Should we be getting behind Brexit by boycotting German cars

Should we be getting behind Brexit by boycotting German cars

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996TT02

3,308 posts

140 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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jsf said:
Here we are still trying to quantify last years referendum.

The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............

That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.

Can we please move the debate on?
Typical. The effects of Brexit have not really started and the best way to deal with an inconvenient truth that it is slowly sinking in, that it is the stupidest thing since Boris, that most Leavers were taken for a ride but can't admit it, is to "move the debate on".

Unfortunately moving the debate on or otherwise, will do f-a to the fact that everyone in the UK is going to suffer in due course. Leavers particularly, because the areas with a majority of Leavers are those that have the greatest dependency on the benefits of the EU.

But, Daily Mail.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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jsf said:
What's more interesting, endlessly going over a referendum that happened over a year ago and has been debated into the ground, or discussing what the future may bring and the politics of how it is being shaped?
The people least interested in continuing the discussion over the referendum tend also to be those who least want to hear the most likely outcomes of it.

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
jsf said:
What's more interesting, endlessly going over a referendum that happened over a year ago and has been debated into the ground, or discussing what the future may bring and the politics of how it is being shaped?
The people least interested in continuing the discussion over the referendum tend also to be those who least want to hear the most likely outcomes of it.
The ones forcasting doom and gloom are the ones most likely to want it to happen and work for it to happen so they can be proved right.



hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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I like the graphs trying to prove one sides statistically more inteligenterer than the other. I'm sure primary school kids everywhere consider them a very impressive addition to an arguement.

Back on point...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
jsf said:
What's more interesting, endlessly going over a referendum that happened over a year ago and has been debated into the ground, or discussing what the future may bring and the politics of how it is being shaped?
The people least interested in continuing the discussion over the referendum tend also to be those who least want to hear the most likely outcomes of it.
We have had over a year of naval gazing, it's not going to change the result.

The most likely outcome is what we should be discussing, that changes as events develop. You have already decided that its going to be a disaster, so who is it that doesn't want to hear the potential outcomes with an open mind?

smifffymoto

4,560 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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996TT02 said:
jsf said:
Here we are still trying to quantify last years referendum.

The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............

That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.

Can we please move the debate on?
Typical. The effects of Brexit have not really started and the best way to deal with an inconvenient truth that it is slowly sinking in, that it is the stupidest thing since Boris, that most Leavers were taken for a ride but can't admit it, is to "move the debate on".

Unfortunately moving the debate on or otherwise, will do f-a to the fact that everyone in the UK is going to suffer in due course. Leavers particularly, because the areas with a majority of Leavers are those that have the greatest dependency on the benefits of the EU.

But, Daily Mail.
The trouble with stateing doom and gloom is, that you also have no idea how much you will benefit or suffer from continued EU membership.
If you do however know,please tell everybody because it would cut down on the endless brexit bickering.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Toltec said:
The ones forcasting doom and gloom are the ones most likely to want it to happen and work for it to happen so they can be proved right.
I forecast - well, not quite doom and gloom, but certainly not exactly sun-dappled upland. Do I want us to leave? No. Why? Because I actively DON'T want to be proved right.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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London424 said:
nickfrog said:
fido said:
TooMany2cvs said:
I know somebody who had no real opinion either way, but voted Leave because "I like Boris, he makes me laugh"...
And I'm sure you'll find plenty of folks who voted Remain because the orange lady 'expert' from the IMF told them it would be 'very very bad' if they didn't.
And she is being proven right. It didn't take a genius mind you.
Really? Those pre-brexit vote forecasts were being re-forecast within a few months.

Just thought I'd add an article...https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/13/imf-warns-stock-market-crash-house-price-fall-eu-referendum-brexit

Anyone experienced a stock market crash yet?

Edited by London424 on Thursday 19th October 15:55
So far, there are two indisputable, hard facts.

The known knowns.

1. Remainers lost.
2. Project Fear predictions of economic recession right after the vote did not happen.

The scores on the board right now are:

Leavers 2
Remainers 0

kambites

67,576 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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I think there's a third indisputable fact - the government weren't expecting the result and haven't a clue what to do next. hehe

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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kambites said:
I think there's a third indisputable fact - the government weren't expecting the result and haven't a clue what to do next. hehe
Unfortunately, neither do those who were campaigning for leave, and are now in charge of delivering it.

Hungrymc

6,665 posts

137 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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kambites said:
I think there's a third indisputable fact - the government weren't expecting the result and haven't a clue what to do next. hehe
You could add a fourth...... That the leaders of the Brexit campaign didn’t expect the result and promptly shat themselves, stabbed each other in the back, and ran for the hills.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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This thread gone off topic.

I take the view I will buy whatever car I want if I can afford it be it a car or anything else.

The OP's idea of people making a consistent choice when buying a car that might have political influence has a similar chance of success as herding cats.

Register1

2,142 posts

94 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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LuS1fer said:
Have to say that German cars have never appealed to me.
I've had a few but I was never a fanboy.
It strikes me that if everybody suddenly cancelled their German car orders, Europe might suddenly start to wonder who will buy them.

OK, you might not like the other options but....
Japanese all the way.

Overall, much better than anything out of Germany

For me, it has to be Toyota, or a Lexus, which we all know is a Toyota.

captain_cynic

12,010 posts

95 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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996TT02 said:
jsf said:
Here we are still trying to quantify last years referendum.

The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............

That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.

Can we please move the debate on?
Typical. The effects of Brexit have not really started and the best way to deal with an inconvenient truth that it is slowly sinking in, that it is the stupidest thing since Boris, that most Leavers were taken for a ride but can't admit it, is to "move the debate on".
We've already begun to feel the effects of Brexit, the crash in the pound that has shown no sign of recovery in the last year has made buying things more expensive. I surely cant be the only one to notice that my weekly grocery bill has increased with little change in what I've been buying (if anything is should have gone down as I'm buying more in bulk).

We've been cushioned somewhat from the effect of a weakening currency because of the low oil price, but that's also changing and a higher oil price will make things worse. The fact the US dollar is also falling helps make things look better, but consider that we've lost over 25 Euro cents on the pound since Oct 2015 and that shows no signs of recovery

And nothings even happened yet, things are bad on the mere notion of Brexit and the worst is yet to come.

Also those crowing about the referendum being over, you're only saying that because you know you wont win the next one... and there will be another because no politician has the balls to destroy the economy of their own volition.

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Register1 said:
LuS1fer said:
Have to say that German cars have never appealed to me.
I've had a few but I was never a fanboy.
It strikes me that if everybody suddenly cancelled their German car orders, Europe might suddenly start to wonder who will buy them.

OK, you might not like the other options but....
Japanese all the way.

Overall, much better than anything out of Germany

For me, it has to be Toyota, or a Lexus, which we all know is a Toyota.
Unless, like most people who love driving, you want a practical rear drive saloon with a manual gearbox. All Japan can offer right now is the GT86 with no roof bars, carrying capacity or tow bar; or the IS200, which now only comes with a slush box. Until I can afford that new Toyota van and a GT86 it'll have to be a BMW. I think people put far too much emphasis on where a car comes from - they're machines at the end of the day, with designers and engineers from all over the world and you just need to buy what's right for you, which means working out what you want from your car first and then finding what cars suit you.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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And behold the total meltdown of uk society, us society,Spanish society, etc etc and the Chinese get a clean sweep through, personally I’d rather be broke and homeless than be run by the eu. but it’s all smoke and mirrors the lot of it because within 5 to ten years we will all be bashed back to the stoneage
The west has become so complacent it’s demise is just around the corner, can you hear the echo’y footsteps and the jailers keys approaching, and brexit will have nothing whatsoever to do with it !

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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loose cannon said:
And behold the total meltdown of uk society, us society,Spanish society, etc etc and the Chinese get a clean sweep through, personally I’d rather be broke and homeless than be run by the eu. but it’s all smoke and mirrors the lot of it because within 5 to ten years we will all be bashed back to the stoneage
Broke and homeless, you might get that.

loose cannon said:
The west has become so complacent it’s demise is just around the corner, can you hear the echo’y footsteps and the jailers keys approaching, and brexit will have nothing whatsoever to do with it !
You must get all the talent at parties.

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

85 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Sorry, haven't read the thread, but has anyone posted a screenshot of or a link to that cringeworthy and cheesy 80s Metro advert?

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

85 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Here:

Ended well, too...

Then again...

lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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AppleJuice said:
Here:

Ended well, too...

Then again...
But then again



The Metro was in production for just 2 years beyond the MK2 Golf and was in a different segment.