Would you wait 45 minutes when filling up to get it free?

[PixelpeepS3]

Fore Left said:

Doesn't work.

I've been stood on the BP forecourt for the last hour. First they threatened to call the police then they still made me pay for the petrol.

Lol - Sorry fella... got stuck behind some overweight woman with a tag and a heard of feral children at the counter

[Peperami]

I'd have something with a noisy v8 before a Tesla.

Cows, trucks and planes are killing the planet. Oh and the fact that we get into wars and destroy ourselves for no reason. Not cars.

[thegreenhell]

I don't pay for my own fuel, so no. Even if I did I still wouldn't. Life is too short to be wasted continually hanging around at the roadside waiting for an appliance to charge. Ask me again when you can offer at least an 80% charge in under five minutes for five pounds.

[Strudul]

thegreenhell said:

Ask me again when you can offer at least an 80% charge in under five minutes for five pounds.

Isn't there talk of offering the facility to just swap your battery when it gets low rather than recharge it? Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.

(Your old battery would then be recharged and once full given to the next guy that comes along).

[Efbe]

RobM77 said:

sandman77 said:

NickCQ said:

Sure I would, but I wouldn't be waiting there myself, I'd pay someone £10 to take it down to the filling station for me on Saturday morning before I woke up. Leaving £30-40 of pure savings.

Labour must be really cheap where you live.

I'd accept £10 to sit in someone's car watching You Tube or reading a book for an hour! It's hardly 'labour'

You can tell this is PH.

£10 for an hours work is way more than the minimum wage.

[ezi]

Of course. My car costs approximately £70 for a full tank of v-power, stand and do nothing for £87.50 an hour? Deal.

[mwstewart]

45 minutes - absolutely not. If I did something inbetween it means faffing around twice. My time is worth more than that.

[Hoofy]

tejr said:

Massively depends on the cars range. If it'll manage 800-1000 miles on a tank, then yes. If it only manages 150-200miles per tank, then hell no.

Pretty much. I imagined it would be in my 70 litre tank. So I was thinking £5 for £80+ worth of fuel sounds like a bargain and it would take me to the Scottish borders.

[alock]

PixelpeepS3 said:

what would you do?

What's the chances he is already working for someone else and hence I need to wait 90 or 135 min?

What's the chance he is ill and I have to drive 30+ miles to find someone else?

[kambites]

mwstewart said:

45 minutes - absolutely not. If I did something inbetween it means faffing around twice. My time is worth more than that.

Your time is worth more than ~£80 net (so unless you have a clever income tax dodge around £130 gross) per hour? Fair enough I guess but most of us certainly don't earn that much!

[vikingaero]

Strudul said:

thegreenhell said:

Ask me again when you can offer at least an 80% charge in under five minutes for five pounds.

Isn't there talk of offering the facility to just swap your battery when it gets low rather than recharge it? Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.

(Your old battery would then be recharged and once full given to the next guy that comes along).

I can't see this being a realistic proposition any time soon or in a Utopia that won't exist in anything other than the long term. Most cars have inbuilt batteries and there would have to be standardisation on battery packs and access. Let's say a battery pack cost £7k. You need spares, a lot of them at each site whilst batteries are charging. Then you have the problem of batteries being exchanged at a higher rate at one location than another. Batteries would need to be transported around to meet demand.

[irocfan]

as much as I love the model S in terms of looks and the interior one of the big (the biggest?) draws for me is noise/theatre. I know that most nice electric cars will out perform mine to a point where it does not matter but I'd still prefer mine. Now if you were to offer me that deal on mine I'd be all over it....

[GT119]

IanH755 said:

If I could get the same range (>650 miles) with the price of a new EV car costing the same as an ICE version then I would swap in a heartbeat but sadly, while the new car cost may eventually come down to ICE levels in the next 3-5 years, I don't the range issue being solved for decades until a better replacement for Lithium batteries exists.

So if you could get 325 miles per 45 minute break, that's not acceptable?
What about if you had a virtually free full tank after every sleep and then when required a 45 minute stop the next day to achieve 650 miles in that day.

[mwstewart]

kambites said:

Your time is worth more than ~£80 net (so unless you have a clever income tax dodge around £130 gross) per hour? Fair enough I guess but most of us certainly don't earn that much!

It's not just about the money. It's wasted free time that I'd much rather fill with something good. Life's short.

[heebeegeetee]

GT119 said:

So if you could get 325 miles per 45 minute break, that's not acceptable?
What about if you had a virtually free full tank after every sleep and then when required a 45 minute stop the next day to achieve 650 miles in that day.

Mate of mine has a Leaf, and as you say, he gets a virtually free tank every sleep. And that's it.

If he needs to go far, he takes another car, because like most households, he has more than one car. Like most enthusiasts possibly, he has multiple cars.

Another mate has a Golf Gte. Says he filled up once in 1200 miles.

We too have multiple cars, and am seriously considering chopping one of em for a 2 yr old leaf for £10k. (Or £5k to change).

[PorkInsider]

If you were willing to waste 45 minutes of your life to save ~£45 would you not be better off buying something considerably cheaper, and better, than a glorified milk float and spending what you'd saved in initial outlay on petrol?

[r129sl]

I guess if you run an electric vehicle you have to change your habits: or, perhaps, develop some habits.

How often do you get in the car in a bit of a hurry and remember there is no fuel in it because you couldn't be bothered to stop at the petrol station last night? It's not a problem because it only takes five minutes to fill the tank. But with an electronic car, presumably you just become more disciplined about charging it when you can.

For many of us who do long distances, like 400 to 1000 miles in a day, conventional fuel is very convenient. We fill up when we are running low at any point in the huge network of filling stations. Many of us will carry a jerry can just in case. I guess with an electric car, you have to plan not only your journey but your stops around charging stations; not only that but you have to plan your meal times or coffee times around charging stops.

I quite like the 400 mile range of my conventional cars. They give that kind of range when cruising at 100mph. I think you'd be lucky to get 180miles out of a Tesla and 100miles out of an i3 running at that kind of pace. I'm not over fond of eating in service stations and drinking coffee in Costa. I try to stop at a pub or restaurant that I know or have identified; or in summer I'll picnic in a pretty place. I'll fill up somewhere nearby if necessary.

Life is not about saving money.

[768]

Not worth it for me.

Free unattended refills at home and work could make the difference though. Or reducing the time to 15 minutes or less.

[Wills2]

mwstewart said:

kambites said:

Your time is worth more than ~£80 net (so unless you have a clever income tax dodge around £130 gross) per hour? Fair enough I guess but most of us certainly don't earn that much!

It's not just about the money. It's wasted free time that I'd much rather fill with something good. Life's short.

Interesting isn't it that many people always associate "worth" with money these days or should I say it's quite sad and as you say life is short.

In answer to the question though, no I don't want an electric car I might have to have one in the future but I'll wait until I have no other option.

[kambites]

Wills2 said:

mwstewart said:

kambites said:

Your time is worth more than ~£80 net (so unless you have a clever income tax dodge around £130 gross) per hour? Fair enough I guess but most of us certainly don't earn that much!

It's not just about the money. It's wasted free time that I'd much rather fill with something good. Life's short.

Interesting isn't it that many people always associate "worth" with money these days or should I say it's quite sad and as you say life is short.

In answer to the question though, no I don't want an electric car I might have to have one in the future but I'll wait until I have no other option.

I suppose it depends on your job, but for me I could happily simply work an hour less each week. or three hours, in fact for the saving in fuel costs. 45 minutes waiting for fuel or 3 hours working... I think I'll sit in my car for a bit and spend an extra two and a bit hours with my family.

Edited by kambites on Friday 15th September 22:22