RE: New Audi RS4 - Frankfurt 2017

[TomScrut]

Looks nicer than the RS5, but unfortunately still has them awful vent things on the ends of the lights. I do though think they look better than they do on the RS5. Wouldn't stop me buying one though.

[Gio G]

Without seeing it in the flesh, it appears again that Audi have toned down the aggressive styling.. B8 RS4 still looked great in my eyes. Sounded pretty nice too with the sports exhaust.. I do wonder what this does to the values of older RS4/5?

Audi are sanitising the RS brand. I think the current RS6 is the last of these beasts...

Anyone know how the new RS5 is selling?

G

[Ares]

Gio G said:

Without seeing it in the flesh, it appears again that Audi have toned down the aggressive styling.. B8 RS4 still looked great in my eyes. Sounded pretty nice too with the sports exhaust.. I do wonder what this does to the values of older RS4/5?

Audi are sanitising the RS brand. I think the current RS6 is the last of these beasts...

Anyone know how the new RS5 is selling?

G

Is there a new halo brand coming out for Audi?

[F1GTRUeno]

Doesn't look as menacing as the B8 nor as genuinely good looking as the B7 but it's still a nice thing.

The biggest question I've always had about any RS Audi since the B7 is how did they get that one so right (coking issues aside, only going off reviews from magazines and owners) in terms of handling, ride and so on but then can't get any of the subsequent cars to do the same thing?

[Carl_Manchester]

timetex said:

As an existing RS6 owner (V10, fuel drinking Avant with 116k miles on it)

[av185]

Gio G said:

I do wonder what this does to the values of older RS4/5?

3 year old 64 plate 20 k miles RS4 av Cap clean £34600, trade bids around £32k.

Sub £30k by Christmas.

[Nickbrapp]

Richard-390a0 said:

Anything with an S or RS badge & 4 or 5 drs are fair game at the minute over on the Audi forums I browse with almost daily new theft threads.

You can also apply this to any Ford these days, not just the fiesta ST, Even cooking models of the focus are going missing at a alarming rate.

I love this shape A4. It's not radically different from the last one but it looks shaper, without being all melty like a Mercedes.

I think Audi have returned to the restrained buyer of the early 90s with Mercedes taking the place of the cock mobile.

Aside from s line A3s

[JoBlack]

J4CKO said:

Shouldn't have to think like that, but here was a guy killed locally by someone stealing his S3 and a mate had his RS4 nicked the other day when selling it, thieves posed as buyers, he got his hand caught but luckily not badly injured but these scumbags think nothing of dragging you down the road or driving over you, he got his RS4 back intact on false plates.

I think people need to be in the picture and be a bit wary of owning one, especially if they live near a big city, keep your wits about you, have good security and just be ready to hand it over if it comes to it.

It's not just big cities these days - this theft took place in one of the most rural parts of Lancashire.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14758159...

I've been offered a very good deal on a new RS6 but despite living in the middle of nowhere I'm not sure it's worth the aggro given the lengths miscreants will go to locate and steal them.

Edited by JoBlack on Tuesday 12th September 19:51

[paul789]

Carl_Manchester said:

timetex said:

As an existing RS6 owner (V10, fuel drinking Avant with 116k miles on it)

Savage.

[RSbandit]

Gio G said:

Without seeing it in the flesh, it appears again that Audi have toned down the aggressive styling.. B8 RS4 still looked great in my eyes. Sounded pretty nice too with the sports exhaust.. I do wonder what this does to the values of older RS4/5?

Audi are sanitising the RS brand. I think the current RS6 is the last of these beasts...

Anyone know how the new RS5 is selling?

G

I would echo these sentiments although I always wait to see a car in the flesh before making final judgment ...seems to be the direction they've taken since the ex lambo guy took the helm which is strange TBH. New RS5's in the classifieds from 88k (mental ) down to 65k which is prob the right price over 70k for either the 4/5 is pushing it given the current RS6 with reasonable spec could be had for mid 70s after discount a couple of yrs back

[JoBlack]

RSbandit said:

I would echo these sentiments although I always wait to see a car in the flesh before making final judgment ...seems to be the direction they've taken since the ex lambo guy took the helm which is strange TBH. New RS5's in the classifieds from 88k (mental ) down to 65k which is prob the right price over 70k for either the 4/5 is pushing it given the current RS6 with reasonable spec could be had for mid 70s after discount a couple of yrs back

still can be - Audi are chucking in 7k deposit contribution until end of the month - was offered another 10k on top off a performance 600ps model - so circa 75k brand new. Assume they are clearing out the last cars & build slots before they end production.

[RSbandit]

sounds like an excellent deal especially compared to the new 4/5

[JoBlack]

Some first videos emerging of the new 4:

https://youtu.be/-qRAymY1msM

https://youtu.be/JU3PNi4l7f4

https://youtu.be/eo_pBicjc1c

from the last video sounds a bit meh...

Edited by JoBlack on Tuesday 12th September 22:29

[James_B]

I'll be ordering one. Daytona grey metallic, to match my much missed B7, and the current R8.

[djc206]

J4CKO said:

Shouldn't have to think like that, but here was a guy killed locally by someone stealing his S3 and a mate had his RS4 nicked the other day when selling it, thieves posed as buyers, he got his hand caught but luckily not badly injured but these scumbags think nothing of dragging you down the road or driving over you, he got his RS4 back intact on false plates.

I think people need to be in the picture and be a bit wary of owning one, especially if they live near a big city, keep your wits about you, have good security and just be ready to hand it over if it comes to it.

My RS4 was £300/yr to insure. That's how worried my insurance company was about theft. Google the top ten theft rates and you'll not find an RS model in there. The S3 is up there as is the Q7, the RS4 is not.

This B9 doesn't excite me nor turn me off at first glance but theft would not factor in my decision whether to buy one or not.

[Terminator X]

Leins said:

B5 owner here, and I quite like this new one. Preferably in grey though please

Interesting turn of events though with Audi deeming 450hp enough now

80kg lighter and a stack more torque though (vs previous one) tbf.

TX.

[Leins]

Terminator X said:

Leins said:

B5 owner here, and I quite like this new one. Preferably in grey though please

Interesting turn of events though with Audi deeming 450hp enough now

80kg lighter and a stack more torque though (vs previous one) tbf.

TX.

Oh don't get me wrong, I know this will probably be a good deal faster than any of its predecessors, but it does seem like Audi are trying to do something about the ongoing "power wars" of late. (B)HP was always the headline figure that I was brought up on, and did wonder where it would all end

[Ares]

djc206 said:

My RS4 was £300/yr to insure. That's how worried my insurance company was about theft. Google the top ten theft rates and you'll not find an RS model in there. The S3 is up there as is the Q7, the RS4 is not.

This B9 doesn't excite me nor turn me off at first glance but theft would not factor in my decision whether to buy one or not.

But a ltd supply car never will be. Interesting to see %, and same for M3/M4 etc.

[TomScrut]

Leins said:

Terminator X said:

Leins said:

B5 owner here, and I quite like this new one. Preferably in grey though please

Interesting turn of events though with Audi deeming 450hp enough now

80kg lighter and a stack more torque though (vs previous one) tbf.

TX.

Oh don't get me wrong, I know this will probably be a good deal faster than any of its predecessors, but it does seem like Audi are trying to do something about the ongoing "power wars" of late. (B)HP was always the headline figure that I was brought up on, and did wonder where it would all end

I bet they will sell a load of these then do a performance version in a year or so's time with 500+HP to give the current owners a reason to upgrade.

[J4CKO]

djc206 said:

J4CKO said:

Shouldn't have to think like that, but here was a guy killed locally by someone stealing his S3 and a mate had his RS4 nicked the other day when selling it, thieves posed as buyers, he got his hand caught but luckily not badly injured but these scumbags think nothing of dragging you down the road or driving over you, he got his RS4 back intact on false plates.

I think people need to be in the picture and be a bit wary of owning one, especially if they live near a big city, keep your wits about you, have good security and just be ready to hand it over if it comes to it.

My RS4 was £300/yr to insure. That's how worried my insurance company was about theft. Google the top ten theft rates and you'll not find an RS model in there. The S3 is up there as is the Q7, the RS4 is not.

This B9 doesn't excite me nor turn me off at first glance but theft would not factor in my decision whether to buy one or not.

Well, four chaps decided they wanted my mates 07 one badly enough to turn up and take it.

I think it depends a lot on where you live, and your RS4 "was" £300 a year to insure, if this is getting more prevalent, premiums will rise accordingly.

I wouldn't let it stop anyone buying one but it should be considered, but not sure you can completely avoid it whatever you buy that is quick and or expensive.