turbo too and hyper cars are even being aided by electric power.
Forced induction does come with some advantages and us car people are the minority, meaning that most other people who drive probably couldn't care less. But yes, there certainly are laws that are dictating it because, if you believe that the Government are striving for at current, we won't be in ICE's for much longer our vehicles will be dominated by emissions and efficiency. The "punters" have no say in the matter!
Anyway, you're getting upset at the wrong person. I'll await your response to Double D, which you are yet to do.
Quickmoose said:
or even with a little bit of scope creep where the impetus for FI over NA came from... rather than...this?
Renault has quite a history of FI hatches/cars, several of which were top of their respective class or thereabouts. More emissions driven than solely performance like back in the 80s/90s though
One potential issue i've got is if this new 1.8 might be a bit laggy? Saying that, the Peugeot 308 GTI and RCZ R have similar performance levels but from only 1.6 litres and i don't believe they were criticised for being specifically as such. No more so than any other turbo, anyway.
Also, peak torque from 2400 RPM onwards. Is that a bit high? I'm nit-picking here obviously but those are the only real things that could be a bit of a hindrance that i can think of. The EDC may actually help the Megane here more so than the Clio. I think it's set to be another great Renaultsport product.
Also, peak torque from 2400 RPM onwards. Is that a bit high? I'm nit-picking here obviously but those are the only real things that could be a bit of a hindrance that i can think of. The EDC may actually help the Megane here more so than the Clio. I think it's set to be another great Renaultsport product.
Edited by culpz on Wednesday 13th September 13:37
A bit of lag would imply it'll have a strong top end, the thing with Golf R's etc is that they seem to run out of puff at the top end of the rev range (which for me is the point of a turbo car, I understand I'm probably in the minority) the only one I've driven recently that didn't do this was an A45 AMG & the turbo is bigger on that so it does have a bit of lag.
I don't see it as a bad thing I don't want a turbo that's pretending to be a N/A.
I don't see it as a bad thing I don't want a turbo that's pretending to be a N/A.
The MK3 Renaultsport Megane had a fairly linear power band, as far as i'm aware, so you got power throughout the whole rev range, pretty much. You still get that turbo shove at the lower end but you don't appear to lose out up top. Maybe they're going for something similar again with this one?
roystinho said:
hondansx said:
I can beat LY; i saw a 182 the other day it was I believe was called 'Petrol Blue'. Oh so subtle, but incredible depth.
Was that available again for any other Renault Sport model?
It was available on the Clio V6, but not 1 was sold in the UK. I'm not sure for abroad, I have a feeling there may be 1 out there.Was that available again for any other Renault Sport model?
As for the Megane, like it as an all rounder. I'll wait for the Trophy version to see if I go for one. Almost seems perfect for the family that can double up as a B road/track weapon. Ideally it would allow me to get another Clio V6 for sunny days and no kids too...
It's a lovely colour.
culpz said:
The MK3 Renaultsport Megane had a fairly linear power band, as far as i'm aware, so you got power throughout the whole rev range, pretty much. You still get that turbo shove at the lower end but you don't appear to lose out up top. Maybe they're going for something similar again with this one?
I hope they can emulate the kind of un-turbo like delivery of the MK3 indeed - it's so well mapped, it being a turbo becomes an idiosyncrasy rather than an hindrance.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff