RE: 'Porsche Passport' launched in USA

[99dndd]

They should have called it Passporsche

[red_slr]

CoolHands said:

There will be a thousand limits on this that haven't been released yet.

Knowing Porsche I actually doubt it you know. They are a very open company and IME once you are a good customer its pretty much "do what you want" in their cars. I have had several cars on weekend test and never even been asked for fuel. At the PEC its a case of rag it to death (or at least try) and so long as you are not getting told off by control for excessive tyre smoking its do what you want.

I have a feeling there will be a waiting list for this and applications will be limited / vetted.

I also doubt customers will make use of this all month, so the daily cost will be a lot higher than 66 bucks but the reality is a couple of grand is probably a drop in the ocean to someone who is flying in and out of the city a couple of weekends a month on their jet.

[anonymous-user]

All well and good, how will it work for those who don't live in London ...

I'd be interested, it'd be nice to swap between a Macan, Boxster and Cayman dependent on the weather / season.

[SpeckledJim]

red_slr said:

CoolHands said:

There will be a thousand limits on this that haven't been released yet.

Knowing Porsche I actually doubt it you know. They are a very open company and IME once you are a good customer its pretty much "do what you want" in their cars. I have had several cars on weekend test and never even been asked for fuel. At the PEC its a case of rag it to death (or at least try) and so long as you are not getting told off by control for excessive tyre smoking its do what you want.

I have a feeling there will be a waiting list for this and applications will be limited / vetted.

I also doubt customers will make use of this all month, so the daily cost will be a lot higher than 66 bucks but the reality is a couple of grand is probably a drop in the ocean to someone who is flying in and out of the city a couple of weekends a month on their jet.

What's the depreciation on a 1-year old Cayman or 911 with 50,000 miles on the clock? Surely that is something they will HAVE to limit?

[red_slr]

SpeckledJim said:

red_slr said:

CoolHands said:

There will be a thousand limits on this that haven't been released yet.

Knowing Porsche I actually doubt it you know. They are a very open company and IME once you are a good customer its pretty much "do what you want" in their cars. I have had several cars on weekend test and never even been asked for fuel. At the PEC its a case of rag it to death (or at least try) and so long as you are not getting told off by control for excessive tyre smoking its do what you want.

I have a feeling there will be a waiting list for this and applications will be limited / vetted.

I also doubt customers will make use of this all month, so the daily cost will be a lot higher than 66 bucks but the reality is a couple of grand is probably a drop in the ocean to someone who is flying in and out of the city a couple of weekends a month on their jet.

What's the depreciation on a 1-year old Cayman or 911 with 50,000 miles on the clock? Surely that is something they will HAVE to limit?

I don't see why not. I doubt the cars will be utilised to that extent. Taxis struggle to do 50k a year so I think you are more in the 15-20k miles zone.

I also suspect the cars will be put into stock at 6 months. Plus they might even save money on R&D / on going testing they do.

[Carl_Manchester]

Great idea. Sounds too cheap to me.

Surely the Motosport add-on package is a no-brainier for the uk.

Doubt it will be London only as no doubt they will use their OPC network for logistics.

[rxe]

$3000 will turn into £3000 over here, so £36K a year to drive any Porsche you want. Seems like a lot, but for a high performance car that you can drive like you stole it, it might be a bargain.

IMO their problem will be this.

People will buy this for a year or 6 months. They will rag the cars rotten - why wouldn't you? You're not on the hook for maintenance, it's not your car, they're not your tyres .....

After a year of a different Porsche every day, one of two things will happen. You'll either get bored of the whole concept, and just plump for "a car", or you'll say "done Porsche, now I'm off to do BMW". And the cycle will begin again.

[SpeckledJim]

red_slr said:

SpeckledJim said:

red_slr said:

CoolHands said:

There will be a thousand limits on this that haven't been released yet.

Knowing Porsche I actually doubt it you know. They are a very open company and IME once you are a good customer its pretty much "do what you want" in their cars. I have had several cars on weekend test and never even been asked for fuel. At the PEC its a case of rag it to death (or at least try) and so long as you are not getting told off by control for excessive tyre smoking its do what you want.

I have a feeling there will be a waiting list for this and applications will be limited / vetted.

I also doubt customers will make use of this all month, so the daily cost will be a lot higher than 66 bucks but the reality is a couple of grand is probably a drop in the ocean to someone who is flying in and out of the city a couple of weekends a month on their jet.

What's the depreciation on a 1-year old Cayman or 911 with 50,000 miles on the clock? Surely that is something they will HAVE to limit?

I don't see why not. I doubt the cars will be utilised to that extent. Taxis struggle to do 50k a year so I think you are more in the 15-20k miles zone.

I also suspect the cars will be put into stock at 6 months. Plus they might even save money on R&D / on going testing they do.

If you do 40 or 50k a year as a rep or high-class tart or whatever, the lease costs on your A6 or XF or whatever are high, because in 3 years the cars are worth nothing.

If for a little more you could do it in a Porsche, you would. I bet there's a 'fair use' policy somewhere in the background.

[speedking31]

Scottie - NW said:

Isn't there a problem here, in that monday to friday most people will all want one type of car, then they will all want the fun one at the weekend, so demand is not balanced out across the models well?

This is a problem for someone setting up a multibrand equivalent. They have to buy (maybe lease) the cars and end up with a lot of Skodas that are not being rented out for which they have to cover costs. However Porsche already owns these cars and is already taking the depreciation hit. They can take them out of the system and sell them on at any time to balance their supply / demand.

HardtopManual said:

It sounds too good to be true. Tool about in whatever new Porsche takes your fancy for £1500 a month, all-in (except fuel, of course).

They won't be new after the first month. After 12 months you'll be paying the same fee for a 30,000 mile battered boxster.

[Ares]

speedking31 said:

hey won't be new after the first month. After 12 months you'll be paying the same fee for a 30,000 mile battered boxster.

Not sure - top flight hire car companies change cars after 3-6 months to prevent high mileage and protect residuals.

[SpeckledJim]

Ares said:

speedking31 said:

hey won't be new after the first month. After 12 months you'll be paying the same fee for a 30,000 mile battered boxster.

Not sure - top flight hire car companies change cars after 3-6 months to prevent high mileage and protect residuals.

That's true, but as noted above, Enterprise charge $350 a day for a Porsche.

This is $66.

[belleair302]

Interesting idea, but what happens if 700 people all want the same cars on the same day, usually a weekend? Like the Super car clubs a few years ago, you could never get what you wanted as somebody else had it. I just dont see it working. Cheap money for a track day but they wont allow this!!

[Ares]

SpeckledJim said:

That's true, but as noted above, Enterprise charge $350 a day for a Porsche.

This is $66.

Rack rate, you can get for a lot less.

But this is also direct from Porsche, it will cost them a lot less to own than Hire car companies

[SN Muffin]

I really like this idea, but at the same time, a lot of people would like to customise a car, remap, wrap put a new exhaust on it etc. Granted not many people would wrap a Porsche but I don't think under this subscription you would be allowed to do any modifications to the cars?

[SpeckledJim]

SN Muffin said:

I really like this idea, but at the same time, a lot of people would like to customise a car, remap, wrap put a new exhaust on it etc. Granted not many people would wrap a Porsche but I don't think under this subscription you would be allowed to do any modifications to the cars?

Actually, almost nobody likes to do this.

You just notice the ones who do more. Which is why they do it.

[Ares]

SpeckledJim said:

SN Muffin said:

I really like this idea, but at the same time, a lot of people would like to customise a car, remap, wrap put a new exhaust on it etc. Granted not many people would wrap a Porsche but I don't think under this subscription you would be allowed to do any modifications to the cars?

Actually, almost nobody likes to do this.

You just notice the ones who do more. Which is why they do it.

Exactly - you get the same argument with leasing, "Wouldn't lease because you can't modify the car". Reality is, very few people would (aftermarket) modify a brand new car, especially a £50k plus car.

....although I did. Huge minority though, and only once.

[WCZ]

rxe said:

$3000 will turn into £3000 over here, so £36K a year to drive any Porsche you want. Seems like a lot, but for a high performance car that you can drive like you stole it, it might be a bargain.

IMO their problem will be this.

People will buy this for a year or 6 months. They will rag the cars rotten - why wouldn't you? You're not on the hook for maintenance, it's not your car, they're not your tyres .....

After a year of a different Porsche every day, one of two things will happen. You'll either get bored of the whole concept, and just plump for "a car", or you'll say "done Porsche, now I'm off to do BMW". And the cycle will begin again.

you won't get to drive the only models people actually want, 911 turbo s, gt3, gt3rs imo

[offshoreeddy]

Great idea imo - except I expect if it makes it to the UK, like most everything else, then that $3000 USD will simply become £3000 GBP instead of £2200 GBP as it should be at current exchange rates.

[SN Muffin]

Ares said:

Exactly - you get the same argument with leasing, "Wouldn't lease because you can't modify the car". Reality is, very few people would (aftermarket) modify a brand new car, especially a £50k plus car.

....although I did. Huge minority though, and only once.

Good point didn't think about that, You mind me asking what car it was ?

[Ares]

SN Muffin said:

Ares said:

Exactly - you get the same argument with leasing, "Wouldn't lease because you can't modify the car". Reality is, very few people would (aftermarket) modify a brand new car, especially a £50k plus car.

....although I did. Huge minority though, and only once.

Good point didn't think about that, You mind me asking what car it was ?

640d GC - had the Schnitzer Performance Pack & suspension fitted, by a BMW dealer ironically.