Yachtmaster II, why no love?
Discussion
(It's because of the huge YACHTMASTER writing on the bezel isn't it?!)
Called into my local Rolex AD today to discuss waiting lists and to be added for a third model and they very quickly moved on to trying out their stock.
One of which was the new 2017 Yachtmaster, of which they had a old model 2017 to compare with. Disregarding the reasons why, she quickly stated she could offer 10% off the "old" model straight away.
It's a Rolex sports model, quite attractive in my eyes and is immediately available at discount, in the uk of over a thousand pounds. This without the added complication that makes it a very interesting watch indeed.
Thoughts?
Called into my local Rolex AD today to discuss waiting lists and to be added for a third model and they very quickly moved on to trying out their stock.
One of which was the new 2017 Yachtmaster, of which they had a old model 2017 to compare with. Disregarding the reasons why, she quickly stated she could offer 10% off the "old" model straight away.
It's a Rolex sports model, quite attractive in my eyes and is immediately available at discount, in the uk of over a thousand pounds. This without the added complication that makes it a very interesting watch indeed.
Thoughts?
Well, it's a Rolex - and therefore top-quality and about as impeccably rock-solid as it gets in terms of an everyday/sports watch - and the Regatta countdown complication via the bezel is utterly ingenious and worthy of admiration.
However, it's a complication that is useless to 99.999% of the population, and legibility suffers as a result. It's too big at 44mm. And it seems like a go-to Rolex for rappers, footballers & boxers. And yes, the 'Yacht-Master' bezel is too much.
That said, the blue & white colour scheme is attractive & fresh.
It's not something I personally could carry-off, but that's just me. Each to their own - have at it.
EDIT: It occurs to me that another possible reason why it's a lesser-seen model is because it confuses the hell out of the average joe-public buyer, who just wants a typical Rolex that looks like a Rolex i.e. a Sub or Datejust. Plus, it's not cheap. In that light, it might be a 'left-field' choice, which has a sort of attraction in that sense.
However, it's a complication that is useless to 99.999% of the population, and legibility suffers as a result. It's too big at 44mm. And it seems like a go-to Rolex for rappers, footballers & boxers. And yes, the 'Yacht-Master' bezel is too much.
That said, the blue & white colour scheme is attractive & fresh.
It's not something I personally could carry-off, but that's just me. Each to their own - have at it.
EDIT: It occurs to me that another possible reason why it's a lesser-seen model is because it confuses the hell out of the average joe-public buyer, who just wants a typical Rolex that looks like a Rolex i.e. a Sub or Datejust. Plus, it's not cheap. In that light, it might be a 'left-field' choice, which has a sort of attraction in that sense.
Edited by UnclePat on Saturday 23 September 23:47
As for the go to for rappers footballers and boxers then I agree
However this is what people generally aspire to and that's now the target market
Few younger people want to aspire to an older banker that wears an old Arnold and son watch
Rightly or wrongly the target market for Bentley for example is footballers etc rather than the stereotypical old landowner that smokes a pipe. That day has gone
However this is what people generally aspire to and that's now the target market
Few younger people want to aspire to an older banker that wears an old Arnold and son watch
Rightly or wrongly the target market for Bentley for example is footballers etc rather than the stereotypical old landowner that smokes a pipe. That day has gone
Nomal said:
I agree it is a model that divides many people, I love it personally mine is the old model and two tone so will really ruffle the feathers !
Just how does that outer bezel (with the numbers and the Yachet Master writing) actually work? Rotating it to line up the numbers to the face, looks unfathomable and then the writing is potentially upside down....which would bug me?Can someone explain and demo the bezel moved to another position?
LaurasOtherHalf said:
PJ S said:
^
Bezel is fixed, the watch function is a 10 minute regatta countdown timer.
A bit of research on that will tell you all you need to know.
Not strictly true, the bezel is rotated as part of the setting procedure for the regatta timer complication.Bezel is fixed, the watch function is a 10 minute regatta countdown timer.
A bit of research on that will tell you all you need to know.
ou sont les biscuits said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
PJ S said:
^
Bezel is fixed, the watch function is a 10 minute regatta countdown timer.
A bit of research on that will tell you all you need to know.
Not strictly true, the bezel is rotated as part of the setting procedure for the regatta timer complication.Bezel is fixed, the watch function is a 10 minute regatta countdown timer.
A bit of research on that will tell you all you need to know.
jonah35 said:
... the market is moving towards bigger watches...
Actually I think the opposite it true, big watches have had their day and the quality market is moving towards the 38-40mm size. It's not quite there yet bit it will be... there is evidence of high end watch makers designing smaller with each annual release. RichB said:
jonah35 said:
... the market is moving towards bigger watches...
Actually I think the opposite it true, big watches have had their day and the quality market is moving towards the 38-40mm size. It's not quite there yet bit it will be... there is evidence of high end watch makers designing smaller with each annual release. Patek made the 42mm 5168G (larger version of 5167 Aquanaut, in WG), the 42mm 5524G (WG Pilot Dual Time), and the US-only 42mm 5522 (SS Pilot), is just one example.
Given the 5522 is classed as a Calatrava model, I suspect it’s a precursor to larger version of the Calatravas we’re more familiar with.
Girard-Perregaux introduced a whole new Laureato line-up, which ranges from 34mm-45mm, to provide options for ladies and men with different wrist sizes, just to give another example.
As far as a definite trend towards the case sizes you mention, I can see nothing that indicates that bigger sizes are discontinued – the market is still very much in a state of flux, with brands catering for certain regions if they feel there’s a likelihood of a good return.
In other words, any smaller sized models will be aimed at the smaller wrists of Asian men, especially if the model is a dressier style – as an example, the 37mm Lange & Sohne Saxonia Thin, but the 40mm version is still in production.
FP Journe is another who has increased from 38mm (now offering both 40mm and 42mm for some models), and Parmigiani Fluerier’s reintroduction of the Toric is 41mm, when it originally used to be 35 or 36mm.
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