Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

[silentbrown]

Butter Face said:

I wouldn’t expect there’s any difference in the book values (I.e I wouldn’t think a March car is higher than an April one) but as for what people are asking for them is a different story. It’s a bit like the higher tax band in 2006 and how people will actively seek a 2005 car to avoid the extra £200 or whatever a year.

As for the checking, download an app called Vehicle Smart. You can chuck a reg in, see the tax band and MOT status/history in seconds. I use it in work all the time.

Cheers. That app's great, but I don't think it knows about list prices so can't tell you the *exact* tax rate for post Apr-17 cars. due to not having VINs...

[Butter Face]

silentbrown said:

Butter Face said:

I wouldn’t expect there’s any difference in the book values (I.e I wouldn’t think a March car is higher than an April one) but as for what people are asking for them is a different story. It’s a bit like the higher tax band in 2006 and how people will actively seek a 2005 car to avoid the extra £200 or whatever a year.

As for the checking, download an app called Vehicle Smart. You can chuck a reg in, see the tax band and MOT status/history in seconds. I use it in work all the time.

Cheers. That app's great, but I don't think it knows about list prices so can't tell you the *exact* tax rate for post Apr-17 cars. due to not having VINs...

No I suppose not, that’s going to take some digging to get it bang on correct as you could have two seemingly identical cars next to each other and one with an option that sticks it over the threshold!

[silentbrown]

Butter Face said:

...you could have two seemingly identical cars next to each other and one with an option that sticks it over the threshold!

That's my concern - some £50 factory-fitted carpet mats "thrown in free" could end up costing an extra £1550 over the car's life!

[99dndd]

I've been a twonk and ordered a private registration for a new car I have on order.

Is it possible for the plate to be assigned to the car before I collect it and how much of a faff is it for the dealer?

[HTP99]

99dndd said:

I've been a twonk and ordered a private registration for a new car I have on order.

Is it possible for the plate to be assigned to the car before I collect it and how much of a faff is it for the dealer?

Yes and no faff; let your salesman know and drop in the paperwork for it when you get it.

[99dndd]

Cheers, car's not due to be built by August so I'll drop it in nearer the time.

[shtu]

Wildcat45 said:

I don't get Vignale. Why introduce it when Ghia was an established brand/trim level that people understand.

Probably didn't fancy paying £loads to Ghia to use the name and logo.

[Wooda80]

Osinjak said:

Wooda80 said:

jamoor said:

Wooda80 said:

Whilst payments by card can be considered as a guaranteed payment the funds often don't clear into the retailer's account for 3 days or so. Consider a dealer registering 10 cars at £30k each on the last day of the month and getting debited £3m upon registration by the manufacturer.

Compared to having payment by transfer the dealer has to allow for an extra £3 million overdraft at the bank while he waits for the customers' card purchases to appear.

dafuq.

I'm wondering if you are just making stuff up for the lols.

Which bit are you struggling to accept?

The maths?

Fair comment! Someone did point that out when the post was fresh, Ok so it should be £300,000 not £3m, call me Diane Abbott....
But the point ( if anyone can remember what it was ) remains valid.

[Limpet]

anonymous said:

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Me too. It's still the only car in my driving career I've ever made money on too.

I took a punt on a very cheap one with a short MOT, and a couple of faults (severe misfire and lack of power under load, a blowing exhaust, and a non functional electric window) back in the early 90s. It had been in a neighbour's garden for months, who used to buy, fix up and sell on old bangers as a hobby / sideline. He'd lost interest in the Rover after acquiring a heap of a Lancia Beta which he'd slightly fallen in love with. We settled on £150 for the Rover.

The running issue was fixed by cleaning out the throttle pot, the exhaust bodged with the old bean tin and jubilee clip trick, and before I did anything else, I took it for a test, which it passed, albeit with quite an advisory list. The window issue was sorted with a secondhand regulator and motor assembly for £35 from a local breaker, and once it was all cleaned up, it was quite a nice car. Felt lively and the interior was very pleasant for the time.

I ran it for a few months, and sold it on for £700.

I miss those days.

[techguyone]

I had one too a dark metallic grey E regd, nice car only 1600 but about as powerful as a 2.0 litre carburettor. It was like a mini executive car, sadly I had some issue with my front brakes and they would lock up, I sadly drove into the back of my bosses merc & it was a write off nice car though.

[czerwiec]

I was wondering if one of you gents in trade could help me out with car Glass valuation, please. It appears Glass's no longer provide one-off valuation or valuation for private individuals. My friend's car was written off last weekend and now she is trying to get a fair price for it from car insurance.
Many thanks in advance!

[Eyersey1234]

shtu said:

Wildcat45 said:

I don't get Vignale. Why introduce it when Ghia was an established brand/trim level that people understand.

Probably didn't fancy paying £loads to Ghia to use the name and logo.

I thought Ford owned Ghia?

[Wildcat45]

shtu said:

Probably didn't fancy paying £loads to Ghia to use the name and logo.

I thought Ford owned Ghia - or at least the brand.

[loskie]

Vignale maybe the attempt a global brand maybe for some reason Ghia does not fit that.

[valiant]

czerwiec said:

I was wondering if one of you gents in trade could help me out with car Glass valuation, please. It appears Glass's no longer provide one-off valuation or valuation for private individuals. My friend's car was written off last weekend and now she is trying to get a fair price for it from car insurance.
Many thanks in advance!

I use this site. Run by Ford and gives CAP values.

https://www.capconnect.co.uk/ConsumerValues/Ford.a...


Seems pretty on the money.

[RRLover]

kmpowell said:

Currently looking to downsize my car (both physical and £).

I have a Range Rover Sport (2016 car, FDSH, excellent condition, 25k miles) currently worth circa £52k and I'm looking to trade it in for a brand new & unregistered Golf GTi at circa £30k. I'm sticking with large VW main dealers who I also large know have a Land Rover franchises in their group, because I just want rid of the RRS without the hassle... but the treatment I am getting is quite mind boggling...

The frist VW dealer (Lookers) I visited last weekend wouldn't give me a ballpark figure on the RRS, it had to be underwritten formally, which took 3 senior sales managers AND the sales executive 30mins as they inspected the vehicle with a fine tooth comb all together outside. They then spent another 30mins in the office on the internet using CAP/HPI etc coming up with a figure. Eventually we got a figure and they gave me figures on the Golf, but it was excruciating.

The figures the Lookers dealer gave me were ok, but nothing special so I have carried on looking round. Today I spotted a pre-reg advertised at a Inchcape VW dealer. It's 100 miles away so I rang up and spoke to a salesman who again immediately started the "underwritten" routine as soon as he found out about the RRS. This time the sales man refused to even start talking about the Golf until they had the RRS "formally underwritten", his words were "it's not a six grand car you're part axing so we need to have it underwritten before we can continue"... for which he sent me a "remote vehicle appraisal form" form which he asked me to print, fill out myself and send to him!

I'm seriously thinking about binning the VW if I have to go through this each and every time I see a car that may suit. But before I do is this normal practice when trading down, or just a VW thing?!?

Maybe its my age .. but are you being serious ? Its a 50k asset you are asking them to purchase, of course they need to see it & get it underwritten if its not there usual marque

Shoe on the other foot but would you part with 50k without seeing what you are buying ?

[RRLover]

berlintaxi said:

Not a great time to be in the industry by the look of things.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5622735/Va...

The industry is changing.
Sales guys will become product genies & test drive dummies. The old style BM will become more of the closer. SM will rotate stock.
I was recently in currys buying a new TV, a guru told me the pro's & con's. Checked stock & i decided on what i wanted, he then passed me to someone else who tried to sell me warranty, brackets soundbars (the upsell) then passed to a cashier.

[Dan W.]

The new car market is in a bad state currently, but used is booming well for me anyway.

always preferred to sell used and we have smaller targets then some places so it doesn't affect us, not surprised by the Vauxhall news that's what happens when you piss profit away constantly its not going to last.

[Fast Bug]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

It's not badge engineering, it's a model line to designate top spec models.

IIRC someone at Ford thought the Ghia designation was a bit old and they wanted something to replace it. Which was probably the right thing to do as someone mentioned the Granada Ghia earlier....

[Sheepshanks]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Maybe it needs to be Japanese? Acura, Infiniti and Lexus seem to do pretty well.