Would you wait 45 minutes when filling up to get it free?
Poll: Would you wait 45 minutes when filling up to get it free?
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Discussion
mwstewart said:
kambites said:
Your time is worth more than ~£80 net (so unless you have a clever income tax dodge around £130 gross) per hour? Fair enough I guess but most of us certainly don't earn that much!
It's not just about the money. It's wasted free time that I'd much rather fill with something good. Life's short.
t, ring your mum, ring your wife...ring someone else's wife... 
Me and SWMBO have been talking about this a lot recently. Our commutes are about 10-12 miles e/w (albeit in different directions) so we'd be more than happy with an EV that either charged overnight each night or at work during the day. We'd still have an ICE car for longer journeys but, aside from the initial costs and I believe quite limited shelf lives at the moment, one or even two EVs would make perfect sense for us.
Merc 450 said:
Electric vehicles will never catch on, i'm in service stations every day, average say 50 cars in the car park and 3 charging points. Anyway there's no replacement for displacement, must dash off to buy a Mustang 5.0 GT today
1) you're in the minority driving 200miles+ per day.2) supply/demand. If 40 of those 50 cars were electric, there'd be more than 3 charging points.
Whilst it might only take 45 minutes for your own car to charge, how long is the queue in front of you going to be while everyone else takes a similar 45 minutes to charge their cars?
And whilst others may say just make sure you charge at home overnight before venturing out, this doesn't help if your journey exceeds the range of your battery, or if you live on the 10th floor of a block of flats and simply can't plug your car in overnight.
What about those long rows of terraced houses in most towns. Are EV owners in those all going to be traipsing a charge lead out across the pavement to charge their vehicles. You think some scally running a key down the side of your car is annoying, just think how annoying it would be if the same scally mentality decided to run down the street taking a pair of garden shears to all those cables.
I feel that until the government address the wholesale problem of owners being able to conveniently and easily charge their cars, mass EV ownership is still some way off.
And whilst others may say just make sure you charge at home overnight before venturing out, this doesn't help if your journey exceeds the range of your battery, or if you live on the 10th floor of a block of flats and simply can't plug your car in overnight.
What about those long rows of terraced houses in most towns. Are EV owners in those all going to be traipsing a charge lead out across the pavement to charge their vehicles. You think some scally running a key down the side of your car is annoying, just think how annoying it would be if the same scally mentality decided to run down the street taking a pair of garden shears to all those cables.
I feel that until the government address the wholesale problem of owners being able to conveniently and easily charge their cars, mass EV ownership is still some way off.
Merc 450 said:
Electric vehicles will never catch on, i'm in service stations every day, average say 50 cars in the car park and 3 charging points. Anyway there's no replacement for displacement, must dash off to buy a Mustang 5.0 GT today
If you are in a petrol station every day, you are doing it wrong, either you're in an Evo 8 and driving 200 miles a day or you've a 2 liter diesel and doing 500 miles a day. Unless you are a delivery driver, change your job Ares said:
Beauty is though it doesn't have to be wasted time. You don't have to stand next to the car, you can sit with a coffee, tap away on a laptop, take a st, ring your mum, ring your wife...ring someone else's wife...
Sometimes it may work out, but mostly it won't. It's something else to manage - albeit a small cognitive load - but it's there, and I would choose not to have it in my downtime. Then there are the practicalities: what if I/we see friends and want a pint, what if something urgent comes up and I need to get away sooner? It's a shackle.t, ring your mum, ring your wife...ring someone else's wife... The scenario the OP poses doesn't work for me. Maybe if when I am retired and have a slower pace of life it would, or now if it was a valet service with complimentary two hours parking. It would then work for occasional town stuff.
DIW35 said:
You think some scally running a key down the side of your car is annoying, just think how annoying it would be if the same scally mentality decided to run down the street taking a pair of garden shears to all those cables.
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Well he may learn his lesson after the first, if using a pair of metal garden shears .
MitchT said:
Yes, because that would equate to about £75 for 45 minutes of my time, or effectively £100/hour - far more than I can earn each hour, so clearly economic sense.
70L tank in mine and it likes superunleaded so getting on £2/minute or to put it another way less than 10% of the time it would allow you to drive the car for. I think that would be a yes too.
babatunde said:
If you are in a petrol station every day, you are doing it wrong, either you're in an Evo 8 and driving 200 miles a day...
I often found with longish commutes there's only one garage that is the closest to your route, with the fuel you'd prefer, past the bottleneck you want to get by asap, with pay at pump, etc. So with a 200 mile capacity it'd only take a 50 mile each way commute before you're looking at filling up every two days. Except that requires you getting back to fill up with 0 miles left and so you need to fill up every day.There's little I find more uncomfortable than cashiers at fuel stations starting to think of you as a friend.
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