RE: Abarth 124 Spider vs. Mazda MX-5 2.0

RE: Abarth 124 Spider vs. Mazda MX-5 2.0

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WJNB

2,637 posts

162 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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The side profile of the Mazda looks as if somebody has crashed it into a wall & the front wings crushed skywards. It really is a titchy awkward looking thing with a mean sized cabin & boot, the former dominated by a laptop that somebody had left behind.
Rightly said it's no sports car more a fun al fresco toy.
The first 2 versions of the MX-5 now look even better.

ZX10R NIN

27,648 posts

126 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I prefer the looks of the 124 the price would be a hinderance but hey it's an individual choice.

treeroy

564 posts

86 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I had a mk2 MX-5 and absolutely loved it, best car I've driven by a long way. Super fun accelerating with a great induction noise, and even more fun throwing it around a corner.

But I had to replace it with a new car as the underside of the car resembled an exploded bomb. I test drove the 2.0 new MX-5 and was really quite disappointed by it. It felt much more insulated and disconnected from the road. Didn't like the electric steering at all, couldn't really feel what the car was doing. It was quiet and speedy and smooth but that wasn't what I wanted from it - give me the proper old MX-5 any day of the week.

between the MX-5 and the Abarth, the 124 looks great and abarth is probably more fun. Not sure what justifies the huge pricetag though, especially when Abarth 500 series are so cheap.

Edited by treeroy on Thursday 12th October 17:31

Bright Halo

2,977 posts

236 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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There’s a normal Fiat 124 right?
So they should have made the Abarth more extreme, bigger more powerful engine, more extreme suspension set up etc.

treeroy

564 posts

86 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Bright Halo said:
There’s a normal Fiat 124 right?
So they should have made the Abarth more extreme, bigger more powerful engine, more extreme suspension set up etc.
The abarth has 30bhp more than the normal one (20% more than the normal one). The thing is the 124 starts as a sports car, whereas the 500 does not, so the jump isn't going to be as much.

jenkosrugby

80 posts

221 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Abarth is quicker, lighter, more economical and cheaper on tax, worth mentioning when trying to justify the price tag.....I sat in one recently at the abarth showroom and have to say it did feel special. A bit of a strange one though, I have an Abarth 595 with the same engine as the 124, I absolutely love my 595, the engine especially....but, and here's the rub, I wouldn't want it in a 2 seater open top sports car. So, Im still sat on the fence!

treeroy

564 posts

86 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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jenkosrugby said:
Abarth is quicker, lighter, more economical and cheaper on tax, worth mentioning when trying to justify the price tag.....I sat in one recently at the abarth showroom and have to say it did feel special. A bit of a strange one though, I have an Abarth 595 with the same engine as the 124, I absolutely love my 595, the engine especially....but, and here's the rub, I wouldn't want it in a 2 seater open top sports car. So, Im still sat on the fence!
Yes, I sat in an abarth 124 at a dealer and thought it felt great inside.

Otispunkmeyer

12,611 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Mx5 for me. Oh wait I'm too tall and can't fit. frown

Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

175 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
I prefer the looks of the 124 the price would be a hinderance but hey it's an individual choice.
I bought a 124 Lusso because it wasn't as shouty as the Abarth and I didn't need the extra 30 horses, jiggly suspension and red rev counter. Yeah, a limited slip diff would be nice but not for the extra 7 grand the Abarth is.

I think it's the better car overall.

I'd have bought an MX 5 otherwise but couldn't get over the way they look, just a bit dumpy for me.

chrispmartha

15,501 posts

130 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Shouldn’t the Mazda be up against the actual Fiat version not the Abarth? The Abarth will always carry a premium.

Anyway i’m in the minoriry i think the Abarth is far better looking especially in real life

hedgeperson

39 posts

178 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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They both look like ste, fact. No thanks.

Cheers,
Hedge

ecsrobin

17,146 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Mx5 for me. Oh wait I'm too tall and can't fit. frown
But you’d fit in a 124. I’m 6’3” and fit fine. I also think it looks great however the price needs to drop a bit before it becomes competitive.

As for power the Abarth with a remap is going to be close to 200bhp for a small price.

A124S

3 posts

82 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I’ve just purchased a one year old Abarth 124 Spider with just 650 miles on it after considering buying a new one. This had the exact same spec I would have ordered new and was over a £9K saving!

As the car passes its first year anniversary, I think there are some good deals around on used – certainly happy with the deal I got.
Picking it up in the morning and looking forward to the first drive in it. I’ve yet to actually see an Abarth 124 Spider on the road (apart from the ones I have seen at Abarth dealers). It will be interesting to see how many people ask me what make it is with it being such a rare car!

ecsrobin

17,146 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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A124S said:
I’ve just purchased a one year old Abarth 124 Spider with just 650 miles on it after considering buying a new one. This had the exact same spec I would have ordered new and was over a £9K saving!

As the car passes its first year anniversary, I think there are some good deals around on used – certainly happy with the deal I got.
Picking it up in the morning and looking forward to the first drive in it. I’ve yet to actually see an Abarth 124 Spider on the road (apart from the ones I have seen at Abarth dealers). It will be interesting to see how many people ask me what make it is with it being such a rare car!
Now that is a deal! I’d happily pay that for one (in fact that’s cheaper than my 595.)

cornishboy1970

37 posts

80 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I recently went to a dealer that had the MX5 and the Abarth 124 and to be honest I would have gone for the Abarth.

The interior of the Mazda was a bit meh! but when you sit in the Abarth then it is a very nice place to be. Given the looks, I would also go with the Abarth as with the black bonnet/white combo it is a good looking car.

As most people say, the price of the 124 is going to put it outside of most peoples budget which is a shame. That said, most dealers seem to have ex demo/pre-reg with around 5k off list which makes it about right.


RichB

51,640 posts

285 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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redroadster said:
Fiat looks fugly compared to Mazda ,pity they did not stick to plan and use it as a base Alfa this would have been far nicer looking from renderings pics I saw .
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Indeed, it could have been a really good looking sports car

ecsrobin

17,146 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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RichB said:
redroadster said:
Fiat looks fugly compared to Mazda ,pity they did not stick to plan and use it as a base Alfa this would have been far nicer looking from renderings pics I saw .
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Indeed, it could have been a really good looking sports car
However you would still have a majority complaining as it would have likely had the same engine and a similar price.

RichB

51,640 posts

285 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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ecsrobin said:
However you would still have a majority complaining as it would have likely had the same engine and a similar price.
Indeed, that needs a nice 2.0 Alfa Romeo, twin overhead cam, twin spark engine!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I think people need to get used to downsized engines, especially with the whole hybrid thing coming along. Dont judge on cc but on results.

Saying that I would pick the ND over the 124 as I seriously dislike the abarth looks.

The key to the mx5 as said above is its fun, its fun without breaking speed limits, its fun even when not thrashing it, its not (in retail guise) a track car or outright performance sportster, 5k to BBR changes that somewhat and still change from the abarth...

BVB

1,104 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Simply put, the Mazda is good for female buyers, the Fiat is for men.