RE: PH Bloodline: Range Rover SVR

[DonkeyApple]

Max_Torque said:

If you are going back, right back, then you surely have to start with an earlier 'tuner' car:






Ok, back in the mid 80's it consisted of an aftermarket kit, with a 5.7 Yanky V8 motor slung in the front, some stiffer springs and dampers, maybe even an antiroll bar or two (at the time, RRs didn't even have ARBs....)

But that is where the 'road oriented' performance SUV started.

My father bought one of the first ones through a main dealer in 85/86 and I owned the last one made.





Very amusing cars. You also had the Lichfields, JEs and Janspeed companies all making road focussed, high performance SUVs from the late 70s.

No doubt the Cayenne Turbo set the modern benchmark and redefined the market but high performance SUVs were an 80s thing, it's just that only Range Rover were building a high end SUV back then.

[leakymanifold]

Helicopter123 said:

Saw two RR being 'rescued' today by breakdown teams - one a 17 plate and the other a 16. I don't think i've ever seen or heard of a Cayenne disgracing itself in this way, although I'm sure they must. Some of the early ones are getting on a but now.

Stop it. There is nothing that can be drawn from observing two single events about the overall reliability of a given product. st happens all the time to all types of car due to the nature of chance. They are very complex pieces of kit and the more expensive ones are the most complex. I've got a skoda superb. Its had its engine rebuilt....but that doesn't mean all Skoda Superbs are crappy.

[smilo996]

If SUV's were not as quick as normal estate cars then fewer people would buy them and have nowhere to put their egos and sense of self importance.

[DonkeyApple]

smilo996 said:

If SUV's were not as quick as normal estate cars then fewer people would buy them and have nowhere to put their egos and sense of self importance.

They'd just all go back to buying 911s.

[RepeatOffender]

The first of this type I ever remember being amazed by was the GMC Syclone/Typhoon.

Insane performance for the time.

[Cotic]

Great article, thanks.

However this 'separate chassis' rule has been broken several times in the list, and to be honest, I can't really see why it's such an issue. The original RRS Supercharged was as quick as the German rivals at the time, and the SVR was born from that, surely?

[Walter Sobchak]

Cold said:

You're kidding, right?
http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayenne/14071/porsche...
Some bullet points:

*Gbox: reliable(!) apart from potential catastrophic failure of the valveblock £1800
*Suspn: reliable(!) apart from failing air pumps £1600
*Body: Front area OK(!) apart from scuttle tubes leaking onto fusebox and ABS controller killing them.
Rear area OK(!) apart from rear tubes leaking onto main ECU causing faulty lights and indicators before dying.

So similar types of both silly and major failures that can sometimes hamper Range Rovers except you don't get pub experts spouting on about Cayenne Turbos with tales of "One of my mate's mate had one and..."
And this is before we talk about the habit that the engine in the S has for wearing out its Lokasil lining and then the bores and pistons subsequently eating themselves.
Surely a beacon of reliability?

I knew about the early S having engine issues so would avoid one, the Turbo overall does seem to be less plagued by issues than RRs, going from personal experience a close friend has had 2 Cayenne Turbos and the only issue he had was the coolant pipes needed changing, I’ve had 3 RRs- 2 L322s and an RRS and experienced both niggly and major problems across the board, I eventually admitted defeat and bought a Landcruiser but in fairness they’re not remotely sporty so shouldn’t really be mentioned here.

[cowboyengineer]

Turbobanana said:

Also, when towing a 911, shouldn't it be on the trailer backwards to put the weight of the engine over the tow ball?

No, I can put my gt3 on my trailer nose first and still get the required nose weight of around 140kg

[Aeroresh]

Pesty said:

I still lust after these.

I have one....its surprisingly good and breath of fresh air compared with the european opposition. Some of the interior plastics are a bit crappy compared to the opposition, and external fit and finish is rubbsh, but the engine is immense and more than makes up for any shortcomings in the trim department, 90% of a cayenne turbo but 2/3rds the price

[GranCab]

Cayennes and Towrags = transfer case problems ..... A friend's wife's Cayenne has suffered this issue - German SUV reliability isn't all it's cracked up to be

https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-cayenne-forum/...

[aaron_2000]

GranCab said:

Cayennes and Towrags = transfer case problems ..... A friend's wife's Cayenne has suffered this issue - German SUV reliability isn't all it's cracked up to be

https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-cayenne-forum/...

I don't think you can really beat the Land Cruiser for ability and reliability, but the Touareg has always been the best choice to me. I think the interior of the current one is still absolutely fantastic

[Davismatt]

I want a G63 AMG, or even better the Brabus G Wagen, so bad I can taste it!!

[Martin_Hx]

We have a ML55 AMG 2002 and its hilarious how quick it picks up speed for a big old bus

Sounds tasty too!