Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 12]

[MorganP104]

Patrick Bateman said:

Don't forget rust.

Don't spoil it.

Joking apart, the E38/E39 models I've owned were almost entirely rust-free, despite my cars being well into shed territory. Is rust a big problem with the E39, and I've just been lucky?

[tobinen]

As a former 210 owner and a current 20 year old 140, rust is impossible to forget

[Patrick Bateman]

MorganP104 said:

Don't spoil it.

Joking apart, the E38/E39 models I've owned were almost entirely rust-free, despite my cars being well into shed territory. Is rust a big problem with the E39, and I've just been lucky?

I'm sure there's always the Scotland factor but I'll stick with it definitely being something to expect/be aware of when buying.

[MorganP104]

tobinen said:

As a former 210 owner and a current 20 year old 140, rust is impossible to forget

I'm sure PB is very sorry for re-opening old wounds.

For my part, I'm very sorry for quoting PB's post, where he mentions rust. And for quoting your post, where you also mention rust.

And for mentioning the word "rust" two (no, three) times in this post.

[tobinen]

No need to apologise. It's an accepted part of my life now, according to my psychotherapist. I embrace it

[Zonergem]

I can only surmise that a bargiste must have seen that and NOT shared it, for fear of drawing attention to it and increasing the competition. Otherwise the thread needs to take a long, hard look at itself and admit that we dropped the ball there.

[Slow]

Patrick Bateman said:

MorganP104 said:

Don't spoil it.

Joking apart, the E38/E39 models I've owned were almost entirely rust-free, despite my cars being well into shed territory. Is rust a big problem with the E39, and I've just been lucky?

I'm sure there's always the Scotland factor but I'll stick with it definitely being something to expect/be aware of when buying.

My e38 was rotten, my l322 range rover was rotten, my e46 is rotten, everything ive ever bought over 10 years old in Scotland has been rotten to some extent.

[bob-lad]

Easternlight said:

Rare 3 pedal mini barge, a tad over budget and one for the lovers of black over black.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

On the subject of rare options.

[MorganP104]

Slow said:

Patrick Bateman said:

MorganP104 said:

Don't spoil it.

Joking apart, the E38/E39 models I've owned were almost entirely rust-free, despite my cars being well into shed territory. Is rust a big problem with the E39, and I've just been lucky?

I'm sure there's always the Scotland factor but I'll stick with it definitely being something to expect/be aware of when buying.

My e38 was rotten, my l322 range rover was rotten, my e46 is rotten, everything ive ever bought over 10 years old in Scotland has been rotten to some extent.

Wow! After hearing that, I'm pretty glad I don't live in Scotland.

My E38 was solid (despite being 15-odd years old), and my L322 is still solid (and that's 16 years old). I think the last properly rusty car I owned was a 1983 Ford Escort XR3i. Man, that thing was as shot as a month-old pear. I've had cars with rust since, but nothing that I'd describe as being rotten.

[Croutons]

em177 said:

rsbmw said:

If I was ready to buy, it would have to be this Super V8

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

You know you’ll never find the right car when the time right. Get it bought

Sunroof and rear screens too. That would be a lovely way to waft.

[andy43]

Guessing this'll end up near thread max but it's luvverley. Dark green metallic CLS with olive (??) leather, distronic, parktronic, rear blind, heated/cooled/massage seats, a proper engine... Somebody went wild with the spec when they were ordering it. Warning : advert is terrible. But it's done sensible miles and money's been spent. Never seen one this colour before - in the flesh and nicely polished I'd imagine it looks stunning.
Go green

[rsbmw]

For such a massive barge, those CLS seem to have no rear legroom at all.

Also, how does one start it if the engine start button doesn't work?

[bob-lad]

Probably the same way you do if an ignition key fails to work.

Break it or call out someone to fix it.

[bob-lad]

andy43 said:

Guessing this'll end up near thread max but it's luvverley. Dark green metallic CLS with olive (??) leather, distronic, parktronic, rear blind, heated/cooled/massage seats, a proper engine... Somebody went wild with the spec when they were ordering it. Warning : advert is terrible. But it's done sensible miles and money's been spent. Never seen one this colour before - in the flesh and nicely polished I'd imagine it looks stunning.

Go green

Bizarre photos. Pile of mud, dirty carpet, dash in the dark.

[andy43]

rsbmw said:

For such a massive barge, those CLS seem to have no rear legroom at all.

Also, how does one start it if the engine start button doesn't work?

Seats are right back in the pic. Keyless go - can start by twisting the key in the iginition if the knob-button doesn't work.
I'm nosey so I've decoded the build sheet - Andradite Green Metallic with designo Graphite Green leather. Mega spec

[Krikkit]

Dreadful advert, but looks quite good. Pretty high on the spec sheet - Designo interior, COMAND, heated/cooled/memory dynamic seats, distronic.

Incidentally the keyless go cards might be NLA from Mercedes (assuming they're the same as the W211), in either case you still get the standard keys in addition to the keyless fobs.

[Lowtimer]

MorganP104 said:

Don't spoil it.

Joking apart, the E38/E39 models I've owned were almost entirely rust-free, despite my cars being well into shed territory. Is rust a big problem with the E39, and I've just been lucky?

I've had a few surface scabs on my three over the years but the only thing that was proper rusty was the leading edge of the bonnet of one of them, where an untreated stone chip under the auspices of a previous owner had taken hold.

My current one is a December 2000 build, 170K miles, a car which was used very hard and somewhat subject to bodily neglect by previous owners.

That bonnet edge aside, when we repainted it last winter all the surface scabs turned out to be purely superficial and cleaned right up - not a single bit of welding needed. Which for a 17 year old car seemed pretty good to me. The replacement bonnet I got off a scrapper for £50, which was of a similar age tto my car, was completely spotless.

I have seen a few some which were definitely rusty though. But given that the youngest will be 15 this year, and the oldest are 22, and they are generally cars left out and used in all weathers, I think they do pretty well.

[Mr Ponkerson]

r129sl said:

That's kind of what I have in mind. I'm asking £2,750 but I'd probably take £1.50 for it.

I'm getting the free r230 SL500 this week, and I am minded to turn that instantly rather than enjoy it for a while.

if only I could stretch that far (looking like my budget is going to be closer to £2k )

[r129sl]

Mr Ponkerson said:

r129sl said:

That's kind of what I have in mind. I'm asking £2,750 but I'd probably take £1.50 for it.

I'm getting the free r230 SL500 this week, and I am minded to turn that instantly rather than enjoy it for a while.

if only I could stretch that far (looking like my budget is going to be closer to £2k )

I’ve been talked out of the E500 by the Boss Woman and my E500-owning chum. The vendor has been on twice, however: I suspect he’s keen to sell. I also suspect he’s trading: he hasn’t had it long and used to work for MB Maidstone.

TBH I’m never that bothered when selling: the objective is just to get rid and move on to the next money pit. On which note, the r230 SL500 arrives tomorrow. I’m already £444 down for a year’s insurance.

The loaded green CLS is attractive.

Edited by r129sl on Monday 26th February 17:29

[PowerslideSWE]

Re: e39/e38 rust.

Living where I live (Sweden) means cold and long winters and salt on the roads to a simply idiotic extent so cars rust, alot. I've had 4 e38's, 2 nice rust free ones, both were very scaresly if at all driven during the cold months during their lives and not at all by me and it showed, no visible rust, maybe some was hiding but they were fine looking cars, the other 2, one 750 and the latest one my 728 are as rotten as old fruit on the body atleast, the 728 spectacularly failed its MOT today but looked immaculate if somewhat dirty underneith. All 7 of the e39's I've owned apart from the M5 have been more or less rusty, the earlier ones less than the later ones.

The M5 will stay, but there will be no cheap BMW barge to run as a daily from now on, legendary BMW ccv froze over the weekend, it was cold I admit but hardly Siberia, drove to work this morning in a cloud of oil smoke, blown rocker cover gasket, leaking like the Exxon Valdez. and leaving me stranded, unable to get to work... There will be a new'sih Toyota IQ or a VW Up or something similarly safe but utterly boring on my drive rather soon...

Edited by PowerslideSWE on Monday 26th February 18:03

Edited by PowerslideSWE on Monday 26th February 18:04