Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

[Butter Face]

tiger.banana said:

however the basic salary is my main concern

As others have said. It shouldn't be.

If you're only earning the basic, you won't be doing the job long enough to worry about it

OTE should be £35+ in any main dealer, what you earn depends on commitment, experience, practice etc etc.

[Zippee]

bobsavage789 said:

Forgive me if this has already been covered somewhere in the previous 460 pages...

Would a non-franchised dealer be more open to haggling with an offer of PX + cash, or just cash?

I suspect it's the former (cash is supposedly no longer 'king'), but thought I'd check with people more experienced in such matters...

Oh and it's for a £28k car, with my PX being valued at ca. £14k by WBAC... in case that helps.

It really does depend on the total deal. A low part ex but a bit off the screen price may stack up better on the dealers books. It's the total cost to change you need to look at.
I'm in the process of buying an AMG merc from a specialist dealer. WBAC on my current car (RS6) was 3k lower than the part ex I negotiated but is likely similar to the deal id have got overall if id give in with cash. If the dealer is likely to want your part ex on his or her forecourt then you'll do better than if they just punt it out to trade.

[Fast Bug]

Butter Face said:

If you're only earning the basic, you won't be doing the job long enough to worry about it

This!

[lord trumpton]

Im mates with the SM at local Toyota dealership.

Whilst many car dealerships have stock taking root - he can't sell the Toyota hybrids quick enough. Absolutely flying off the shelves.

How are things on the ground in the used car world - are the diesels dead, petrol now more desirable than Derv and everyone wanting a used Leaf?

[Mexman]

lord trumpton said:

Im mates with the SM at local Toyota dealership.

Whilst many car dealerships have stock taking root - he can't sell the Toyota hybrids quick enough. Absolutely flying off the shelves.

How are things on the ground in the used car world - are the diesels dead, petrol now more desirable than Derv and everyone wanting a used Leaf?

Since returning after (ridiculously short) Xmas break, we have been flying.
Record January, and February looking set to follow suit.
We have taken to increasing prices and selling cars at over CAP retail money, as we simply cannot get enough stock quickly enough.
I sold 4 on Friday, and same on Saturday alone .
Now puts us on 27 or so for the month so far, and a week to go yet.

Edited by Mexman on Sunday 23 February 17:59

[HTP99]

Mexman said:

lord trumpton said:

Im mates with the SM at local Toyota dealership.

Whilst many car dealerships have stock taking root - he can't sell the Toyota hybrids quick enough. Absolutely flying off the shelves.

How are things on the ground in the used car world - are the diesels dead, petrol now more desirable than Derv and everyone wanting a used Leaf?

Since returning after (ridiculously short) Xmas break, we have been flying.
Record January, and February looking set to follow suit.
We have taken to increasing prices and selling cars at over CAP retail money, as we simply cannot get enough stock quickly enough.
I sold 4 on Friday, and same on Saturday alone .
Now puts us on 27 or so for the month so far, and a week to go yet.

Edited by Mexman on Sunday 23 February 17:59

We've had the best start to the year that we can remember, myself I've done 44 new and used deals so far this year, which is equal to 1 a day for every day I've been in so far.

[lord trumpton]

HTP99 said:

Mexman said:

lord trumpton said:

Im mates with the SM at local Toyota dealership.

Whilst many car dealerships have stock taking root - he can't sell the Toyota hybrids quick enough. Absolutely flying off the shelves.

How are things on the ground in the used car world - are the diesels dead, petrol now more desirable than Derv and everyone wanting a used Leaf?

Since returning after (ridiculously short) Xmas break, we have been flying.
Record January, and February looking set to follow suit.
We have taken to increasing prices and selling cars at over CAP retail money, as we simply cannot get enough stock quickly enough.
I sold 4 on Friday, and same on Saturday alone .
Now puts us on 27 or so for the month so far, and a week to go yet.

Edited by Mexman on Sunday 23 February 17:59

We've had the best start to the year that we can remember, myself I've done 44 new and used deals so far this year, which is equal to 1 a day for every day I've been in so far.

Good for you guys - glad you are having a good sales run

So, the cars you have sold - how do they relate to my initial question? Are they more petrol/hybrid or is diesel still buoyant?

Is there a particular price point that is working?

Ive been looking at F10 M5's again over the last few months and the same stuff is still for sale and gradually getting cheaper for example

[lord trumpton]

HTP99 said:

Mexman said:

lord trumpton said:

Im mates with the SM at local Toyota dealership.

Whilst many car dealerships have stock taking root - he can't sell the Toyota hybrids quick enough. Absolutely flying off the shelves.

How are things on the ground in the used car world - are the diesels dead, petrol now more desirable than Derv and everyone wanting a used Leaf?

Since returning after (ridiculously short) Xmas break, we have been flying.
Record January, and February looking set to follow suit.
We have taken to increasing prices and selling cars at over CAP retail money, as we simply cannot get enough stock quickly enough.
I sold 4 on Friday, and same on Saturday alone .
Now puts us on 27 or so for the month so far, and a week to go yet.

Edited by Mexman on Sunday 23 February 17:59

We've had the best start to the year that we can remember, myself I've done 44 new and used deals so far this year, which is equal to 1 a day for every day I've been in so far.

Good for you guys - glad you are having a good sales run

So, the cars you have sold - how do they relate to my initial question? Are they more petrol/hybrid or is diesel still buoyant?

Is there a particular price point that is working?

Ive been looking at F10 M5's again over the last few months and the same stuff is still for sale and gradually getting cheaper for example

[Butter Face]

VIP event this weekend, I’ve done 16 so far which is very nice. We’ve nearly done our quarter target as a branch now which is awesome. Going into March with target done is a great feeling!!

[Alextodrive]

Interesting to hear the years off to a flying start! Hope you guys will get a nice little pay packet for your grafting!

Would be fascinated to know what you guys sell?
Anything particularly flying off the shelves, like hybrids? Electrics? Diesel still dping okay?

[Butter Face]

Diesel still ticking along, petrol selling well.

We’ve launched a new version of ZOE, doing quite well, the contract hire offer is very strong so tempting lots of first time EV buyers into getting on board!

[HTP99]

Diesel for us has pretty much died, we don't do a hybrid yet but it is coming but likely to be expensive vs straight ICE, new ZOE is doing phenomenally well for us, unlike Butter Face, ours are PCP or outright purchase and new Captur is flying off the shelves too.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 23 February 20:12

[itsallyellow]

I run a large main dealership selling a top German brand.

I would say this year is looking tough but still very good.

Diesel for us is still selling very well. A very small uptake on electric and hybrid. Less than 2% of our sales.

Mike

[Butter Face]

HTP99 said:

Diesel for us has pretty much died, we don't do a hybrid yet but it is coming but likely to be expensive vs straight ICE, new ZOE is doing phenomenally well for us, unlike Butter Face, ours are PCP or outright purchase and new Captur is flying off the shelves too.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 23 February 20:12

Have you looked at the 24m contact hire deal? It’s really strong on the GT line. Done 3 this month!

[HTP99]

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Diesel for us has pretty much died, we don't do a hybrid yet but it is coming but likely to be expensive vs straight ICE, new ZOE is doing phenomenally well for us, unlike Butter Face, ours are PCP or outright purchase and new Captur is flying off the shelves too.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 23 February 20:12

Have you looked at the 24m contact hire deal? It’s really strong on the GT line. Done 3 this month!

Will have a look, the 24m 0% pcp is pretty bloody good too.

[Butter Face]

HTP99 said:

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Diesel for us has pretty much died, we don't do a hybrid yet but it is coming but likely to be expensive vs straight ICE, new ZOE is doing phenomenally well for us, unlike Butter Face, ours are PCP or outright purchase and new Captur is flying off the shelves too.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 23 February 20:12

Have you looked at the 24m contact hire deal? It’s really strong on the GT line. Done 3 this month!

Will have a look, the 24m 0% pcp is pretty bloody good too.

CH will be cheaper

[TheDukeofBork]

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Diesel for us has pretty much died, we don't do a hybrid yet but it is coming but likely to be expensive vs straight ICE, new ZOE is doing phenomenally well for us, unlike Butter Face, ours are PCP or outright purchase and new Captur is flying off the shelves too.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 23 February 20:12

Have you looked at the 24m contact hire deal? It’s really strong on the GT line. Done 3 this month!

Will have a look, the 24m 0% pcp is pretty bloody good too.

CH will be cheaper

Interested in the new Zoe but my dealer hasn't got a demo in to look at/test drive yet...

[Butter Face]

TheDukeofBork said:

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Diesel for us has pretty much died, we don't do a hybrid yet but it is coming but likely to be expensive vs straight ICE, new ZOE is doing phenomenally well for us, unlike Butter Face, ours are PCP or outright purchase and new Captur is flying off the shelves too.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 23 February 20:12

Have you looked at the 24m contact hire deal? It’s really strong on the GT line. Done 3 this month!

Will have a look, the 24m 0% pcp is pretty bloody good too.

CH will be cheaper

Interested in the new Zoe but my dealer hasn't got a demo in to look at/test drive yet...

Ours arrived in the country today I think. Just waiting for it to get to us. We’ve had a LHD one in the showroom for a few weeks which has helped sales but we need a proper demo to get it all moving!

[HTP99]

TheDukeofBork said:

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Butter Face said:

HTP99 said:

Diesel for us has pretty much died, we don't do a hybrid yet but it is coming but likely to be expensive vs straight ICE, new ZOE is doing phenomenally well for us, unlike Butter Face, ours are PCP or outright purchase and new Captur is flying off the shelves too.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 23 February 20:12

Have you looked at the 24m contact hire deal? It’s really strong on the GT line. Done 3 this month!

Will have a look, the 24m 0% pcp is pretty bloody good too.

CH will be cheaper

Interested in the new Zoe but my dealer hasn't got a demo in to look at/test drive yet...

They will have a LHD showroom car, RHD demo's will be arriving around early/mid March.

[Blakewater]

A neighbour of mine has ordered a new kitchen and said the showroom was packed with lots of people buying. I think the election and Brexit has made people perceive that it's OK to make large purchases now when they weren't sure before, whatever the reality of the situation.

I got a cheap deal on a BMW in an empty showroom before Christmas. It was packed just after new year when I collected it.