RE: Golf R400 testing again

[PH_77]

Helicopter123 said:

I have a 2018 Audi S4 for 2 years, £10k per annum at £287 pm inc VAT and would expect this to be a little cheaper. Golf R was under £200pm when I was looking.

Wow - that's cheap! But you did have to pay an initial payment, didn't you.

[anonymous-user]

Can we forget leasing and just continue dreaming about a 5 cylinder 400ps golf.

[PH_77]

Yes indeed. Forget leasing. This would be an amazing motor to have, but ONLY if it was not leased. In order to maintain any modicum of self-respect, this vehicle would be to purchased outright, with custard to prove it.

[andrewparker]

PH_77 said:

Helicopter123 said:

I have a 2018 Audi S4 for 2 years, £10k per annum at £287 pm inc VAT and would expect this to be a little cheaper. Golf R was under £200pm when I was looking.

Wow - that's cheap! But you did have to pay an initial payment, didn't you.

Such is the nature of leasing. I’d be a rich man if I had a pound for every time someone harped on about how cheap a car was to lease, whilst conveniently forgetting the addition of VAT and a huge down payment. The S4 might be £287/mth, but I bet you any money the initial was £2.5k+.

[TheDrBrian]

Kolbenkopp said:

PixelpeepS3 said:

Recent personal experience: two weeks of 300 PS Cupra. Nice bit of kit, very good vfm. But I'd rather have it with 50 PS less, 18" wheels and better dampers/tyres than what is the current iteration. Similar thing for the transition from M135i to M140i. Wow, 500 Nm! Yeah but so what, the steering is still very average, still no LSD option, and if you look at the torque / gearing, there's no more need to rev the thing beyond 5.1k rpm. It's better in some ways (amazing efficiency), but the areas that touch driving pleasure are not improved one bit. Before I get a lifetime ban: I love both cars, just feeling it's a bit of a shame so much potential is left unused...

But it's really hard to quantify steering feel in Brent language but really easy to knock a few milliseconds off a 0-60 time.

[culpz]

PH_77 said:

Yes indeed. Forget leasing. This would be an amazing motor to have, but ONLY if it was not leased. In order to maintain any modicum of self-respect, this vehicle would be to purchased outright, with custard to prove it.

Failure of a troll-post.

[Duke of Kidderminster]

Yuck. This'll end up being another chavy/blingy overpowered Golf. NO THANKS.

In order to surpass the current Golf R styling this will need at least 6 exhaust tips coming out of the back.

[Burwood]

Duke of Kidderminster said:

Yuck. This'll end up being another chavy/blingy overpowered Golf. NO THANKS.

In order to surpass the current Golf R styling this will need at least 6 exhaust tips coming out of the back.

It will have just 2. Will that make you happy?

[TheDrBrian]

Burwood said:

Duke of Kidderminster said:

Yuck. This'll end up being another chavy/blingy overpowered Golf. NO THANKS.

In order to surpass the current Golf R styling this will need at least 6 exhaust tips coming out of the back.

It will have just 2. Will that make you happy?

Is it 2 working with 4 fakes or just 2 total?

[Burwood]

TheDrBrian said:

Burwood said:

Duke of Kidderminster said:

Yuck. This'll end up being another chavy/blingy overpowered Golf. NO THANKS.

In order to surpass the current Golf R styling this will need at least 6 exhaust tips coming out of the back.

It will have just 2. Will that make you happy?

Is it 2 working with 4 fakes or just 2 total?

Just the 2, total. Think Audi RS

[Carl_Manchester]

Helicopter123 said:

Carl_Manchester said:

£250pm? you will have a job!

my decent-but-not-great polo gti lease deal is £230pm inc. vat.

imo. if this golf appears it will be approx £41k without options. i would expect the lease to be similar at approx £450pm.

I have a 2018 Audi S4 for 2 years, £10k per annum at £287 pm inc VAT and would expect this to be a little cheaper. Golf R was under £200pm when I was looking.

i always use 3+24 personal deals as my benchmark otherwise it's not apples for apples.

select leasing i class as reputable and an s4 auto lease comes out as approx £450 per month inc vat versus £230pm for my polo.

hence the Golf R400 should be in the same £400-450pm range.

[andrewparker]

TheDrBrian said:

Burwood said:

Duke of Kidderminster said:

Yuck. This'll end up being another chavy/blingy overpowered Golf. NO THANKS.

In order to surpass the current Golf R styling this will need at least 6 exhaust tips coming out of the back.

It will have just 2. Will that make you happy?

Is it 2 working with 4 fakes or just 2 total?

You're implying that the current Golf R has fake exhaust exits right?

[Syndrome280]

Make it an estate with a tow rating sufficient to drag a track car on a trailer and I'll have one in a heartbeat.

[RacerMike]

Helicopter123 said:

I have a 2018 Audi S4 for 2 years, £10k per annum at £287 pm inc VAT and would expect this to be a little cheaper. Golf R was under £200pm when I was looking.

What was the deposit to get it that low?!

[TheDrBrian]

andrewparker said:

TheDrBrian said:

Burwood said:

Duke of Kidderminster said:

Yuck. This'll end up being another chavy/blingy overpowered Golf. NO THANKS.

In order to surpass the current Golf R styling this will need at least 6 exhaust tips coming out of the back.

It will have just 2. Will that make you happy?

Is it 2 working with 4 fakes or just 2 total?

You're implying that the current Golf R has fake exhaust exits right?

VAG do have history with fakery.

[andrewparker]

TheDrBrian said:

andrewparker said:

TheDrBrian said:

Burwood said:

Duke of Kidderminster said:

Yuck. This'll end up being another chavy/blingy overpowered Golf. NO THANKS.

In order to surpass the current Golf R styling this will need at least 6 exhaust tips coming out of the back.

It will have just 2. Will that make you happy?

Is it 2 working with 4 fakes or just 2 total?

You're implying that the current Golf R has fake exhaust exits right?

VAG do have history with fakery.

Fake exhausts?

[culpz]

andrewparker said:

Fake exhausts?

On the MK7 R, aren't the two inner ones not technically connected to anything? Something like that anyway. That's why there's usually only one at each side that gets dirty

[TimmyMallett]

MK7 R Estate had 2 fake exhausts out of the 4.

[cuprabob]

culpz said:

andrewparker said:

Fake exhausts?

On the MK7 R, aren't the two inner ones not technically connected to anything? Something like that anyway. That's why there's usually only one at each side that gets dirty

The other 2 have a valve that opens when Race mode is selected. The estate used to have a fake pair but I believe those are now the same as the hatch and valve operated.

It was the same on the old R32s, one tailpipe has a valve and only opens at higher revs, hence one pipe is normally more sooty than the other.

Edited by cuprabob on Monday 25th September 12:42

[andrewparker]

culpz said:

andrewparker said:

Fake exhausts?

On the MK7 R, aren't the two inner ones not technically connected to anything? Something like that anyway. That's why there's usually only one at each side that gets dirty

As Cuprabob has said below, all exhausts function. The outer two have valves which only open when the car is in Race mode. Two clean and two dirty is a sure sign the car is ran mainly in Eco or Normal mode.

The MK7 estate had fake exits, but the 7.5 estate has a fully connected system with two back boxes. Even better, it's not valved.

Edited by andrewparker on Monday 25th September 12:52