Near Theft of my S3
Discussion
Evanivitch said:
ashleyman said:
Yes, it melts the plastic part in the middle. Ideally you want the full lock to be metal.
Isn't the blowtorch so that they can expose the front of the lock to allow it to be snapped?I think the blow torch methods is to melt the plastic part in the anti snap lock which they can then use to their advantage. Not sure how that works yet.
https://youtu.be/ap2FBPWNj4c?t=319
You can buy the locks with nickel centres instead of plastic but I am not sure if that will stop them as I'm not fully aware what advantage using the blowtorch gives them.
ashleyman said:
No. You can snap the locks without a blow torch - sometimes you don't even need to remove the plate, - either way you can get in without a blow torch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGNRKWQLMk
I think the blow torch methods is to melt the plastic part in the anti snap lock which they can then use to their advantage. Not sure how that works yet.
https://youtu.be/ap2FBPWNj4c?t=319
You can buy the locks with nickel centres instead of plastic but I am not sure if that will stop them as I'm not fully aware what advantage using the blowtorch gives them.
Some are melting them to physically remove the whole lock from the door...I think the blow torch methods is to melt the plastic part in the anti snap lock which they can then use to their advantage. Not sure how that works yet.
https://youtu.be/ap2FBPWNj4c?t=319
You can buy the locks with nickel centres instead of plastic but I am not sure if that will stop them as I'm not fully aware what advantage using the blowtorch gives them.
Ninja59 said:
ashleyman said:
No. You can snap the locks without a blow torch - sometimes you don't even need to remove the plate, - either way you can get in without a blow torch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGNRKWQLMk
I think the blow torch methods is to melt the plastic part in the anti snap lock which they can then use to their advantage. Not sure how that works yet.
https://youtu.be/ap2FBPWNj4c?t=319
You can buy the locks with nickel centres instead of plastic but I am not sure if that will stop them as I'm not fully aware what advantage using the blowtorch gives them.
Some are melting them to physically remove the whole lock from the door...I think the blow torch methods is to melt the plastic part in the anti snap lock which they can then use to their advantage. Not sure how that works yet.
https://youtu.be/ap2FBPWNj4c?t=319
You can buy the locks with nickel centres instead of plastic but I am not sure if that will stop them as I'm not fully aware what advantage using the blowtorch gives them.
So what's the solution? Composite doors and not UPVC as well as anti-snap locks?
ashleyman said:
Hadn't thought of that!
So what's the solution? Composite doors and not UPVC as well as anti-snap locks?
Composite doors really is the simple answer or extra internal measures that make the removal lifting of the handles impossible.So what's the solution? Composite doors and not UPVC as well as anti-snap locks?
I think we will also see more smashing of toughened glass it is "weak" and quiet to smash unlike laminated.
Ninja59 said:
ashleyman said:
Hadn't thought of that!
So what's the solution? Composite doors and not UPVC as well as anti-snap locks?
Composite doors really is the simple answer or extra internal measures that make the removal lifting of the handles impossible.So what's the solution? Composite doors and not UPVC as well as anti-snap locks?
I think we will also see more smashing of toughened glass it is "weak" and quiet to smash unlike laminated.
Sounds like the ideal solution is all external doors to be composite with proper anti-snap locks, all ground floor glass to be toughened and then finished with the 3M film. Then you've got all your soft stuff like CCTV, PIR lights, visible alarm etc... that hopefully put someone off even trying to get access.
You can get stronger handles, that are much harder to break and bend.
There's also one that physically locks the handle, so even if the lock is defeated, you still can't open it from outside - https://www.euro-secure.com/lock-lock/
There's also one that physically locks the handle, so even if the lock is defeated, you still can't open it from outside - https://www.euro-secure.com/lock-lock/
ashleyman said:
Thats a good idea. I was looking at the photo thinking - great if they didn't bring a screwdriver! haha
Yea that wasn’t really the best example I could’ve chose. Funnily enough it’s a year ago tonight that I got my door blowtorched for my car, I got the plate from a local door/window showroom, think it was £35Mandalore said:
Zombie said:
Weekendrebuild said:
If you read my post mate they wouldn’t even get in to any of my property’s . Not without been completely knackered / arrested As for size etc etc doesn’t mean a thing in my experience some of the most dangerous people were quiet diminutive in stature ! However they had very few issues with causing serious harm to others ! I suspect it comes with experience...
You're missing the point. Again.Downward said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Ninja59 said:
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 6th February 14:55
Cant be too hard for the police to nab them in the act if they really wanted to
Ninja59 said:
Composite doors really is the simple answer or extra internal measures that make the removal lifting of the handles impossible.
I think we will also see more smashing of toughened glass it is "weak" and quiet to smash unlike laminated.
You wouldn't believe the difficulty of trying to convince a sales person for a large, independent windows and composite doors salesperson that toughened glass just means it breaks nicely, and that laminate glass is far superior.I think we will also see more smashing of toughened glass it is "weak" and quiet to smash unlike laminated.
He's unsure if they can source laminate for the side window in our new door, so I'll possibly have to take the measurements to the company that did our patio doors.
Evanitech had the same problem getting ours redone and he was a little how can I put it well it is will weigh more and potentially over time reduce the working life of the hinges.
Ironically by the time he had ordered them he had attended an attempted burglary. Note the attempted, they failed to get in. Guess what stopped them, yes the laminated glass. The homeowner had been stupid enough to leave the keys in the door which is what they wanted to get at....
He now recommends laminate glass at least on the exterior side of DG on doors etc to prevent such issues.
Ironically by the time he had ordered them he had attended an attempted burglary. Note the attempted, they failed to get in. Guess what stopped them, yes the laminated glass. The homeowner had been stupid enough to leave the keys in the door which is what they wanted to get at....
He now recommends laminate glass at least on the exterior side of DG on doors etc to prevent such issues.
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PH_77 said:
Yikes - Some proclaim on the best lease deals available ever thread volume X that GAP insurance is utterly pointless........ No evidence of anyone ever needing it... etc etc etc. Keep us posted please. I do hope that you obtain a satisfactory resolution. In terms of any perceived insurance shortfall I suspect that you should be able to minimise your losses with a few autotrader adverts sent to the insurance Co. Best of luck, and sorry for your loss.
So my claim settled as follows for the stolen leased Golf R with no Gap insurance -Lease company assured me I would be refunded any lease payments after theft date - so no liability for the remainder of the lease
Lease company then asked insurance co directly for a sum of money to settle, which was lower than expected.
Insurance company then offered some £1600 more, settled with the lease company, deducted my excess and paid me the remainder.
Not how many here expected this scenario to play out, myself included.
They’d have done me a far bigger favour nicking the M5 for which I bought a return to list price (not invoice) GAP policy paying maximum £50k!
Edited by theboss on Wednesday 27th February 14:53
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