Near Theft of my S3
Discussion
Rawwr said:
jimPH said:
Since when did insurance companies recommend autowatch ghost? If not even insurance approved.
Any why did they wait in the bedroom, was it not a bit awkward.
Smells like by product of bullock chewed grass
I'm glad someone else said that. I'm already cynical by default with most stuff posted down the intertubes but that tale sounded more like an opening scene to a Taken movie than a real event. I had to read it to the end to see if Liam Neeson turned up slightly out of breath. There's just a few too many clichés in the story for it to be believable to me Any why did they wait in the bedroom, was it not a bit awkward.
Smells like by product of bullock chewed grass
Seems easy to non-crim me, but maybe I'm just a simpleton.
Lol one of the 'what if' brigade. Explain to me how it would stop in the outside lane. Unless your M4 (or any car for that matter) has the ability to defy the laws of physics, then no, it won't stop suddenly and cause an accident. How do people like you even function on a day to day basis?
hooblah said:
Lol one of the 'what if' brigade. Explain to me how it would stop in the outside lane. Unless your M4 (or any car for that matter) has the ability to defy the laws of physics, then no, it won't stop suddenly and cause an accident. How do people like you even function on a day to day basis?
Well you’re a charming arse aren’t you? WTF has this got to old with me functioning on a day to day basis? Are you one of these super tough keyboard warriors?If a car is going to lose power at some point after it’s been stolen, why can’t it do that in the outside lane of the motorway? What makes you think that the scum who stole it are going to think “oh dear this car is losing power, let’s pull over safely on the hard shoulder, as per the Highway Code”
How is it “defying the laws of physics”?
Gavia said:
hooblah said:
Lol one of the 'what if' brigade. Explain to me how it would stop in the outside lane. Unless your M4 (or any car for that matter) has the ability to defy the laws of physics, then no, it won't stop suddenly and cause an accident. How do people like you even function on a day to day basis?
Well you’re a charming arse aren’t you? WTF has this got to old with me functioning on a day to day basis? Are you one of these super tough keyboard warriors?If a car is going to lose power at some point after it’s been stolen, why can’t it do that in the outside lane of the motorway? What makes you think that the scum who stole it are going to think “oh dear this car is losing power, let’s pull over safely on the hard shoulder, as per the Highway Code”
How is it “defying the laws of physics”?
Wizard2 said:
No hooblah, you're right, it won't stop 'suddenly'. However it will stop in just a few seconds. That could easily cause an accident.
It'll stop firing suddenly, and so decelerating immediately. But you'd have more than "just a few seconds" before the car grinds to a halt. Probably 30+? I'll try and measure if I can find a quiet straightish road 
If you're in the outside lane in busy traffic it's going to feel very uncomfortable and any sane person is going to want to get on hard shoulder as soon as possible.
silentbrown said:
It'll stop firing suddenly, and so decelerating immediately. But you'd have more than "just a few seconds" before the car grinds to a halt. Probably 30+? I'll try and measure if I can find a quiet straightish road
If you're in the outside lane in busy traffic it's going to feel very uncomfortable and any sane person is going to want to get on hard shoulder as soon as possible.
Wouldn’t it just lunch the gearbox on a manual, unless they pressed the clutch? Does a flappy paddle one automatically kick into neutral?If you're in the outside lane in busy traffic it's going to feel very uncomfortable and any sane person is going to want to get on hard shoulder as soon as possible.
When an engine stops firing, a car stops fairly quickly.
Gavia said:
Wouldn’t it just lunch the gearbox on a manual, unless they pressed the clutch? Does a flappy paddle one automatically kick into neutral?
When an engine stops firing, a car stops fairly quickly.
1 No - like when you're coasting the inertia of the vehicle drives the engine.When an engine stops firing, a car stops fairly quickly.
2 : No flappy paddle boxes typically only go to neutral as you stop.
3: No it doesn't. Try it. When you lift off the accelerator, any modern car stops putting fuel into the engine. As there's no fuel, there's also no need for a spark. The engine still turns over happily on it's own. You slow down because of aerodynamic drag, rolling resistance and frictional losses in the engine.
If you're in neutral you'll coast for even longer, but in my flappy paddle car after 'coasting' from 70mph my speed is still around 35 after 30 seconds.
silentbrown said:
1 No - like when you're coasting the inertia of the vehicle drives the engine.
2 : No flappy paddle boxes typically only go to neutral as you stop.
3: No it doesn't. Try it. When you lift off the accelerator, any modern car stops putting fuel into the engine. As there's no fuel, there's also no need for a spark. The engine still turns over happily on it's own. You slow down because of aerodynamic drag, rolling resistance and frictional losses in the engine.
If you're in neutral you'll coast for even longer, but in my flappy paddle car after 'coasting' from 70mph my speed is still around 35 after 30 seconds.
Fair enough. I still think there’s every chance the scrotes will just bail and leave the car wherever it stops. 2 : No flappy paddle boxes typically only go to neutral as you stop.
3: No it doesn't. Try it. When you lift off the accelerator, any modern car stops putting fuel into the engine. As there's no fuel, there's also no need for a spark. The engine still turns over happily on it's own. You slow down because of aerodynamic drag, rolling resistance and frictional losses in the engine.
If you're in neutral you'll coast for even longer, but in my flappy paddle car after 'coasting' from 70mph my speed is still around 35 after 30 seconds.
What happens with the power steering? And the brakes? Last time I stalled a car with those it was nigh on undriveable and just went wherever it wanted.
Gavia said:
What happens with the power steering? And the brakes? Last time I stalled a car with those it was nigh on undriveable and just went wherever it wanted.
If you put it into neutral/dip the clutch, then yes, the engine will stop turning pretty quickly and you'd lose brake servo and hydraulic PAS. Electrically assisted steering won't be affected. If you keep it in gear then everything continues to work.
This is assuming the cutout is just a dumb switch. It's definitely possible to have smart cutouts which only let the engine idle, which removes this as an issue.
hyphen said:
Ignore the name, it isn't a feature just for car jackings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE8_IenrYlI
When you start the car each time, you need to enter a code, if you don't it cuts off a mile or something later with horn on and lights flashing.
Has been around for decades, Clifford is a reputable company.
Had a Clifford avantguard on my last 2 cars and it’s impressive especially the blackjax it also has proximity sensors that beep if u go near it! If I owned a golf R of Audi rs it’s the system I’d have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE8_IenrYlI
When you start the car each time, you need to enter a code, if you don't it cuts off a mile or something later with horn on and lights flashing.
Has been around for decades, Clifford is a reputable company.
Edited by hyphen on Friday 9th March 21:49
ghost83 said:
Just as an add though the only downside is if it’s got remote start the immobiliser chip gets taken from your key and glued to the box in your steering cowl which could be a problem if it got nicked so skip the remote start and it’s fine
Also not good for manuals if kept in gear. I had remote start and would stress to garages and others about it.Great fun though, and along with freaking out people going past
also great for turning on Aircon in summer and preheating in winter there should be a specific fund setup like they do to cover the cost of uninsured drivers,
But this fund should be used to cover the cost of a series of bait cars.
when said scrotes steal one of the bait cars they suddenly find the windows are laminated and cant be smashed the doors lock and the car stops suddenly once away from the property.
at this point the car bursts into flames and voila instant drop in theft figures in a particular area.
now some may say this is a tad extreme but it would only have to be done a couple of times and even the most hardcore of car thieves would have second thoughts.
anyone want to start a crowdfunding campaign to buy a couple of Golf Rs and some flammable materials
But this fund should be used to cover the cost of a series of bait cars.
when said scrotes steal one of the bait cars they suddenly find the windows are laminated and cant be smashed the doors lock and the car stops suddenly once away from the property.
at this point the car bursts into flames and voila instant drop in theft figures in a particular area.
now some may say this is a tad extreme but it would only have to be done a couple of times and even the most hardcore of car thieves would have second thoughts.
anyone want to start a crowdfunding campaign to buy a couple of Golf Rs and some flammable materials
Gavia said:
blaineuk said:
I keep reading about auto watch, why can’t it let the car be started and driven for a short time, before it cuts the engine if you don’t enter the code, they wouldn’t get far and they wouldn’t be in your house.
I know others have mentioned a system that does that, but there are some serious risks with that. My M4 was stolen after a burglary in early January and was on the motorway in a matter of minutes. What happens if the car stops in the outside lane? The risk of a serious crash involving innocent drivers would be huge and you’d have questions to answer about that.
I’ve fitted a Ghost system on the new one, along with a Cat 5 tracker and massively upgraded my house security and external protection around the car.
The system here can be used to remotely disable the car (under police authority).
Audi saloon used in robbery, so likely nicked. Accelerates fast and has silver mirrors so a S/RS?
Police try to intervene but outnumbered/out violenced.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-43359995/police-of...
Police try to intervene but outnumbered/out violenced.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-43359995/police-of...
Edited by hyphen on Saturday 10th March 21:53
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