Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

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dash23

13 posts

91 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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In that case, I’ll go for a couple of bottles of plonk, plus the FB/Twitter/Trustpilot reviews as they only take a few minutes.

PSRG

656 posts

126 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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dash23 said:
We’re picking up a brand new car at the weekend — first time we’ve bought brand new.

The salesman has been fantastic. Even answering our questions by email on his days off. Without doubt, racing straight back there and to him next time we change our car.

We’d like to give him a little something as a ‘thank you’. Without asking him and spoiling the surprise, what sort of thing usually goes down well?
The guy I bought the MINI from was part of the support crew for a team doing the Race Across America, in aid of cancer research. So I sponsored them smile

dash23

13 posts

91 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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One for those working in New...

I’m picking my new factory-order car up (hopefully) on Saturday. It’s not at the dealer yet, and has been sitting in Immingham docks for the past few days. All cleared and no issues, I’m told, but awaiting delivery to the dealer.

Is this fairly normal, especially in the build-up to plate change time? Do they usually pull it out the bag or should I prepare for a longer wait?

Wooda80

1,743 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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dash23 said:
One for those working in New...

I’m picking my new factory-order car up (hopefully) on Saturday. It’s not at the dealer yet, and has been sitting in Immingham docks for the past few days. All cleared and no issues, I’m told, but awaiting delivery to the dealer.

Is this fairly normal, especially in the build-up to plate change time? Do they usually pull it out the bag or should I prepare for a longer wait?
To be honest if it's not at the dealer by now I wouldn't push for Saturday delivery. It will just mean that PDI and valeting etc will be rushed.

If the dealer can still pull it out of the bag for Saturday then fair play to them but I wouldn't pressure them for it, especially if you still have a car to run around in.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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dash23 said:
One for those working in New...

I’m picking my new factory-order car up (hopefully) on Saturday. It’s not at the dealer yet, and has been sitting in Immingham docks for the past few days. All cleared and no issues, I’m told, but awaiting delivery to the dealer.

Is this fairly normal, especially in the build-up to plate change time? Do they usually pull it out the bag or should I prepare for a longer wait?
That is cutting it fine, however if it arrives tomorrow or even Friday morning then I don't see an issue.

I never firm up a date until the car is physically with me; unless we are talking a couple of weeks ahead or it has been given a transport instruction and then I will be looking at organising a collection for a weeks time; had someone in today to sign finance paperwork for a collection on the 8th, their car is in the UK and has been given a transport instruction so the latest that we will receive it will likely be Monday, so plenty of time.

Butter Face

30,299 posts

160 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Yeah as above. I got lucky that the last 2 I was waiting for arrived yesterday so got everything ready for Saturday now. Order some flowers and get them fuelled tomorrow and ready to rock and roll!!

Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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I guess dealers can't avoid delivering this Saturday as it's the 1st, but last new car we bought the dealer absolutely refused to allow collection on a Saturday.

Indeed, I recall we had a new Renault some years ago and that dealer would only allow collection on the first if we went at midnight! You don't hear of that these days, but it used to be common to collect at midnight.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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I remember the time when a dealer delivery date (DDD) was given and 99% of the time it was either spot on or it would arrive a few days earlier, so you would organise everything with that date in mind and it rarely went pear shaped; it would show a DDD of 29th August so we'd get finance docs signed, insurance here, a collection time would be arranged and the happy customer would be picking up on the 1st September.

Now a DDD is given, it is never that date, it could be earlier, it invariably is later; maybe a week later, so you can't organise anything in advance of the car arriving at the dealership, you have to wait for it to arrive before organising everything, which means that we get chocked full of new cars taking up space, then it is a week before the customer can get in to sign the finance paperwork (however being able to e-mail it now has made things a bit easier), it just makes the whole process that little bit more difficult.

Dan W.

1,196 posts

78 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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My old sales managers used to sell me stories of when he delivered 50 new cars on a plate change day.....

with march and sept now its not as big as it used to be, plus it really doesn't seem a big thing to our customers to have their new car on the 1st of a plate change anymore.

we don't have any going out on the 1st of sep.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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I've only got 1 going on Saturday, my colleague has 4; as the years have gone by, less and less people are bothered about a plate change, they just want their car ASAP and many still don't understand the plate system, TBH I would rather they did away with it, I don't see why there is a system of obvious plate and year changes, this August has been pretty busy for me with new car handovers.

Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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HTP99 said:
I've only got 1 going on Saturday, my colleague has 4; as the years have gone by, less and less people are bothered about a plate change, they just want their car ASAP and many still don't understand the plate system, TBH I would rather they did away with it, I don't see why there is a system of obvious plate and year changes, this August has been pretty busy for me with new car handovers.
Must say I'm amazed at how low those numbers are. I've always thought it was dated plates that kept private car sales going in the UK, and that they caused the excessive depreciation we seem to suffer here compared to other countries.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
HTP99 said:
I've only got 1 going on Saturday, my colleague has 4; as the years have gone by, less and less people are bothered about a plate change, they just want their car ASAP and many still don't understand the plate system, TBH I would rather they did away with it, I don't see why there is a system of obvious plate and year changes, this August has been pretty busy for me with new car handovers.
Must say I'm amazed at how low those numbers are. I've always thought it was dated plates that kept private car sales going in the UK, and that they caused the excessive depreciation we seem to suffer here compared to other countries.
I've always assumed that the high depreciation is due to our general love affair with having a new car and changing every three or four years whereas many other countries tend to keep their cars to their death, plus company cars over here are a far bigger thing than in Europe too, we sell more new cars so there are far more 3-4 year old cars out there, thus affecting values.

Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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HTP99 said:
I've always assumed that the high depreciation is due to our general love affair with having a new car and changing every three or four years...
Well yes, but I think what drives that change (to some extent) is that dated plates "age" a car, and twice yearly changes age it twice as fast.

I've noticed a weird thing that as my wife's car (which I use quite a lot) is approaching 3yrs old I'm regularly being asked if we have a new one coming. If that commonly happens then there will be people who feel 'pressured' to change their cars. I never get asked about changing my 14yr old Merc, although people do ask if I'm interested in selling it.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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Dan W. said:
My old sales managers used to sell me stories of when he delivered 50 new cars on a plate change day.....
Sorry. I don't buy that.

50 cars - delivered - in what, 10 hours? 5 an hour? One every 12 minutes? No.

I think your old sales manager is exaggerating just a little.

shtu

3,454 posts

146 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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The Mad Monk said:
Sorry. I don't buy that.

50 cars - delivered - in what, 10 hours? 5 an hour? One every 12 minutes? No.

I think your old sales manager is exaggerating just a little.
I'm less doubtful.

I remember the era of people going to the showroom to collect their car at 00:01 on the day, and the "handover" in those days didn't involve an hour or so of selling GAP insurance, Tyre Insurance, Service Plans, How to work the stereo, etc.

Much more - here's your keys, there's the car <shake hands>, bye.



RicksAlfas

13,396 posts

244 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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shtu said:
I'm less doubtful.

I remember the era of people going to the showroom to collect their car at 00:01 on the day, and the "handover" in those days didn't involve an hour or so of selling GAP insurance, Tyre Insurance, Service Plans, How to work the stereo, etc.

Much more - here's your keys, there's the car <shake hands>, bye.
Agreed. I remember rows and rows of cars being lined up ready. As you say, a 10 minute hand over and off you went.
50 cars for a big dealership was surely possible in a day.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
shtu said:
I'm less doubtful.

I remember the era of people going to the showroom to collect their car at 00:01 on the day, and the "handover" in those days didn't involve an hour or so of selling GAP insurance, Tyre Insurance, Service Plans, How to work the stereo, etc.

Much more - here's your keys, there's the car <shake hands>, bye.
Agreed. I remember rows and rows of cars being lined up ready. As you say, a 10 minute hand over and off you went.
50 cars for a big dealership was surely possible in a day.
But he said 'delivered'. Does the word 'delivered' have a different meaning in the car sales world?

Butter Face

30,299 posts

160 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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The Mad Monk said:
RicksAlfas said:
shtu said:
I'm less doubtful.

I remember the era of people going to the showroom to collect their car at 00:01 on the day, and the "handover" in those days didn't involve an hour or so of selling GAP insurance, Tyre Insurance, Service Plans, How to work the stereo, etc.

Much more - here's your keys, there's the car <shake hands>, bye.
Agreed. I remember rows and rows of cars being lined up ready. As you say, a 10 minute hand over and off you went.
50 cars for a big dealership was surely possible in a day.
But he said 'delivered'. Does the word 'delivered' have a different meaning in the car sales world?
'Delivered' means picked up by the customer, not actually taken to them which is what 'delivered' sounds like it means.

We use 'handed over' now.

Fast Bug

11,685 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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I've had more than 50 delivered in a day. Although 40 odd were to one customer and were delivered on 6 transporters over 4 customer sites. Love fleet sales biggrin

PositronicRay

27,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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It's not unusual to deliver the cars before the 1st, particularly if there's no PX. We used to do a pre handover, controls, business manager, FSA stuff, then just sign and drive away on the day. Saved a lot of time on a tricky day.

Edited by PositronicRay on Thursday 30th August 17:17

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