Near Theft of my S3

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wjb

5,100 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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jezhumphrey75 said:
im sorry but If you live in these high risk areas why bother having these cars? is it really worth it anymore?.
Little bit harsh to blame the victim for having a nice car, but I do kinda understand your point.

These cars, S3, golf r, rs, st (basically any newish hatchback with 250-400bhp), especially the 4 door ones) are extremely high risk now, you've only got to look on the stolen cars page on FB to see how often they get taken.

Saw a horrible cctv of an S3 taken last week, the owners girlfriend had taken it out and was followed home, 4 lads in a car basically bashed the door down 5 seconds after she entered the house.

A golf r was taken the other day, here is the owners post. frown


Herr Schnell

2,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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doodz444 said:
What would stop intruders, if Cameras and Alarm did not prevent them?
In this instance these things would help:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/mila-type-a-high-securit...

https://www.ultion-lock.co.uk/


PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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doodz444 said:
What would stop intruders, if Cameras and Alarm did not prevent them?
Did an alarm go off OP , could you add loads of outside lights to the house/drive so the whole house lights up and flashes, almost like the houses you see a xmas that are full of lights, I'm thinking big here.

Do you have sensor outside lighting, you could install about 10 of them wired centerally so you can switch them off/on even have an emergency switch at the top of the stairs. Get blue lights, flood lights, flashing lights, even one that plays music. It sounds a bit crazy but it may just confuse them, or think twice before the break in.


This could be fun - I'm also thinking along the lines of Home Alone set up some traps
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Defenders-Jet-Spray-Repel...


Edited by PAULJ5555 on Wednesday 13th September 09:36

Who_Goes_Blue

1,094 posts

171 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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This

Anti Hijack system - 2 buttons hidden somewhere on/under the dash - punch in a quick code otherwise the car immobilizes itself 40 seconds after driving off.
Scumbags wont know its there until they`re 1/2 a mile away. Simply hand them the keys then collect with the spare set when the police locate it.

Edited by Who_Goes_Blue on Wednesday 13th September 08:42

InitialDave

11,907 posts

119 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
I don't get it.

<googles>
Oh, there's a gun called a Colt 1911. Right. In common with, oooh, most people - I didn't know that.
He wasn't replying to you.

I do know what a 1911 is, and thought he was being fairly droll.

Edit: yes, most people in the UK wouldn't get it, I agree, it's not a common interest. My more firearm-aware mate makes comments I don't get half the time. But the way you word it comes across like he shouldn't make a joke you don't get.

Edited by InitialDave on Wednesday 13th September 08:53

culpz

4,884 posts

112 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Firstly OP, i'm sorry to hear about your experience. Unfortunately, it's not uncommon and these types of cars, such as yours, do appear to be specifically targeted. You can find many stories as such on here, some that have resulted in much worse but it's not nice either way.

Secondly, there is no 100% deterrent out there for car theft. If someone one something badly enough, they can and will potentially go to great lengths to get it or just attempt to. You never know if you're dealing with run-of-the-mill scumbags or organised thieves or even something in between.

In terms of the evidence that the scum left behind, as others have said on here, don't expect great deal to be done about it, if anything at all. Your head and your heart is in the right place but they just won't be interested. It's a real shame but there's not much you can do about that.

Dogs can be a good deterrent but getting a pet as such is a lifestyle. Getting one for the sake of this is selfish, it needs looking after and given a nice home. It's never going to be a guarantee anyway, as said above and you don't even know how a dog will react in that scenario either.

J4CKO

41,566 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Trouble is, you take care of your property with cctv, alarms and a big dog, then they get you parked at a supermarket whilst loading your shopping.

I, personally am just going to avoid S and RS Audis, Golf R's etc, not sure how much of a risk they are round here but probably a bit close to Manchester, back int he day it was Cosworths but they could be taken without the keys, sounds like you absolutely need the keys so the thieves have got bolder and more aggressive, prepared to kill for an Audi S3.

You know the scum are into them as you see them being hammered round Manchester city centre by dodgy looking characters and you know those guys probably wont have gone into Audi and bought one.

Would be good, if only for some redress to set a honey trap of a brand new RS3 and let them take it then grab them, take them somewhere secluded and then call some hard, pipe hittin gentlemen who posses a respectable array of tools used for general plumbing repairs, to teach them the error of the their ways.

What we should be discussing is stuff they dont seem to bother with, are the Leon Cupra R's being hot the same, would a 3 door 2wd one be less of a risk, what can the manufacturers do to help ?

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Is it even possible to insure an Audi S/RS for less than £10k a month these days? It's like every single one is eventually targetted by a fking gang!

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Who_Goes_Blue said:
This

Anti Hijack system - 2 buttons hidden somewhere on/under the dash - punch in a quick code otherwise the car immobilizes itself 40 seconds after driving off.
Scumbags wont know its there until they`re 1/2 a mile away. Simply hand them the keys then collect with the spare set when the police locate it.

Edited by Who_Goes_Blue on Wednesday 13th September 08:42
As I said, ghost immobilisor is a much better option.

Monkeylegend

26,401 posts

231 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Unbusy said:
Tony Martin had the right idea.
Then feed them to the pigs.
fking scum trying to enter a house knowing the owners are asleep inside. That crosses the Rubicon for me and they put themselves in peril.
Anyone saying keyboard warrior will be sent my left over kebab.
Extra hot chilli sauce. lick
Typical PH keyboard warrior, there's always one
Hope you're not busy Unbusy, I'm starving, but can you remove the chilli sauce please redface

Look on the bright side OP, you are up one torch wink

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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On a recent trip to the USA speaking to the locals, they almost seemed shocked that we don't have guns in the UK, one asked me what do we do if someone get into your bedroom at night. I had to pause and think, all I could say was I don't know throw a pillow at them. In some ways they have the right idea when it come to defending themselves.


culpz

4,884 posts

112 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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J4CKO said:
You know the scum are into them as you see them being hammered round Manchester city centre by dodgy looking characters and you know those guys probably wont have gone into Audi and bought one.
That's more to do with the cheap array of lease deals that were offered on them. I wouldn't assume that, when you see such people driving them, it's because they have been recently stolen.

J4CKO said:
What we should be discussing is stuff they dont seem to bother with, are the Leon Cupra R's being hot the same, would a 3 door 2wd one be less of a risk, what can the manufacturers do to help ?
I don't believe that the Cupra's are being targeted. They are even more unassuming than the Golf's and A3's and are also FWD, so less fool-proof.

ManaghGB

717 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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I've got a new Golf R estate on the way in a few weeks and I'm having serious thoughts about what to do. There doesn't seem to be many thefts around where I live but nothing to say there won't be in the future.

With a young family the last thing I want is my door broken in during the night or to be dragged out of it at traffic lights.

It will be parked in the garage overnight and I live in a street that can't be easily found (cul de sac) so hopefully this should go some way to deter anyone?

Zetec-S

5,874 posts

93 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Personally I'd only fit a tracker if the insurance company insisted, or it significantly reduced the cost. To be honest if someone was to steal my car I'd probably rather not have it back (unless it was something particularly rare or unique). Ghost immobilisers are all very well, but what's to stop the scum coming back once the car has been recovered and asking you not so nicely for the code?

Again, personal preference but if I had something high risk then I'd go for uprated locks, cctv, alarm, perhaps security post, but if they got past all that the keys would be left somewhere easy to find. I'd rather they got a move on and fked off pretty quick. Ultimately a car can be replaced...

Timbo_S2

532 posts

263 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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I'm still surprised someone isn;t selling and marketing a device that can detect a GPS tracker - i've seen some bits on ebay, but nothing more mainstream.

Would go some way to defeat the obvious threat, and as a golf R and classic car owner i'd certainly be interested...

Plate spinner

17,700 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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My neighbour has an RS6 / VW camper can thing and recently had installed solid looking electric metal posts across his driveway.

Ugly, but maybe a decent first line deterrent?

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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I think part of the concern is simply down to there being A LOT of Audi S3s out there. With the help of PCP, they are selling a lot of them, and whilst car theft has grown, we are hearing more about Audis being stolen because there are more of them.

The link I posted said 0.86 S3 thefts per 1,000 cars. That means you're more likely to get your partner pregnant whilst using contraception that you are your Audi S3 stolen - the most stolen car in the UK.

mgv8

1,632 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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andymc said:
if you're expecting the torch to be passed to the boys in the lab downtown, good luck
I had a property break in and the police took DNA and fingerprints of one item. 2 years later the lad got into pub fight. Still and the info on file and he went down for the robbery. So yes do send this stuff off to the lab and keep the info.

Zetec-S

5,874 posts

93 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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hondansx said:
I think part of the concern is simply down to there being A LOT of Audi S3s out there. With the help of PCP, they are selling a lot of them, and whilst car theft has grown, we are hearing more about Audis being stolen because there are more of them.
This is a very good point.

And yes, certain models are a slightly higher risk, but the perception is probably exaggerated because theft of higher performance models is more widely publicised in the press and on social media. People don't tend to post on facebook or car forums when a 12 year old diesel Astra is stolen, but if it's a brand new Audi then they're more likely to.

Same with the press, especially the local rag. My local one will happy name drop the brand if it's deemed "premium" in any car related story. Otherwise they refer to it in more general terms.

wjb

5,100 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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culpz said:
I don't believe that the Cupra's are being targeted. They are even more unassuming than the Golf's and A3's and are also FWD, so less fool-proof.
Meanwhile on Facebook yesterday...