Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

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GeneralSinn

11,954 posts

188 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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I’ve bought a couple of cars from dealers where they had outstanding recalls on them they didn’t seem to know about. No problem though, all sorted nice and easy booking in after collection etc.

Butter Face

30,363 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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We check all of our stock for recalls, I don’t know if we’re allowed to sell with recalls outstanding but we don’t.

Swampy1982

3,308 posts

112 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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All these stories of dealers getting screwed are funny (although appreciate damaging to the dealer) but do any of you have a story where you "lucked out"

Maybe a discounted part x for a warning light that disappeared with no intervention etc...


Butter Face

30,363 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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We took in a 335i coupe that wouldn’t boost, it had been to BMW and had hours of diagnostics, they recommended replacing both turbos.

We took it in for peanuts and traded it in, the trader fitted a new MAP sensor (Or MAF, I forget) and off it went, he ran it for a year and still made a wedge. Lucky git.


Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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As BMWs have M Specialists and Ford dealers Vignale Specialists, can you buy any car from any salesman or do you have to buy from a specialist salesman if you want a BMW M Car or a Ford Vignale. Wouldn't that set sales departments in the dealership competing with each other?

toasty

7,499 posts

221 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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What is the best job financially for a salesman? Without going into details and assuming that you don't actually own the company, is it better financially for you guys to work in a high end showroom dealing in luxobarges and supercars, a mid-range franchised dealership, a car supermarket or a wash'em and sell'em cheap dealer?

Benmac

1,475 posts

217 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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All these tales of cars being traded without engines in; wasn't it immediately obvious just from a glance? Cars typically sit very high on their suspension at whichever end the engine should live if it's absent. Clever parking nose in amongst a load of other cars?


xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Benmac said:
All these tales of cars being traded without engines in; wasn't it immediately obvious just from a glance? Cars typically sit very high on their suspension at whichever end the engine should live if it's absent. Clever parking nose in amongst a load of other cars?
Add it to the list of things THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

Wooda80

1,743 posts

76 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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toasty said:
What is the best job financially for a salesman? Without going into details and assuming that you don't actually own the company, is it better financially for you guys to work in a high end showroom dealing in luxobarges and supercars, a mid-range franchised dealership, a car supermarket or a wash'em and sell'em cheap dealer?
It doesn't necessarily follow that you will earn more money selling more expensive products. If the On Target Earnings are the same then what matters more how achievable that target is.

In something low volume like Lexus or Infiniti , you may have to sell 100 units to earn your OTE, in BMW or Mercedes it may be 150 or more to earn the same. The former will appeal to someone who prefers to spend time with a customer, often nurture a longer enquiry-to-purchase time, spend time prospecting etc. The latter will prefer to work in a more fast paced environment, having to be more organised and efficient to cope with a higher level of enquiries.

I'm not trying to paint either one of the above as being in some way better or worse than the other, more to demonstrate that one salesman will feel more at home in one situation and another salesman more at home in the other.

In order to earn mega money, in the above examples you either want to be an Infiniti salesman doing 120 units or a BMW salesman doing 180. There is no correct answer, but which do you feel would be easier?

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

174 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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How would you define mega money?

dibblecorse

6,888 posts

193 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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berlintaxi said:
How would you define mega money?
high six or seven figs innit.. this is PH after all ..... as six figs is what everyone's on ..... allegedly ....

Wooda80

1,743 posts

76 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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berlintaxi said:
How would you define mega money?
Most pay plans will reward / punish over or under performance.

So achieving 90% of percent of target might only earn you 75% of your OTE, achieving 120% of your target might earn you 150% of your OTE

( Trusting that wasn't a "wouldn't get out of bed for that" bait smile )

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

174 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Not at all, thanks for the interesting reply.

Butter Face

30,363 posts

161 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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berlintaxi said:
How would you define mega money?
OTE in most places is 35-40k I would imagine, I’ve personally known top selling prestige salespeople on £48k as the top in their dealership whilst also knowing people earning £70k in volume dealerships.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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I need to change my car in the next few months as it is reaching the maximum age I'm allowed on my company car allowance scheme.

But, inevitably, as I need to sell it, the engine light has come on.

It hasn't been affecting the way the car drives, but equally, I've been told the cost to repair the fault is somewhere between £500-600 in parts and labour from a non-branded garage. A common fault on that engine from what I've seen online, but not a cheaper way to fix what it is.

On a 10 year old Skoda, am I better spending that £600 to give a dealer the piece of mind that it's better or leaving it and accepting a lower offer?

"in my head" - the dealer (if I take it to get a newer Skoda) has access to get the job done at a lower cost with on-site Skoda techs and parts which won't actually cost them £600 to fix, but then also, are they actually going to do that when they could of course be charging a customer their higher hourly rate for revenue work instead of work to prep a car that's probably just going to auction anyway?

Butter Face

30,363 posts

161 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Best to just take it in as is IMO. You’re u likely to get £600 more for it without the light on if you spend £600 on it.

Dealer will auction/trade it regardless.

Mexman

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2,442 posts

85 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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xjay1337 said:
Add it to the list of things THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
I can assure you it did happen, A Citroen Xantia that was not very old at the time, was sitting on its arse due to the Hydro suspension and the fact that it obviously had no hydraulics anyway.
With or without an engine the early Xantias collapsed to the floor regardless.
Want to tell me why you think this is made up???

Mexman

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2,442 posts

85 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Butter Face said:
OTE in most places is 35-40k I would imagine, I’ve personally known top selling prestige salespeople on £48k as the top in their dealership whilst also knowing people earning £70k in volume dealerships.
Your in the wrong job Butterface laugh

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Mexman said:
xjay1337 said:
Add it to the list of things THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
I can assure you it did happen, A Citroen Xantia that was not very old at the time, was sitting on its arse due to the Hydro suspension and the fact that it obviously had no hydraulics anyway.
With or without an engine the early Xantias collapsed to the floor regardless.
Want to tell me why you think this is made up???
Because it's pretty stupid to buy a car without looking at the engine!

It may have happened once 30 years ago, but not a common occurrence....... certainly not if you have a few brain cells :-)

Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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The cheap px cars (sub 500 or so) we didn’t even test drive, just gave them a very quick look.

Had a ep3 type r traded in for £200, manager ran it as a regular boring model and got that price. I wondered why the guy accepted such a low price, it was rough but not that bad. Turned it on to some horrendous noises from the engine so quickly got moved and auctioned off. I still feel he lost out as could of sold it as a breaker for more.
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