Should we be getting behind Brexit by boycotting German cars
Discussion
jsf said:
Here we are still trying to quantify last years referendum.
The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............
That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.
Can we please move the debate on?
Typical. The effects of Brexit have not really started and the best way to deal with an inconvenient truth that it is slowly sinking in, that it is the stupidest thing since Boris, that most Leavers were taken for a ride but can't admit it, is to "move the debate on".The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............
That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.
Can we please move the debate on?
Unfortunately moving the debate on or otherwise, will do f-a to the fact that everyone in the UK is going to suffer in due course. Leavers particularly, because the areas with a majority of Leavers are those that have the greatest dependency on the benefits of the EU.
But, Daily Mail.
jsf said:
What's more interesting, endlessly going over a referendum that happened over a year ago and has been debated into the ground, or discussing what the future may bring and the politics of how it is being shaped?
The people least interested in continuing the discussion over the referendum tend also to be those who least want to hear the most likely outcomes of it.TooMany2cvs said:
jsf said:
What's more interesting, endlessly going over a referendum that happened over a year ago and has been debated into the ground, or discussing what the future may bring and the politics of how it is being shaped?
The people least interested in continuing the discussion over the referendum tend also to be those who least want to hear the most likely outcomes of it.TooMany2cvs said:
jsf said:
What's more interesting, endlessly going over a referendum that happened over a year ago and has been debated into the ground, or discussing what the future may bring and the politics of how it is being shaped?
The people least interested in continuing the discussion over the referendum tend also to be those who least want to hear the most likely outcomes of it.The most likely outcome is what we should be discussing, that changes as events develop. You have already decided that its going to be a disaster, so who is it that doesn't want to hear the potential outcomes with an open mind?
996TT02 said:
jsf said:
Here we are still trying to quantify last years referendum.
The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............
That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.
Can we please move the debate on?
Typical. The effects of Brexit have not really started and the best way to deal with an inconvenient truth that it is slowly sinking in, that it is the stupidest thing since Boris, that most Leavers were taken for a ride but can't admit it, is to "move the debate on".The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............
That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.
Can we please move the debate on?
Unfortunately moving the debate on or otherwise, will do f-a to the fact that everyone in the UK is going to suffer in due course. Leavers particularly, because the areas with a majority of Leavers are those that have the greatest dependency on the benefits of the EU.
But, Daily Mail.
If you do however know,please tell everybody because it would cut down on the endless brexit bickering.
Toltec said:
The ones forcasting doom and gloom are the ones most likely to want it to happen and work for it to happen so they can be proved right.
I forecast - well, not quite doom and gloom, but certainly not exactly sun-dappled upland. Do I want us to leave? No. Why? Because I actively DON'T want to be proved right.London424 said:
nickfrog said:
fido said:
TooMany2cvs said:
I know somebody who had no real opinion either way, but voted Leave because "I like Boris, he makes me laugh"...
And I'm sure you'll find plenty of folks who voted Remain because the orange lady 'expert' from the IMF told them it would be 'very very bad' if they didn't.Just thought I'd add an article...https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/13/imf-warns-stock-market-crash-house-price-fall-eu-referendum-brexit
Anyone experienced a stock market crash yet?
Edited by London424 on Thursday 19th October 15:55
The known knowns.
1. Remainers lost.
2. Project Fear predictions of economic recession right after the vote did not happen.
The scores on the board right now are:
Leavers 2
Remainers 0
kambites said:
I think there's a third indisputable fact - the government weren't expecting the result and haven't a clue what to do next.
You could add a fourth...... That the leaders of the Brexit campaign didn’t expect the result and promptly shat themselves, stabbed each other in the back, and ran for the hills.LuS1fer said:
Have to say that German cars have never appealed to me.
I've had a few but I was never a fanboy.
It strikes me that if everybody suddenly cancelled their German car orders, Europe might suddenly start to wonder who will buy them.
OK, you might not like the other options but....
Japanese all the way.I've had a few but I was never a fanboy.
It strikes me that if everybody suddenly cancelled their German car orders, Europe might suddenly start to wonder who will buy them.
OK, you might not like the other options but....
Overall, much better than anything out of Germany
For me, it has to be Toyota, or a Lexus, which we all know is a Toyota.
996TT02 said:
jsf said:
Here we are still trying to quantify last years referendum.
The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............
That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.
Can we please move the debate on?
Typical. The effects of Brexit have not really started and the best way to deal with an inconvenient truth that it is slowly sinking in, that it is the stupidest thing since Boris, that most Leavers were taken for a ride but can't admit it, is to "move the debate on".The same old tired arguments about people not knowing what they were voting on, that leave voters didn't know their arse from their elbow, that the only progressive way forward for the world was more EU.............
That vote is done, we are leaving the EU in March 2019, it would be far more constructive to talk about what the future brings and how to read the politics of the now than continuously tell everyone your view on a vote that is history.
Can we please move the debate on?
We've been cushioned somewhat from the effect of a weakening currency because of the low oil price, but that's also changing and a higher oil price will make things worse. The fact the US dollar is also falling helps make things look better, but consider that we've lost over 25 Euro cents on the pound since Oct 2015 and that shows no signs of recovery
And nothings even happened yet, things are bad on the mere notion of Brexit and the worst is yet to come.
Also those crowing about the referendum being over, you're only saying that because you know you wont win the next one... and there will be another because no politician has the balls to destroy the economy of their own volition.
Register1 said:
LuS1fer said:
Have to say that German cars have never appealed to me.
I've had a few but I was never a fanboy.
It strikes me that if everybody suddenly cancelled their German car orders, Europe might suddenly start to wonder who will buy them.
OK, you might not like the other options but....
Japanese all the way.I've had a few but I was never a fanboy.
It strikes me that if everybody suddenly cancelled their German car orders, Europe might suddenly start to wonder who will buy them.
OK, you might not like the other options but....
Overall, much better than anything out of Germany
For me, it has to be Toyota, or a Lexus, which we all know is a Toyota.
And behold the total meltdown of uk society, us society,Spanish society, etc etc and the Chinese get a clean sweep through, personally I’d rather be broke and homeless than be run by the eu. but it’s all smoke and mirrors the lot of it because within 5 to ten years we will all be bashed back to the stoneage
The west has become so complacent it’s demise is just around the corner, can you hear the echo’y footsteps and the jailers keys approaching, and brexit will have nothing whatsoever to do with it !
The west has become so complacent it’s demise is just around the corner, can you hear the echo’y footsteps and the jailers keys approaching, and brexit will have nothing whatsoever to do with it !
loose cannon said:
And behold the total meltdown of uk society, us society,Spanish society, etc etc and the Chinese get a clean sweep through, personally I’d rather be broke and homeless than be run by the eu. but it’s all smoke and mirrors the lot of it because within 5 to ten years we will all be bashed back to the stoneage
Broke and homeless, you might get that.loose cannon said:
The west has become so complacent it’s demise is just around the corner, can you hear the echo’y footsteps and the jailers keys approaching, and brexit will have nothing whatsoever to do with it !
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