RE: Porsche Cayman S: Spotted
Discussion
Sir_Dave said:
To be honest, i read so many reviews about the terrible demise of the hydraulic rack from the Boxster before i bought my 981 that i was fully expecting the electric rack to be utter s
te. I
I was referring to the non-linearity more than the EPASness (if that's a word te. I
). I think the lack of weight on the nose makes it easier to maintain a respectable amount of feel from the EPAS system (although it is still less feelsome than the 987). It's still a bloody good car, just one with one (for me) unforgivable flaw. Maybe I'd get used to it if I spent more than a few days in one but as it is I think I'd go for a 986 (with a slush fund for an engine rebuild) instead... shame the latest cars have gone turbocharged four-pot.
Edited by kambites on Monday 16th October 17:42
Watching this with interest as I picked up a 63 plate with 7500 miles on it in August. FPSH, warranty until 2019, Sports exhaust, BOSE but no PASM, which I am not sure is desirable. Certainly doesn't make much of a difference to me.
Not the same spec as the one highlighted but I am not keen on the white inserts compared to mine. Time will tell if the last of the 6 Cylinders become desirable.
H.
Not the same spec as the one highlighted but I am not keen on the white inserts compared to mine. Time will tell if the last of the 6 Cylinders become desirable.
H.
This thread is a PH classic.
When 981 was launched PH was full of,
When 981 was launched PH was full of,
- Porsche has ruined the Boxster/Cayman
- Useless gear ratios
- Chocolate engines
- Too plush
- Too wide
- Too heavy
- Not sharp enough
- Poor image
rockin said:
This thread is a PH classic.
When 981 was launched PH was full of,
I like the sound of this. Not done many miles in this car besides the 120 miles back from the dealer and 320 miles to Scotland and back. I am lucky enough to have a Z4M roadster too and that for me is more fun than the Cayman, even though the Cayman is the better car.When 981 was launched PH was full of,
- Porsche has ruined the Boxster/Cayman
- Useless gear ratios
- Chocolate engines
- Too plush
- Too wide
- Too heavy
- Not sharp enough
- Poor image
With the Z4 being a third of the price I find it hard to justify the upgrade to the Porsche. If you want a reliable, manual, RWD, there aren't a lot of options south of £40K.
Time will tell if I keep them both.
H.
rockin said:
This thread is a PH classic.
When 981 was launched PH was full of,
i think those points remain valid. "ruined" is harsh and inflammatory, but the car has developed in to a Sports GT rather than pure sports car. It's an everyday car now rather than an immersive sports car. When 981 was launched PH was full of,
- Porsche has ruined the Boxster/Cayman
- Useless gear ratios
- Chocolate engines
- Too plush
- Too wide
- Too heavy
- Not sharp enough
- Poor image
CABC said:
i think those points remain valid. "ruined" is harsh and inflammatory, but the car has developed in to a Sports GT rather than pure sports car. It's an everyday car now rather than an immersive sports car.
The Cayman was obviously never an out-and-out sports car in the vein of an Elise or Caterham but with each successive generation it's got more touring focused. That doesn't make each successive generation worse, just different than the previous one. I'd still take a 986 over the later cars for a thrash down a B-road. Havard22 said:
Watching this with interest as I picked up a 63 plate with 7500 miles on it in August. FPSH, warranty until 2019, Sports exhaust, BOSE but no PASM, which I am not sure is desirable. Certainly doesn't make much of a difference to me.
Not the same spec as the one highlighted but I am not keen on the white inserts compared to mine. Time will tell if the last of the 6 Cylinders become desirable.
H.
Love this . Can I ask if Pdk or manual and what did you pay ? Am thinking about making a switch out of boxster spyder 987Not the same spec as the one highlighted but I am not keen on the white inserts compared to mine. Time will tell if the last of the 6 Cylinders become desirable.
H.
rockin said:
This thread is a PH classic.
When 981 was launched PH was full of,
Eeeeeeexactly. And so it goes, time and time again.When 981 was launched PH was full of,
- Porsche has ruined the Boxster/Cayman
- Useless gear ratios
- Chocolate engines
- Too plush
- Too wide
- Too heavy
- Not sharp enough
- Poor image
Just as it was recently when the 991.2 was released.
And just as it is now with the 718 CS which replaced the 981 CS. The forums are full of;
- Four cylinder engine, might as well buy a hatchback
- Too torquey
- Too laggy
- Sounds like a Beetle
- Sounds like a diesel
- Sounds like a Subaru
- Sounds like all the above
- Porsche are cheapening the brand
History always repeats.
CABC said:
i think those points remain valid. "ruined" is harsh and inflammatory, but the car has developed in to a Sports GT rather than pure sports car. It's an everyday car now rather than an immersive sports car.
That's true of all of the current Porsche range other than the GT cars IMO.Tim bo said:
Eeeeeeexactly. And so it goes, time and time again.
Just as it was recently when the 991.2 was released.
And just as it is now with the 718 CS which replaced the 981 CS. The forums are full of;
History always repeats.
Yep, 'cos in five years time the new Cayman will be fitted with a lovely 3-cylinder hybridised 1.0 engine with 400BHP and an exhaust which sounds like a honda lawnmower.Just as it was recently when the 991.2 was released.
And just as it is now with the 718 CS which replaced the 981 CS. The forums are full of;
- Four cylinder engine, might as well buy a hatchback
- Too torquey
- Too laggy
- Sounds like a Beetle
- Sounds like a diesel
- Sounds like a Subaru
- Sounds like all the above
- Porsche are cheapening the brand
History always repeats.
kambites said:
The Cayman was obviously never an out-and-out sports car in the vein of an Elise or Caterham but with each successive generation it's got more touring focused. Scottie - NW said:
anonymous said:
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Correct cmoose, I have never seen choc engines mentioned in relation to either 981 or 987.2Back around launch of 981 PH was filled with horror stories about Porsche engines and cmoose was one of the proponents, having blown up his own car IIRC. Example from 2012,
anonymous said:
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Even today many owners pay through the nose for extended warranty based upon unjustified engine fears.Fortunately the scare stories proved unfounded and 981 has a solid reputation.
FocusRS3 said:
Love this . Can I ask if Pdk or manual and what did you pay ? Am thinking about making a switch out of boxster spyder 987
It's a manual. Finding a 3.4, 981 Cayman with a 6 speed is not easy unless you go for a GTS.I can't say how much I paid, how much do you think it's worth....lol.
H.
Havard22 said:
It's a manual. Finding a 3.4, 981 Cayman with a 6 speed is not easy unless you go for a GTS.
I can't say how much I paid, how much do you think it's worth....lol.
H.
I'm no expert so can only go by the one that's in the classifieds currently with pccb offered at 47.5k I can't say how much I paid, how much do you think it's worth....lol.
H.
Guess your car has even fewer miles though .personally I'm leaning more towards Pdk these days but that's me
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