Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 12]
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Patrick Bateman said:
So it seems the bad oil leak from my 745i is due to the upper timing cover. Of course it's not recommended to do them without the rocker cover gaskets either. £900 worth of work.
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You have single handedly dissuaded me from getting an e65 v8. That said, I'd probably buy yours off you when you're done, it's like trigger's broom!b
ks.gobuddygo said:
Isn't that dealer On The List, as it were. 
rsbmw said:
You have single handedly dissuaded me from getting an e65 v8. That said, I'd probably buy yours off you when you're done, it's like trigger's broom!
Yes, sorry to drone on but this level of hassle/bork potential with an M car engine would be pretty irritating. A mainstream one fitted across 5, 6, 7 series and X5 though? 
Ridiculous. And I thought I did the required homework too.What's your budget?
(only half tongue in cheek, fresh MOT tomorrow...)
gobuddygo said:
I know dealers are in it to just make money, but why oh why do they insist with rubbish photos and poor presentation...?!Throw a fresh made at of 'plates on it - a few quid for the dealer.
Have GOOD lighting. Stand alone diffused sets don't cost much, and would be a great tool for all their photos. Better than the dim, dingy setting here.
Give it a decent machine polish. Maybe not go full-retard and paint correct everything that comes through your door, but man.... set up a nice deal with a local auto-detailer. A good one will make it look 10 years younger.
Apologies, but it is tiresome seeing probably interesting cars, again and again, with poor adverts.
That said, it makes for better bargains for us...
gobuddygo said:
Yeah. I'm alright with that. I like an underdog.Although I think I'd prefer that half million mile S124.
A bit of light relief, as it's something that's come up a few times recently...
The Morgan guide to marital harmony for bargistas
- Always make sure the wife's car is in fine fettle before turning your attention to the next barge on your wish-list.
I find the good lady wife is much less prone to complaining if she can't say "What's that, ANOTHER car? What about getting the [INSERT PROBLEM HERE] done on my car?"
- Sell it on the benefits.
Us threadists are well aware of the huge practical benefits of a barge. Got kids? Talk about how many airbags it has, and how thick the doors are! Got a frail mother-in-law? Point out that the air suspension can be lowered for easy access! Going on any UK holidays/long journeys? Just FEEL the ride quality, my love!
- Casually drop into conversation the original list price.
The wife will be stunned, horrified, amazed, even. How could ANYONE consider spending that much on a car? Good grief! Once she's over the shock, tell her how much you paid for the car. Even if you know you overpaid, it's going to sound like the greatest deal in the world when compared to the new price.
Feel free to add others, from your own experience of staying married, post purchase.
The Morgan guide to marital harmony for bargistas
- Always make sure the wife's car is in fine fettle before turning your attention to the next barge on your wish-list.
I find the good lady wife is much less prone to complaining if she can't say "What's that, ANOTHER car? What about getting the [INSERT PROBLEM HERE] done on my car?"
- Sell it on the benefits.
Us threadists are well aware of the huge practical benefits of a barge. Got kids? Talk about how many airbags it has, and how thick the doors are! Got a frail mother-in-law? Point out that the air suspension can be lowered for easy access! Going on any UK holidays/long journeys? Just FEEL the ride quality, my love!
- Casually drop into conversation the original list price.
The wife will be stunned, horrified, amazed, even. How could ANYONE consider spending that much on a car? Good grief! Once she's over the shock, tell her how much you paid for the car. Even if you know you overpaid, it's going to sound like the greatest deal in the world when compared to the new price.
Feel free to add others, from your own experience of staying married, post purchase.
MorganP104 said:
A bit of light relief, as it's something that's come up a few times recently...
The Morgan guide to marital harmony for bargistas
- Always make sure the wife's car is in fine fettle before turning your attention to the next barge on your wish-list.
I find the good lady wife is much less prone to complaining if she can't say "What's that, ANOTHER car? What about getting the [INSERT PROBLEM HERE] done on my car?"
- Sell it on the benefits.
Us threadists are well aware of the huge practical benefits of a barge. Got kids? Talk about how many airbags it has, and how thick the doors are! Got a frail mother-in-law? Point out that the air suspension can be lowered for easy access! Going on any UK holidays/long journeys? Just FEEL the ride quality, my love!
- Casually drop into conversation the original list price.
The wife will be stunned, horrified, amazed, even. How could ANYONE consider spending that much on a car? Good grief! Once she's over the shock, tell her how much you paid for the car. Even if you know you overpaid, it's going to sound like the greatest deal in the world when compared to the new price.
Feel free to add others, from your own experience of staying married, post purchase.
I think r129 has given us a glimpse with his recent purchase of the MB sales patter circa 1988. Digest a few choice paragraphs from that and you’ll be able to convince the other half that all she has been missing in life was in fact a poverty spec W124!The Morgan guide to marital harmony for bargistas
- Always make sure the wife's car is in fine fettle before turning your attention to the next barge on your wish-list.
I find the good lady wife is much less prone to complaining if she can't say "What's that, ANOTHER car? What about getting the [INSERT PROBLEM HERE] done on my car?"
- Sell it on the benefits.
Us threadists are well aware of the huge practical benefits of a barge. Got kids? Talk about how many airbags it has, and how thick the doors are! Got a frail mother-in-law? Point out that the air suspension can be lowered for easy access! Going on any UK holidays/long journeys? Just FEEL the ride quality, my love!
- Casually drop into conversation the original list price.
The wife will be stunned, horrified, amazed, even. How could ANYONE consider spending that much on a car? Good grief! Once she's over the shock, tell her how much you paid for the car. Even if you know you overpaid, it's going to sound like the greatest deal in the world when compared to the new price.
Feel free to add others, from your own experience of staying married, post purchase.
TobyLerone said:
gobuddygo said:
I know dealers are in it to just make money, but why oh why do they insist with rubbish photos and poor presentation...?!Throw a fresh made at of 'plates on it - a few quid for the dealer.
Have GOOD lighting. Stand alone diffused sets don't cost much, and would be a great tool for all their photos. Better than the dim, dingy setting here.
Give it a decent machine polish. Maybe not go full-retard and paint correct everything that comes through your door, but man.... set up a nice deal with a local auto-detailer. A good one will make it look 10 years younger.
Apologies, but it is tiresome seeing probably interesting cars, again and again, with poor adverts.
That said, it makes for better bargains for us...
gobuddygo said:
What's that fugly bugger doing with auto and a 3 litre petrol engine? That's got 1.4 non-turbo diesel misery written all over it.CharlesdeGaulle said:
I'm not really the type to go all internet hard-man, but I really want to know how anyone can fk up a Gallardo enough for others to refuse to sit in it.
This particular dealer can best be described as “interesting”. Old multi storey car park in Keighley. The premium metal is on the lower floors and the quality decreases the higher you go. k up a Gallardo enough for others to refuse to sit in it. I went to view a E90 M3 a while back and it was rough around the edges to say the least. They had a plethora of exotica on the ground floor including a brand new Aventador SV. Some questionably modified supercars were also up for sale, a fair few were apparently ex rental cars and not in great condition.
Zonergem said:
gobuddygo said:
Isn't that dealer On The List, as it were. Patrick Bateman said:
Don't get married.
Surely I'm not alone in always having something on the to-do list? The car needing absolutely nothing is a unicorn.
Well, yeah... If I'm honest, the wife's car could benefit from a suspension bush refresh at the front, and I've been promising to do paint correction on it for ages.Surely I'm not alone in always having something on the to-do list? The car needing absolutely nothing is a unicorn.
TobyLerone said:
I know dealers are in it to just make money, but why oh why do they insist with rubbish photos and poor presentation...?!
Throw a fresh made at of 'plates on it - a few quid for the dealer.
Have GOOD lighting. Stand alone diffused sets don't cost much, and would be a great tool for all their photos. Better than the dim, dingy setting here.
Give it a decent machine polish. Maybe not go full-retard and paint correct everything that comes through your door, but man.... set up a nice deal with a local auto-detailer. A good one will make it look 10 years younger.
Apologies, but it is tiresome seeing probably interesting cars, again and again, with poor adverts.
That said, it makes for better bargains for us...
Maybe not at the £1500 level, but for £5k-up I agree completely!Throw a fresh made at of 'plates on it - a few quid for the dealer.
Have GOOD lighting. Stand alone diffused sets don't cost much, and would be a great tool for all their photos. Better than the dim, dingy setting here.
Give it a decent machine polish. Maybe not go full-retard and paint correct everything that comes through your door, but man.... set up a nice deal with a local auto-detailer. A good one will make it look 10 years younger.
Apologies, but it is tiresome seeing probably interesting cars, again and again, with poor adverts.
That said, it makes for better bargains for us...
A good photography setup is what lets people like 4* classics have their telephone number pricing for average cars.
Patrick Bateman said:
Don't get married.
Surely I'm not alone in always having something on the to-do list? The car needing absolutely nothing is a unicorn.
I'm very lucky, not only is my wife amazingly tolerant, I also own a garage. In the past I've sold my wife's car to ome of her work colleagues after she has had it only a couple of weeks amd all she said was when do i get my next one.Surely I'm not alone in always having something on the to-do list? The car needing absolutely nothing is a unicorn.
Edited by Patrick Bateman on Wednesday 21st February 18:46
I've just bought a Jag xj8 which she hates, but would never suggest I get rid as she knows it makes me happy.
I also have approval for a Bentley turbo when my balls have grown.....
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