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mondayo said:
Mr Ponkerson]rinny said:
Now now... 
I won’t hear a bad word against my new bestie!
To tell a story...
Brilliant!
I'd love to see the Venn diagram of old enough to drive, not old enough for bottled water and old enough for a snickers.....I won’t hear a bad word against my new bestie!
To tell a story...
Brilliant!
Great story
Croutons said:
Sorry I didn't make the barge meet.
I was going to bring my 745, but a coolant leak meant I resorted to my old silver impreza.
I'd said to my new missus that I'd take her and her kids too, but I got a puncture and the lock nut was at home.
Shame.
I was going to bring my 745, but a coolant leak meant I resorted to my old silver impreza.
I'd said to my new missus that I'd take her and her kids too, but I got a puncture and the lock nut was at home.
Shame.
This is why this thread is so good - the raconteur & wit of the participants never fails to deliver. One thing to change though - the nut was definitely with us! (I could sell him a bridge in London, I’m sure, but at the end of the day, he’s in work, - or better at spinning BS than I gave him credit for - to paraphrase the late Mr. Adams, “Mostly Harmless”).
R129sl said:
Did an Impreza ever turn up?
Nope - and believe me, I was looking!Oh, and as to the earlier comment - don’t think it was a park run specifically, I got the impression that “runners of Humberside do it across the bridge”, and back. (snigger).
Prinny said:
Croutons said:
Sorry I didn't make the barge meet.
I was going to bring my 745, but a coolant leak meant I resorted to my old silver impreza.
I'd said to my new missus that I'd take her and her kids too, but I got a puncture and the lock nut was at home.
Shame.
I was going to bring my 745, but a coolant leak meant I resorted to my old silver impreza.
I'd said to my new missus that I'd take her and her kids too, but I got a puncture and the lock nut was at home.
Shame.
This is why this thread is so good - the raconteur & wit of the participants never fails to deliver. TobyLerone said:
I don't mean to nit-pick, but this is a myth that won't die.
Cars don't pick up any more crap when the fuel is low, than when you've got a tank full (there are a few exceptions, but they are few, and far between). The fuel pump pickups are mounted at the lowest part of the fuel tank, and usually have a gauze type sock on them to strain out the chunks before the pump.
The fuel pickup position doesn't change, no matter how full your tank is.
What I will say is; running your tank dry all the time isn't super clever. Your fuel pump/s require petrol as a sealant, lubricant and coolant. If you run them dry, you can damage them and reduce their pumping efficiency, or even kill them altogether.
I have never had a problem with running a petrol engine low, but I know that if I run my diesel Isuzu NKR van low the engine becomes unresponsive, sometimes even kangarooing until I fit a new fuel filterCars don't pick up any more crap when the fuel is low, than when you've got a tank full (there are a few exceptions, but they are few, and far between). The fuel pump pickups are mounted at the lowest part of the fuel tank, and usually have a gauze type sock on them to strain out the chunks before the pump.
The fuel pickup position doesn't change, no matter how full your tank is.
What I will say is; running your tank dry all the time isn't super clever. Your fuel pump/s require petrol as a sealant, lubricant and coolant. If you run them dry, you can damage them and reduce their pumping efficiency, or even kill them altogether.
bassanclan said:
I have never had a problem with running a petrol engine low, but I know that if I run my diesel Isuzu NKR van low the engine becomes unresponsive, sometimes even kangarooing until I fit a new fuel filter
Could be a few reasons - weak fuel lift pump / fuel tank pump (depending on system). Some filters are dead if they ever drain empty too - the filtration element chemically changes and becomes harder to flow fuel through, which is especially obvious at high fuel-demand situations.Also, while the amount of dirt stays the same, no matter how much fuel you have in your tank, the concentration becomes higher the less fuel you have. That is to say if you have a full tank, and hit a bump, the particles of crap and sediment are fairly diluted in the tank's contents. Less so if you're running at 10% capacity.
Condensation is less of an issue with full tanks of fuel too, since there's much less air.
And confirmation bias too... it's not entirely clear cut, but having a low fuel level doesn't mean your fuel pickup is suddenly somehow picking up the sediment...
Yes, I am a very boring person.
Was watching an old "Wheeler Dealers" the other day - a Jaguar XK8 that they bought and did up as a competition prize (nice car!)
Lanky Edd did a fancy fuel cleaning job on the engine.
Any bargists shelled out on getting this done - the improvements on the Jag engine were apparently pretty stellar, but is it worth it for the average six-figure-mileage big petrol engine?
Lanky Edd did a fancy fuel cleaning job on the engine.
Any bargists shelled out on getting this done - the improvements on the Jag engine were apparently pretty stellar, but is it worth it for the average six-figure-mileage big petrol engine?
phil_cardiff said:
BlueMR2 said:
Not quite a barge, however as this thread has the best knowledge on the forum.
My relative is looking for a new (old) car. The current focus saloon is on its way out and trying to MOT it would be a waste of £50 so something needs to be found in the next couple of months.
Looking around I found an 04 RAV4, 2L petrol just under £2k, it was only a couple of miles away but unfortunately sold before we could get there to look at it.
Recently retired, he will spend a fair bit of his time doing local driving 1-20 miles with 200mile motorway trips a number of times a year up to Scotland.
With a set of cross climate type tyres and 4 wheel drive, i'd imagine that would be able to cope with all but the worst snow. Plenty of room for his dog in the back and enough space if he is giving someone else a lift.
It appears it is fairly cheap for general consumables, I checked ECP and with the latest discount code air, oil and cabin filters, oil, 4 spark plugs, wipers all round, thermostat and disks and pads for all 4 corners was under £200. With the right discount, probably could do a £20 oil change.
Does anyone have any experience of running these? Are they reliable in your experience?
Only interested in the petrol version, the diesel sounds like it has alot of problems and isn't suitable for the regular short journeys the car will make and the petrol uses a timing chain.
Looking at 5 door XT? models as the vehicle needs to be Euro 4 for soon to be introduced LEZ purposes.
Between me and my family we've run about 4 late 90s - mid 00s Toyotas but never a Rav 4. All have been very, very reliable. All they've ever needed is consumables. My relative is looking for a new (old) car. The current focus saloon is on its way out and trying to MOT it would be a waste of £50 so something needs to be found in the next couple of months.
Looking around I found an 04 RAV4, 2L petrol just under £2k, it was only a couple of miles away but unfortunately sold before we could get there to look at it.
Recently retired, he will spend a fair bit of his time doing local driving 1-20 miles with 200mile motorway trips a number of times a year up to Scotland.
With a set of cross climate type tyres and 4 wheel drive, i'd imagine that would be able to cope with all but the worst snow. Plenty of room for his dog in the back and enough space if he is giving someone else a lift.
It appears it is fairly cheap for general consumables, I checked ECP and with the latest discount code air, oil and cabin filters, oil, 4 spark plugs, wipers all round, thermostat and disks and pads for all 4 corners was under £200. With the right discount, probably could do a £20 oil change.
Does anyone have any experience of running these? Are they reliable in your experience?
Only interested in the petrol version, the diesel sounds like it has alot of problems and isn't suitable for the regular short journeys the car will make and the petrol uses a timing chain.
Looking at 5 door XT? models as the vehicle needs to be Euro 4 for soon to be introduced LEZ purposes.
My neighbour has a 2006 Rav 4 diesel on about 150k miles and it soldiers on, he doesn't look after it.
Think you'd be just fine recommending one.
As his new company car (S60 D5) was delayed due to high demand, the RAV4 had to go for an MOT, i don't think the lease company was thrilled when they found out it had never had a service. It spent a couple of years doing weekly trips from Leeds to Glasgow at the time, I don't think it had as much as a set of brake pads in that time.
One of those would have been a good buy for £1k-1.5k, just doesn't reach the emission standards required.
Just got to try and find a well looked after one at a decent price.
As he's not minicabbing it, the W124 is not affected by the proposed Leeds low emissions charging zone.
https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
BlueMR2 said:
Not quite a barge, however as this thread has the best knowledge on the forum.
My relative is looking for a new (old) car. The current focus saloon is on its way out and trying to MOT it would be a waste of £50 so something needs to be found in the next couple of months.
Looking around I found an 04 RAV4, 2L petrol just under £2k, it was only a couple of miles away but unfortunately sold before we could get there to look at it.
Recently retired, he will spend a fair bit of his time doing local driving 1-20 miles with 200mile motorway trips a number of times a year up to Scotland.
With a set of cross climate type tyres and 4 wheel drive, i'd imagine that would be able to cope with all but the worst snow. Plenty of room for his dog in the back and enough space if he is giving someone else a lift.
It appears it is fairly cheap for general consumables, I checked ECP and with the latest discount code air, oil and cabin filters, oil, 4 spark plugs, wipers all round, thermostat and disks and pads for all 4 corners was under £200. With the right discount, probably could do a £20 oil change.
Does anyone have any experience of running these? Are they reliable in your experience?
Only interested in the petrol version, the diesel sounds like it has alot of problems and isn't suitable for the regular short journeys the car will make and the petrol uses a timing chain.
Looking at 5 door XT? models as the vehicle needs to be Euro 4 for soon to be introduced LEZ purposes.
I had a 2002 rav4 ( a facelift before the xt you are looking at) from new to just under 100k miles, it was pretty much faultless and just had regular servicing, it was a 2l petrol, we ran it on the stock tyres which all wore at about the same rate so replaced 4 at a time. It was a great car. We currently have a 2012 version and having spent the weekend on a 600 mile round trip i amazed at how uncomfortable it was - dont normally drive it! Been scouting autotrader all afternoon....My relative is looking for a new (old) car. The current focus saloon is on its way out and trying to MOT it would be a waste of £50 so something needs to be found in the next couple of months.
Looking around I found an 04 RAV4, 2L petrol just under £2k, it was only a couple of miles away but unfortunately sold before we could get there to look at it.
Recently retired, he will spend a fair bit of his time doing local driving 1-20 miles with 200mile motorway trips a number of times a year up to Scotland.
With a set of cross climate type tyres and 4 wheel drive, i'd imagine that would be able to cope with all but the worst snow. Plenty of room for his dog in the back and enough space if he is giving someone else a lift.
It appears it is fairly cheap for general consumables, I checked ECP and with the latest discount code air, oil and cabin filters, oil, 4 spark plugs, wipers all round, thermostat and disks and pads for all 4 corners was under £200. With the right discount, probably could do a £20 oil change.
Does anyone have any experience of running these? Are they reliable in your experience?
Only interested in the petrol version, the diesel sounds like it has alot of problems and isn't suitable for the regular short journeys the car will make and the petrol uses a timing chain.
Looking at 5 door XT? models as the vehicle needs to be Euro 4 for soon to be introduced LEZ purposes.
Lowtimer said:
As he's not minicabbing it, the W124 is not affected by the proposed Leeds low emissions charging zone.
https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
These things are getting very hard to understand, due to the fact that most people (me) just see the headlines "city diesel ban" when to really understand it you have to read all the subparagraph stuff to know it doesn't affect you ,by which time 75% of people have sold/scrapped a perfectly good car for next to nothing sadly https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
ian316 said:
Lowtimer said:
As he's not minicabbing it, the W124 is not affected by the proposed Leeds low emissions charging zone.
https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
These things are getting very hard to understand, due to the fact that most people (me) just see the headlines "city diesel ban" when to really understand it you have to read all the subparagraph stuff to know it doesn't affect you ,by which time 75% of people have sold/scrapped a perfectly good car for next to nothing sadly https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
I wouldn't be surprised if they ban pre E4 petrol and pre E6 diesel vehicles closer to the city centre pretty quickly.
The combination of "being forced" to do it to reduce emissions after the initial plan is unsuccessful and the whiff of £££, i can't imagine it will take long to change.
Interestingly, all the changes I have seen them do over the last couple of years have only increased queueing in my experience, thus increasing polloution. Leeds is very badly set out and timed for traffic.
sawman said:
BlueMR2 said:
Not quite a barge, however as this thread has the best knowledge on the forum.
My relative is looking for a new (old) car. The current focus saloon is on its way out and trying to MOT it would be a waste of £50 so something needs to be found in the next couple of months.
Looking around I found an 04 RAV4, 2L petrol just under £2k, it was only a couple of miles away but unfortunately sold before we could get there to look at it.
Recently retired, he will spend a fair bit of his time doing local driving 1-20 miles with 200mile motorway trips a number of times a year up to Scotland.
With a set of cross climate type tyres and 4 wheel drive, i'd imagine that would be able to cope with all but the worst snow. Plenty of room for his dog in the back and enough space if he is giving someone else a lift.
It appears it is fairly cheap for general consumables, I checked ECP and with the latest discount code air, oil and cabin filters, oil, 4 spark plugs, wipers all round, thermostat and disks and pads for all 4 corners was under £200. With the right discount, probably could do a £20 oil change.
Does anyone have any experience of running these? Are they reliable in your experience?
Only interested in the petrol version, the diesel sounds like it has alot of problems and isn't suitable for the regular short journeys the car will make and the petrol uses a timing chain.
Looking at 5 door XT? models as the vehicle needs to be Euro 4 for soon to be introduced LEZ purposes.
I had a 2002 rav4 ( a facelift before the xt you are looking at) from new to just under 100k miles, it was pretty much faultless and just had regular servicing, it was a 2l petrol, we ran it on the stock tyres which all wore at about the same rate so replaced 4 at a time. It was a great car. We currently have a 2012 version and having spent the weekend on a 600 mile round trip i amazed at how uncomfortable it was - dont normally drive it! Been scouting autotrader all afternoon....My relative is looking for a new (old) car. The current focus saloon is on its way out and trying to MOT it would be a waste of £50 so something needs to be found in the next couple of months.
Looking around I found an 04 RAV4, 2L petrol just under £2k, it was only a couple of miles away but unfortunately sold before we could get there to look at it.
Recently retired, he will spend a fair bit of his time doing local driving 1-20 miles with 200mile motorway trips a number of times a year up to Scotland.
With a set of cross climate type tyres and 4 wheel drive, i'd imagine that would be able to cope with all but the worst snow. Plenty of room for his dog in the back and enough space if he is giving someone else a lift.
It appears it is fairly cheap for general consumables, I checked ECP and with the latest discount code air, oil and cabin filters, oil, 4 spark plugs, wipers all round, thermostat and disks and pads for all 4 corners was under £200. With the right discount, probably could do a £20 oil change.
Does anyone have any experience of running these? Are they reliable in your experience?
Only interested in the petrol version, the diesel sounds like it has alot of problems and isn't suitable for the regular short journeys the car will make and the petrol uses a timing chain.
Looking at 5 door XT? models as the vehicle needs to be Euro 4 for soon to be introduced LEZ purposes.
I've also noticed car seats seem to be alot stiffer nowadays.
In the past you used to sit in the seat, now you tend to sit on them.
BlueMR2 said:
Whilst private vehicles are not showing as limited at first, they have also stated that the current proposal is not sufficient.
I wouldn't be surprised if they ban pre E4 petrol and pre E6 diesel vehicles closer to the city centre pretty quickly.
The combination of "being forced" to do it to reduce emissions after the initial plan is unsuccessful and the whiff of £££, i can't imagine it will take long to change.
Interestingly, all the changes I have seen them do over the last couple of years have only increased queueing in my experience, thus increasing polloution. Leeds is very badly set out and timed for traffic.
I don't think it's helping by different councils doing different options i'll soon have know idea when and where I can drive my w124 300d nationally I wouldn't be surprised if they ban pre E4 petrol and pre E6 diesel vehicles closer to the city centre pretty quickly.
The combination of "being forced" to do it to reduce emissions after the initial plan is unsuccessful and the whiff of £££, i can't imagine it will take long to change.
Interestingly, all the changes I have seen them do over the last couple of years have only increased queueing in my experience, thus increasing polloution. Leeds is very badly set out and timed for traffic.
BlueMR2 said:
ian316 said:
Lowtimer said:
As he's not minicabbing it, the W124 is not affected by the proposed Leeds low emissions charging zone.
https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
These things are getting very hard to understand, due to the fact that most people (me) just see the headlines "city diesel ban" when to really understand it you have to read all the subparagraph stuff to know it doesn't affect you ,by which time 75% of people have sold/scrapped a perfectly good car for next to nothing sadly https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
I wouldn't be surprised if they ban pre E4 petrol and pre E6 diesel vehicles closer to the city centre pretty quickly.
The combination of "being forced" to do it to reduce emissions after the initial plan is unsuccessful and the whiff of £££, i can't imagine it will take long to change.
Interestingly, all the changes I have seen them do over the last couple of years have only increased queueing in my experience, thus increasing polloution. Leeds is very badly set out and timed for traffic.
What I would really like is a Monaégasque registration. Or four. How is it done? What about Manx registration? I assume it is simple a matter of setting up a shell company in whatever jurisdiction?
r129sl said:
I don't go often enough for any charge to put me off. At the moment it would have to be, say, more than £50. That's not because I have money coming out of my ears, it is just realistic. A first class return to Leeds costs £140, plus parking at the Newcastle end and taxis at the Leeds end, so the car remains preferable.
What I would really like is a Monaégasque registration. Or four. How is it done? What about Manx registration? I assume it is simple a matter of setting up a shell company in whatever jurisdiction?
Never thought of the IOM I've got a cousin there wonder if I could register mine at her address? What I would really like is a Monaégasque registration. Or four. How is it done? What about Manx registration? I assume it is simple a matter of setting up a shell company in whatever jurisdiction?
r129sl said:
BlueMR2 said:
ian316 said:
Lowtimer said:
As he's not minicabbing it, the W124 is not affected by the proposed Leeds low emissions charging zone.
https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
These things are getting very hard to understand, due to the fact that most people (me) just see the headlines "city diesel ban" when to really understand it you have to read all the subparagraph stuff to know it doesn't affect you ,by which time 75% of people have sold/scrapped a perfectly good car for next to nothing sadly https://www.leeds.gov.uk/business/environmental-he...
I wouldn't be surprised if they ban pre E4 petrol and pre E6 diesel vehicles closer to the city centre pretty quickly.
The combination of "being forced" to do it to reduce emissions after the initial plan is unsuccessful and the whiff of £££, i can't imagine it will take long to change.
Interestingly, all the changes I have seen them do over the last couple of years have only increased queueing in my experience, thus increasing polloution. Leeds is very badly set out and timed for traffic.
What I would really like is a Monaégasque registration. Or four. How is it done? What about Manx registration? I assume it is simple a matter of setting up a shell company in whatever jurisdiction?
It will be interesting to find out what other citys do as iirc there are at least 5 that have been told to get a zone implemented.
Together with all the other work and putting 20mph limits everywhere, living in Leeds is getting abit embarrassing.
ian316 said:
BlueMR2 said:
Whilst private vehicles are not showing as limited at first, they have also stated that the current proposal is not sufficient.
I wouldn't be surprised if they ban pre E4 petrol and pre E6 diesel vehicles closer to the city centre pretty quickly.
The combination of "being forced" to do it to reduce emissions after the initial plan is unsuccessful and the whiff of £££, i can't imagine it will take long to change.
Interestingly, all the changes I have seen them do over the last couple of years have only increased queueing in my experience, thus increasing polloution. Leeds is very badly set out and timed for traffic.
I don't think it's helping by different councils doing different options i'll soon have know idea when and where I can drive my w124 300d nationally I wouldn't be surprised if they ban pre E4 petrol and pre E6 diesel vehicles closer to the city centre pretty quickly.
The combination of "being forced" to do it to reduce emissions after the initial plan is unsuccessful and the whiff of £££, i can't imagine it will take long to change.
Interestingly, all the changes I have seen them do over the last couple of years have only increased queueing in my experience, thus increasing polloution. Leeds is very badly set out and timed for traffic.
Google will have a fair bit to do, adding the zones and specifying whether you want to avoid charging zones on Google maps.
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