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rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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danmartin1778 said:
I didn't pay anything for them. As to whether they 'work'; what do you think that I think they do? Honestly mate I wouldn't waste my time replying to something I thought was a load of rubbish. These sort of forums are full of people with no life, and no car knowledge. I bet you havent seen a socket set never mind used one?
Qualifications:

1) Got socket sets
2) Used them
3) Know a little bit about catalysts

These things are utter tripe. Catalysts enable a reaction to happen at a lower pressure or temperature than it would otherwise need. They aren't magic, they don't violate laws around the conservation of energy.

The question you need to ask the vendor is what reaction they are facilitating in your petrol tank. Generally we don't like reactions happening in petrol tanks.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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jkh112 said:
Presumably they dissolve in the fuel, so why not dissolve them in a can of diesel and then pour that into the tank?
Catalysts speed up chemical reactions by taking part in them but ending up in their original state.

Surely you'd get the same result by using 'old' diesel, presumably more aged than spending thousands of years under the North Sea.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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rxe said:
Generally we don't like reactions happening in petrol tanks.
Presumably why he's doing it in a diesel tank?

shakotan

10,709 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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danmartin1778 said:
bobmcgod said:
So you get them into the fuel tank and they just sit there? Forever?
Forever!
Just stop and think about that for a minute or two...

russell_ram

321 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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csd19 said:
russell_ram said:
danmartin1778 said:
bobmcgod said:
So you get them into the fuel tank and they just sit there? Forever?
Forever!
Not dissolving and not chemically affecting the fuel in any way yet still providing some magic fuel system cleaning function, slightly lowering the pressure required to combust the diesel or somehow improving mpg (plus many other placebo benefits not yet mentioned).

Ace, must get me some.

Edited by russell_ram on Wednesday 27th September 12:57
Don't forget to add some fuel line magnets to that order now...
Added, in fact have ordered two - must work twice as well, no?

shakotan

10,709 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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russell_ram said:
csd19 said:
russell_ram said:
danmartin1778 said:
bobmcgod said:
So you get them into the fuel tank and they just sit there? Forever?
Forever!
Not dissolving and not chemically affecting the fuel in any way yet still providing some magic fuel system cleaning function, slightly lowering the pressure required to combust the diesel or somehow improving mpg (plus many other placebo benefits not yet mentioned).

Ace, must get me some.

Edited by russell_ram on Wednesday 27th September 12:57
Don't forget to add some fuel line magnets to that order now...
Added, in fact have ordered two - must work twice as well, no?
I'm just using magnets as fuel and cutting out the middle man.

TT Tim

4,162 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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This thread is proof that there's one born every minute!

rolleyes


Olivergt

1,343 posts

82 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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OP, do you have good data on your current MPG without the catalysts?

If not, then why not start tracking your MPG before you put them in, ideally you would need to track 4-5 full tanks at least to get a reasonable base line.

The you can add the catalysts and measure again, at least this way you will get some idea of if they have worked or not.

"If it disagrees with experiment it's wrong"

If you really want to improve your MPG, change your driving style, google Hypermiling and have a read.

P.S. I know the above experiment is hardly good enough to give an accurate answer on whether they work or not, but at least you will have some data to compare.


Jonny_

4,128 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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If any substance could somehow "catalyse" fuel to improve its energy yield, do you not think that manufacturers would be lining fuel tanks or fuel lines with the stuff?

They're utter bks, take the advice of previous posters here and install them in the dustbin. Very much doubt that anything good would come from a loose object rattling around in your fuel tank.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Dont worry mate there are some nobs on here. They laughed at me when I bought an electric supercharger, magnets to polarise the fuel and a hgo system. I saved thousands it is all a big conspiracy by the fuel companies to control what is the public domain.

I might give these a go keep us updated

bobmcgod

405 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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russell_ram said:
Not dissolving and not chemically affecting the fuel in any way yet still providing some magic fuel system cleaning function, slightly lowering the pressure required to combust the diesel or somehow improving mpg (plus many other placebo benefits not yet mentioned).

Ace, must get me some.

Edited by russell_ram on Wednesday 27th September 12:57
This is exactly the point I was getting at!

donkmeister

8,213 posts

101 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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As someone points out above, the fuel tank is a place where you don't want reactions occurring. If these are really a catalyst that has any effect on your fuel, all that they will do is make your fuel go bad more quickly. I suspect they are inert though. I hope they are inert!

If these were something that fitted inside the combustion chamber it might have some effect (not necessarily positive).

If you want to see the effects of an actual catalyst on a volatile substance (diesel is not as volatile, but it is still volatile), try putting a few drops of blood into a container of hydrogen peroxide. Wear safety gear and don't do it near anything flammable or actually burning!!!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fuel-Tank-Catalyst-Additi...

this?

''New 2017 version! The miracle additive for both PETROL and DIESEL engines. FTC Fuel Tank Catalyst and Additive for enginees up to 2000cc. FTC is a specially formulated mix of rare earth metals cast into solid micro cones. The little cones that make up the FTC are simply dropped into the fuel tank where they get to work to permanently improve performance, economy and restore lost power. Safe to install the FTC will not breakdown or invalidate any warranty.
FTC users report many or all of the following improvements; better acceleration, more engine responsiveness, lower emissions, easier starting, lower operating temperature and improved fuel economy. Results will differ from vehicle to vehicle, engine to engine but if you don't find any improvement we'll happily refund you.
Simple to install and safe in any vehicle. Feed the FTCs into the neck of the fuel tank, let them sink to the bottom of the fuel tank and get straight to work. FTC enhances fuel quality for a more efficient and complete combustion and reverses any carbon/gums/tars that have built up in the engine to restore lost performance and efficiency. FTC will also prevent these performance inhibiting deposits from returning.
It's a simple case of fit and forget, or rather fit and enjoy! Order your FTC today and start enjoying improved performance for yourself.
Noticeable benefits & improved engine performance for engines up to 2000cc.''

boyse7en

6,738 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fuel-Tank-Catalyst-Additi...

this?

''New 2017 version! The miracle additive for both PETROL and DIESEL engines. FTC Fuel Tank Catalyst and Additive for enginees up to 2000cc. FTC is a specially formulated mix of rare earth metals cast into solid micro cones. The little cones that make up the FTC are simply dropped into the fuel tank where they get to work to permanently improve performance, economy and restore lost power. Safe to install the FTC will not breakdown or invalidate any warranty.
FTC users report many or all of the following improvements; better acceleration, more engine responsiveness, lower emissions, easier starting, lower operating temperature and improved fuel economy. Results will differ from vehicle to vehicle, engine to engine but if you don't find any improvement we'll happily refund you.
Simple to install and safe in any vehicle. Feed the FTCs into the neck of the fuel tank, let them sink to the bottom of the fuel tank and get straight to work. FTC enhances fuel quality for a more efficient and complete combustion and reverses any carbon/gums/tars that have built up in the engine to restore lost performance and efficiency. FTC will also prevent these performance inhibiting deposits from returning.
It's a simple case of fit and forget, or rather fit and enjoy! Order your FTC today and start enjoying improved performance for yourself.
Noticeable benefits & improved engine performance for engines up to 2000cc.''
Why wouldn't they work for engines over 2000cc? (that is assuming they would work in engines below 2000cc, which they don't)

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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boyse7en said:
Why wouldn't they work for engines over 2000cc? (that is assuming they would work in engines below 2000cc, which they don't)
it adds an air of credibility, I mean if they said it worked for all engines sizes people might think it was bullst when it clearly isn't.

Justin S

3,642 posts

262 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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I'd prefer to go for one of those things that ups the power by plugging in the power point first. A lot easier and will reap the same results !

Guvernator

13,164 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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The name Broquet rings a bell. I'm sure I remember something about Subaru dropping these little things into the petrol engines of official Japanese import Impreza's like the 22b to try to stop them from detting on our lower grade fuel as they use 100 RON in Japan or am I imagining it?

I don't think I am, a large company like Subaru obviously believed they did something to the fuel although I'm pretty sure I remember too that the Subaru community weren't so convinced.


boyse7en

6,738 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Justin S said:
I'd prefer to go for one of those things that ups the power by plugging in the power point first. A lot easier and will reap the same results !
I've got a cigarette lighter adaptor to fit those. Free power!

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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boyse7en said:
The Spruce goose said:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fuel-Tank-Catalyst-Additi...

this?

''... Results will differ from vehicle to vehicle, engine to engine but if you don't find any improvement we'll happily refund you.
'
Yes, just remove them them from the fuel tank and return them for a full refund!

How convenient. hehe

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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i don't know much about fluids but two catalysts sitting at the bottom of a tank isn't the best option, they won't mix with all the fuel, surely a better place is in the fuel lines.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Wednesday 27th September 16:31

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